Comparing Batman Vs. Bane fight from movie to comic

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  1. Slushy Registered

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    Its really interesting when you look at the two.

    In the movie,
    A physically deteriorated Batman whose been out of action for almost a decade gets his ass kicked by Bane, who cheats by using a pain neutralizing device, in his sewers lair. I prefer this version as it was as close to a straight up loss as you can get.
    Plus it made Bane a likeable villain by being such a badass.

    In the comics, a dead tired Batman, who spent the night rounding up a bunch of escaped criminals, is confronted by Bane at the Wayne mansion. Like a lion pouncing upon a helpless gazelle, Bane defeats Batman in easy fasion, but what made it even worse was that he threw many insults as well as b*tchslapped his opponent before crippling him. From a villain's standpoint, it was a brilliant move. From the other side, Bane was the ultimate coward. I think the comic book did everything it could to make you hate Bane. At least tried to.

    Which version do you guys prefer and why?
     
  2. brett66 user title

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    Comics. Yeah he lets the rogues gallery do most of the work, but it was cold and calculated, like running up the score. A cage match with an already crippled Batman didn't interest me.
     
  3. ShaneHelms CS Model 101

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    Batman might as well have been crippled in the comics when they fought. He was already on the road to being worn down before Bane destroyed Arkham and freed all the inmates. It was a clever approach to show Bane as a smart and very strategic villain by wearing him down and observing him before confronting and breaking him. At the same time i always thought it was a cheap shot from Bane considering he sees himself superior over Batman. I understand the urge to observe him, but why wear him down so much when he already felt he would not be a problem to defeat. Anyhow i honestly prefer the movie fight considering Batman put up a little more of a fight in the film even though it made no difference. I really wish though they had used the dialogue of how Bane discovered Batman's identity when he confronts him at Wayne Manor and Bruce asking him how he knew with Bane replying "You could be no one else". But i suppose it was a known fact to Bane since they were both trained by Ra's and he was working with/for Talia to carry out Ra's plan to destroy Gotham and seek revenge on Bruce.
     
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  4. Brother Jack The Third Revelation

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    There's a good chance that he didn't discover it himself but was told by Ra's or Talia.
     
  5. BH/HHH You Are My World

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    Ahh but I liked that in the comic it showed Bane was smart, he actually beats him with wits then he just finishes him off very clever
     
  6. ShaneHelms CS Model 101

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    Yes. I edited my post with that conclusion. It's just simple math really once Miranda's true identity is revealed. Still would have been a nice nod to the comic readers. But then again we did get to hear Bane tell Batman that he will break him which was a nice touch for fans of the comics and the Knightfall story.
     
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    I prefer the comic. Bane didn't just want to beat Batman. He wanted to humiliate and destroy him. So he just walked in to his house. Taunted him about his not so secret alter ego. He let Bruce come at him, he let himself get attacked in Bruce's personal fortress, and there was nothing Bruce could do to stop him. He took away all of Bruce's fight and hope. Bruce knew there was nothing he could do, he essentially made Batman roll over and die in his own home.

    But instead he literally broke him in half.

    It was chilling when I first read that as a child.
     
  8. ShaneHelms CS Model 101

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    I felt the movie's way of Bane humiliating Batman was showing him that he was going to take his armory for his plan to destroy Gotham and then telling him that he would break him and then doing so. All in all i felt it was a great adaption of the fight between them from the comics. I just prefer the movie version.
     
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    I don't prefer either one of them over the over. I like them both equally.

    I prefer the setting of Knightfall though. A lot more resonance with what's going on then being in a sewer.
     
  10. Elevator Man Registered

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    Easily the comics. It was one word 'BRUTAL".That particular issue (and the one following it) haunted me as a child for a long time. I remember first reading it in a store on a comic shelf back when it first came out looking at the cover thinking "they're finally going to fight ". Though I didn't believe batman would lose despite the cover. I still believed Batman had a shot b/c it was batman. That fight took me by surprise. That was literally a comic I couldn't put down especially a few days after reading it that time. I almost believed Batman died at the end until the next issue. And that comic also traumatized me in a way. Seeing a defeated and helpless Batman getting thrown off a building by Bane in front some of the citizens of Gotham was just shocking. After he beat Batman down to a bloody pulp all over his own home and secret lair Bane decides to throw him off of a building into a street full of citizens ( the citizens reaction was spot on b/c I was in shock with 'em after reading that). Letting them know he has defeated their protector. That stayed with me for many years. At the time I really believed Bruce was never going to walk or be Batman again. That's how much impact those two comics had on me.

    TDKR was kind of a letdown by comparison. Sure it works for the Nolanverse. It's probably the best fight scene in the Nolan trilogy, but it lacked the same impact the comic had on me. Plus with the way the previews covered it up. I was hoping the fight would be more brutal. It wasn't even close. I'll admit I was taken by surprise
    when Bane broke Batman b/c I didn't think or believe Nolan would fall through with it. I was honestly expecting him to find another way to break Batman. But again the back break itself ,imo, lacked the same impact the comics had. Something felt off about it. And technically his back wasn't actually broken but his vertebrate was pushed out or something. In the comic the splash page drawing really captured the pain and torture Batman felt with Bane breaking his back and refusing to scream Bane's name to him. Everytime I see that I can imagine how much pain and suffering Batman was felt to the point I start grinding my teeth.
    It would've been nice in the film if Bane had hit it home to Gotham, when he made his speech by Blackgate Prison, that Batman was dead or broken. It would've been interesting seeing Batman's battle damaged costume hanging over a building or street light or on one of Bane's tanks. Or just have Bane holding that half of Batman's cowl and showing Gotham that he's defeated and has broken their protector. Therefore can no longer save Gotham. It would've been interesting to have seen Gotham's reaction to Batman being defeated and presumed dead. Another missed opportunity.
    I almost expected Bane to show up in the batcave in TDKR with Alfred waiting as an unmasked Bruce returned from his first night back in crimefighting. Nice tease to fans.

    So yeah the comics all the way.
     
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  11. Baneis8feettall Half face half amazing

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    Movie fight (and dialogs) were upgraded version of comics. It's quite similar.
     
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    I usually tend to go with the comics, but one thing I preferred in TDKR was that Batman actually put up a fight against Bane during there first encounter. In TDKR, Batman had Bane mounted for a few seconds at least. In Knightfall, Batman had literally nothing for Bane.

    Another thing I give TDKR props for is showing Bruce's arrogance. He never underestimated Bane, but overestimated his own abilities, knowing his body wasn't what it once was and that mentally he was still coming out of the fog of his forced exile.

    After Bruce had a very successful return as Batman - evading the cops like times of old, helping Catwoman whoop some mercenary ass, he truly thought he could handle Bane despite Alfred's warnings that he still might have ties with the LOS. Now in the comics, Bruce just focuses on the main threats that Bane released from Arkham. He put Bane on the back burner, despite the warnings from Tim. Bruce didn't even want Tim's help at first, telling him to stay in the batmobile when he initially goes after the Mad Hatter. Very nice parallels from the comics to the film.

    IMO, Nolan nailed the psychical and mental deterioration from Knightfall to a T.
     
  14. Polaris23 Registered

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    It aches me to see Batman get beaten up so badly in both, I can't decide.
     
  15. The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    I love both. But two things the comic's has over TDKR's is Bane figured out Bruce's identity for himself rather have the second hand info passed onto him by the LOS.

    The other is what he did was to humiliate Batman and prove he was better than him. He was trying to prove he was the better man and he could beat Batman and take his city from him. In TDKR Bane was just fulfilling the work of a man who hated him and excommunicated him.
     
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  16. Mace Dolex Powerful User

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    I totally didn't think about that one it could've been awesome seeing Bane on live television holding the broken cowl.
     
  17. Zatanna Mistress of Magic

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    Comic. Although this scene was one of my favs in the whole film and had me on the edge of my seat. But it doesn't beat the comic. The comic destroyed me. Disturbing beyond belief- back then it was anyway to a kid.
     
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  18. Zatanna Mistress of Magic

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    Chilling. Yes.
     
  19. Elevator Man Registered

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    Yeah. I think that would've been more powerful. Another interesting idea would've been if Bane had one of his thugs record the fight between him and Batman on a camcorder. As well as Bane breaking him. Then Bane reveals the video to the public after reading Gordon's speech.
     
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    The comic beatdown while great and terrible was still surrounded by a storyline that wasn't all that well executed (knightfall itself was redundant not banes plan).

    The movie version of the beatdown felt more inpactful because Bruce was trained by the league and here was Bane acting as an "agent" of the league taking everything Bruce had used to succeed as batman and showing it to be utterly useless against him.

    for the record knightfall part 11 was a foregone conclusion so the results never really impact me until i got to issue 12..
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    Still disturbing to look at to this day. Nothing Bane did to Batman in TDKR came close to the impact this had on me as a kid.
     
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    Comic version was way better because comic Bane is not the lapdog of a dead man and the dead man's daughter. Comic Bane's plan made sense, too.
     
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    Movie version is way way better. Bane's lines in the confrontation are absolutely legendary. And the editing of the whole scene is brilliant (especially the sound design).
     
  24. BatLobster Trailer Timewarper

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    I thought the part where Bane repeatedly punches Batman until his mask breaks was pretty shocking and brutal. It was certainly the most intense beatdown Batman's ever received on screen, and it certainly owes a lot to the comics for that.

    In addition to the raw brutality and stark presentation, I think the dialogue in the movie version is what really puts it over the top for me. And Bane's LOS backstory actually enhances that, as it led to instant classics like, "Ah, you think darkness is your ally..." and "And we are initiated, aren't we Bruce? Members of the LEAGUEOFSHADOWS!"

    The feeling of dread that was already in the scene felt even more enhanced by the fact that the past had come back to haunt him. After all these years, Bruce was about to now about to pay dearly for all the harm he caused that organization.
     
  25. The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    Now is this footage without audio, or are you saying you want all of Gotham to know Bruce Wayne is Batman?
     

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