Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood

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Okay so the below review sounds kinda negative, but really I should mention that any opportunity to see Connor strike out on his own and be in the spotlight again fills my insides with a distinct gooey warmth. So for all my btchin', I do plan on enjoying the hell out of this miniseries.

With that said, thoughts from B/T thread...

Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood #1
The really good thing about having a character's longtime writer come back to write the character again is that there's no question that the character will be treated with respect, will be very well understood, and well be portrayed as the fans like him/her to be portrayed. This was the case when Ron Marz returned to handle Kyle Rayner recently. The bad thing about having a character's longtime writer come back to write the character again is that, very often, events and progressions which happened after said writer stopped writing the character will be forgotten, ignored, or mishandled. That's unfortunately the case in this instance as Chuck Dixon comes back to write Connor Hawke.

Connor's back at the monastery where he grew up and hanging out with Eddie Feyers, which at once seems a bit odd considering what he's been doing for the last few years. It's not out of character for Connor to return to the monastery for solace or reassociate with Eddie of course; it's the motivation that seems odd, the motivation being that he's feeling adrift and conflicted towards Ollie. But the idea of Connor still having a lot of unresolved father issues regarding Ollie just rings hollow right now. Sorry, but it does. I realize that it was a significant plot point throughout Dixon's run, but that was when he thought his father was blowed up good and he would never have a chance to properly resolve those unresolved issues. Since Ollie's return, writers like Smith, Winick, and Meltzer had done incredible things in reference to those very issues, and while Connor may not have been on the shiniest of terms with his father the last we've seen him, I think it's fair to say that he's long since moved past the point where he'd have scary dreams with his dad shooting him with arrows and calling him second best. And I can't, in all honesty, drum up that much enthusiasm for a miniseries that's likely going to be filled with those ideas. It made sense when Ollie was dead. But nowadays when Ollie's just a phone call away and more than capable of (if not actually willing to) hearing his son blab about his issues, it just rings hollow.

With that particular tidbit out of the way, how does the rest of the issue stand up? Well, it stands up mostly as an introductory issue, which means that we got a lot of exposition and set-up, which means not a lot actually happens and a lot of characters are introduced that we don't really care about yet. Which is just fine; this is just the intro, and it does its job well. I'm looking forward to this archery competition and all of the wackiness that's bound to ensue.

And the ending of the issue was a real treat; Shado's back, and of course everyone knows that Shado's the mother of Ollie's other illegitimate child, which promises a lot of fun angst very very soon. For all my rantings about Connor's father issues, Ollie's infidelity and basic ****in' ways is one of those issues that actually makes sense for Connor to still be hung up about, given that it obviously influenced him directly and is one of the few things we've seen to actually get him full-on pissed.

And hey, props to the artist for actually remembering for once that Connor is mixed.

So I give this issue a...

(6.8 out of 10)

...with the acknowledgment that it might, and probably will, get significantly better.
 
Thanks for the review Brian. Was going to pick this up anyway.
 
I didn't find his circumstance that jarring. I think it would only be natural to feel a little bit pointless if your father was Oliver Quinn and you aren't. Ollie comes back, Connor isn't invited to any JLA parties anymore (and even Arsenal is invited), his best friend in the community (Kyle) hasn't been around anymore and now he isn't even the Green Arrow - he is the other one and it's not like since Archers Quest he has had any decent characterization. I could see Connor seeing himself as getting a bit stagnant in Star City.

I can imagine in that situation you'd head back to where you came from and try and get some perspective and take the opportunity to outshine your father in the process.

But anyway, I enjoy Chuck Dixon coming back to the title (one that I just realized he didn't create but he certainly made his own) and filling it already with familiar characters. Eddie Fryers was always back up for Connor, no explanation to where he has been though. Bamboo Monkey if anyone remembers was from the Brotherhood of the Fist storyline, Bamboo beat the crap out of Robin and Nightwing before Connor came in and beat him. Also Shado from Mike Grell's Longbow Hunters and we wait for Robert (Ollie's other illegitimate son) to play a part in the story.

Anyway with Winnick writing something I have no wish to read in Green Arrow this is a perfect substitute for some action.
 
Yeah when people call Ollie a ****e, it's actually not in jest.

yenaled said:
I didn't find his circumstance that jarring. I think it would only be natural to feel a little bit pointless if your father was Oliver Quinn and you aren't. Ollie comes back, Connor isn't invited to any JLA parties anymore (and even Arsenal is invited), his best friend in the community (Kyle) hasn't been around anymore and now he isn't even the Green Arrow - he is the other one and it's not like since Archers Quest he has had any decent characterization. I could see Connor seeing himself as getting a bit stagnant in Star City.
Yeah but Connor himself quit the JLA. And Kyle is around, it's not like neither of them knows how to operate a phone.

I just think that there's only so far you can take the "My father is Ollie Queen and it makes me emo" angle when it's been taken so far already. That's Connor running around in circles and being stagnant, and it's no one's fault but his own. And I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the rest of this series is going to be all about. Maybe I'm wrong though. And it probably won't be that bad; the worst that can happen is that he'll just finally get over it by the end of this:O.
 
You are right actually, I suppose sometimes you might want to reaffirm something but every character has to move away from the eternal man-child and stop being the rookie (for instance Kyle finally did) and I do hope the title moves away from just being about Connor's father issues. You said it right in your first post; sometimes creators will return to a status quo set in their run like in Chuck's eyes Connor hasn't got over his father but maybe in Winick's eyes he has. Difficult thing to balance sometimes (which is why I really respected Ron Marz's Ion run because he used Nero who he didn't create - I do slate Winick a lot but I did love his Green Lantern run before the Black Circle got involved).
 
I know nothing about Connor but hearing everybody praise his martial arts prowess makes me wanna pick this book up.
 
Copied and pasted...

Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood #2
As I'd expected, I liked this issue more than the last.
There is a part of me that wonders at the logic of someone inviting Connor Hawke, public identity of Green Arrow II, into an contest of the world's best archers while completely forgetting that there was also a Green Arrow I. I mean honestly, how likely is that?

But anyway, a solid issue. By now, the main plots of the story are laid out pretty clearly...first there's Shado and the baggage that she's carrying with her, specifically concerning Ollie. Ollie's illegitimate child with Shado is something that is kinda long overdue for a reexamination, especially as it pertains to Connor. I mean, it had to happen at some point; honestly, better here in his own miniseries than cluttering up the pages of GA. (not that I really trust Winick to be able to handle something "sensitive" like this with a lot of grace, anyway. Don't get me wrong; Winick has written some of the most emotionally rivetting and powerful stuff I've ever read. But letting him on a story like this would kinda be the equivalent of a bull loose in a china shop; the man doesn't really get the whole "less is more" aspect of writing. For him, more is always more.)

Anyway, I'm just glad that Dixon is handling this, 'cause he's shown a great deal of understanding of this subject matter in the past, both with his work on Connor and on Dinah over in Birds of Prey.

The other part of the story, the whole archery competition thingy, isn't quite as interesting maybe but it's still pretty interestingly set up. Looking forward to this whole World Dragon business, how it relates to Connor, and how Connor will eventually kick its ass.

Speaking of which, hello to Connor being badass by catching an arrow out of mid-air. More of that, please.

(8.2 out of 10)
 
i havnet read the second issue (i still read spoilers:P) but i noticed that ALOT of people are missing..

Ollie, Arsenal, Merlyn and hey even Arrowette!
Then again.. if Copnner saw Merlyn there he might have killd him :P
but i must say i cant wait to see Conner and Shado when Conner finds out about Robert :P
 
Ugh, okay, vent time.

I know that Connor hasn't been drawn ethnic-looking for a long time, and I basically blame Phil Hester for that...but I'm so sick to death of people reading this series and all of sudden saying "Wait, Connor's Asian?" I've been lurking on some other boards and there's always someone, at least one person, who's completely shocked that the boy's got some melanin in him.

Christ, people, it's called wikipedia. It's not an artist's fault if you've known about a character for umpteen years now and never got around to even browsing his backstory. It'd be like if I read Teen Titans for years and years and all of a sudden was like, "Wait, Donna Troy was Wonder Girl?"

GRRRRR. People are stupid.

Okay, done now.

:D
 
if i remember correctly connor issent asian.. he's half of european desent and half "blackasian" ... so he is only one quarter asian..

this story might not be about Robert (his half brother) but about the fact that ollie was there when he was born.. i think they have shado there to throw us off .. or maybe connor finds out about everything..
 
BrianWilly said:
Ugh, okay, vent time.

I know that Connor hasn't been drawn ethnic-looking for a long time, and I basically blame Phil Hester for that...but I'm so sick to death of people reading this series and all of sudden saying "Wait, Connor's Asian?" I've been lurking on some other boards and there's always someone, at least one person, who's completely shocked that the boy's got some melanin in him.

Christ, people, it's called wikipedia. It's not an artist's fault if you've known about a character for umpteen years now and never got around to even browsing his backstory. It'd be like if I read Teen Titans for years and years and all of a sudden was like, "Wait, Donna Troy was Wonder Girl?"

GRRRRR. People are stupid.

Okay, done now.

:D


I found myself questioning his ethnicity many times while reading this book. I'm new to the character so I was surprised to see such a colorful list of ethnicities on his wikipedia article.
 
The Leaguer said:
Dixon is a prince.
Do you mean he's inbred and has big ears, or that he's a musician who changed his name to a symbol? :)
 
BrianWilly said:
Ugh, okay, vent time.

I know that Connor hasn't been drawn ethnic-looking for a long time, and I basically blame Phil Hester for that...but I'm so sick to death of people reading this series and all of sudden saying "Wait, Connor's Asian?" I've been lurking on some other boards and there's always someone, at least one person, who's completely shocked that the boy's got some melanin in him.

Christ, people, it's called wikipedia. It's not an artist's fault if you've known about a character for umpteen years now and never got around to even browsing his backstory. It'd be like if I read Teen Titans for years and years and all of a sudden was like, "Wait, Donna Troy was Wonder Girl?"

GRRRRR. People are stupid.

Okay, done now.

:D


Yeah, I blame Winnick for that too. Because I can.
 
Keep him away from the gays though.
 
This issue was badass.

I feel sorry for people who didn't read it.
 
i concur... he caught a freakin arrow and threw it back at the shooter... they could have just illustrated that at various angles over and over for 23 pages and i still would have loved this issue..
 
I'm liking this series a lot so far. Connor needs some good development. I'm glad Dc is making good use of the Shado character as well. When she first appeared in GA she had badass potential written all over her but when Grell left the series it was practically like she got sucked into the phantom zone and disappeared. I think this series can do a lot of good for both characters.
 
i totaly forgot about commenting .. but anyway

It clear that connor knew about shado and ollie but we have to wait untill next month to se if he knows about there son..
if he dossent then she droped a huge bomb in the last frame :P
and i kindfa lik how they show his asian side more oen more .. in some frames he is asian.. in others not so mutch

and it just seems to me that connor might truly be gay.. he totaly blows off that redhead.. if not gay then just weird :P
 
connor is more goal oriented than his pops... he grew up in an ashram so he has the utmost discipline... dur
 
that still dossent explain why he was a dick to that chick..
the best part of #2 was that whole dinosaur thing :P

Libby: You have grate form. Ever hunt big game?
Connor: Do dinosaurs count?
Libby: That's a joke, right?
Connor: No

that was funny
 
i dont think he meant to be a dick... just matter of fact... though he may have come off like a dick
 
The likelihood of Chuck Dixon ever writing Connor as gay pretty much resembles the likelihood of Mark Millar ever writing a relatable republican, which all in all resembles the likelihood of Frank Miller ever writing a woman who's not a ****e, which basically resembles the likelihood of Joss Whedon ever writing anything bad.

Which is not high, incidentally.
 

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