Constantine Season 1, Episode 4 "A Feast of Friends" General Discussion

[famicommander]

Stop trolling man this is a small board with a few hardcore fans and few newbies. We really don't need this crap.

You keep saying the same things over and over. If it does get cancelled we'd have slot a good show and fans like me who have wanted to see a good portrayal of Constantine to wipe the Keanu Reeves film from our minds.

Grow up and accept the fact that sometimes, people on the internet say things you don't like.

 

[antonydelfini]

Gary Lester was more sympathetic in the show than the comic.

Good to see that ruthless Constantine side who will sacrifice a friend if it means saving the world.

Although I prefer Delano's story where John sacrificed Lester without Lester's consent (shows John can be a ruthless bastard), Papa Midnite was involved, and there were ghosts haunting John cause he caused their deaths, episode 4 was still very solid for me and shows a lot of promise. It's the most Hellblazerish of all the episodes. Cant wait for next week's episode.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Grow up and accept the fact that sometimes, people on the internet say things you don't like.

I accept it in fact I've stayed our of it for the majority of the times but you must think all of us have mugs written on out foreheads if you think we don't know what you're doing.

 

[Jason Kane]

I accept it in fact I've stayed our of it for the majority of the times but you must think all of us have mugs written on out foreheads if you think we don't know what you're doing.

Best to put him on the ignore list.

 

[Jason Kane]

Although I prefer Delano's story where John sacrificed Lester without Lester's consent (shows John can be a ruthless bastard), Papa Midnite was involved, and there were ghosts haunting John cause he caused their deaths, episode 4 was still very solid for me and shows a lot of promise. It's the most Hellblazerish of all the episodes. Cant wait for next week's episode.

Speaking of ghosts..... [BLACKOUT]We may see Gary's sometime down the line this season[/BLACKOUT]

 

[antonydelfini]

Best to put him on the ignore list.

He said he liked the episode and predicted 0.8.

You posted "how charming" as a response.

He asked for your prediction.

You said it will be between 1.1-1.3.

He posted the actual rating and it's 0.8.

Now you say he's trolling.

I dont get it.

 

[Jason Kane]

He said he liked the episode and predicted 0.8.

You posted "how charming" as a response.

He asked for your prediction.

You said it will be between 1.1-1.3.

He posted the actual rating and it's 0.8.

Now you say he's trolling.

I dont get it.

He's been banging on about failure and pending cancellation for the last three weeks to where it can be considered trolling. You don't see others doing that over on AOS subforum, do you?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Gary was definitely sympathetic on the show than he was in the comics. Nice to see they're finally starting to show John willing to sacrifice those around him to get things done.

Oh and last night's episode was great. Favorite thus far.

 

[Guts]

 

[famicommander]

He's been banging on about failure and pending cancellation for the last three weeks to where it can be considered trolling. You don't see others doing that over on AOS subforum, do you?

I think if you actually go back and read everything I've posted in this forum, you'll see that the vast majority of my posts on the subject are in reply to someone who had already brought it up.

Basically, you're okay with people constantly posting optimistic spins on the ratings because you agree with that viewpoint. But because I post a realistic and/or pessimistic spin on the ratings, you try to silence me.

Notice how I'm not telling you to shut up or asking you to leave? I'm dissecting your actual arguments, when you do present them, and explaining why I believe them to be incorrect. I might throw a light barb in there but I'm on subject. And rather than confront my objections to your arguments, and then either post a counterpoint or concede, you choose to ignore them post the same arguments in the same fashion. If you don't want me to post my thoughts on the ratings, don't continuously post "good news" that isn't really all that good. Your understanding of how TV ratings work, how networks analyze them, the relative importance of alternate platforms/DVR, and how they all affect the cancellation prospects of a major network television show is not good.

If I seem harsh or one note it's because this is how the ratings discussions go in almost every struggling show. You mentioned AOS? Yes, people do talk about the ratings on that forum. The difference? The circumstances. AOS has been struggling and dropping consistently lately, but:
1. It's a Marvel property airing on ABC. Both are owned by Disney.
2. It's in-universe with their films and other shows, helping to keep awareness up and cross-promote
3. It's not struggling nearly as badly as Constantine is. Constantine is the lowest rated scripted show on network television on its night.

If you want to ignore me, that's just fine with me as well. You've said you were doing so before, yet you still feel the need to respond.

 

[Mr_336]

Anyway!....

9/10 from your uncle 336. The missus loved it and now wants to get the Original Sins trade.

 

[antonydelfini]

He's been banging on about failure and pending cancellation for the last three weeks to where it can be considered trolling. You don't see others doing that over on AOS subforum, do you?

But it's okay if someone's banging on about success and pending renewal for the last 3 weeks?

He's been civilized, logical, and reasonable with his posts. I consider posters who posts negative stuff about a topic without trying to soundly back it up as trolls, but this guys explains his views reasonably. As long as he posts like that Im fine with it and shouldnt be called a troll or asked to leave the forum just because he has a negative view of the ratings.

 

[KillerWolf]

Best episode yet, by far!

They keep getting better. Some scenes, like Gary trapping a demon in Sudhan and Constantine getting high with Shaman were literally like the panels from Hellblazer issue #1.

It had a better pacing than any of the previous episodes, story felt rich and I like the fact that the show is getting darker, grittier and also more gorish and horror-like.

I really hope they won't cancel it, as the potential I believed this show has is beginning to unwrap.

 

[KillerWolf]

100% agreed.

And to capture the tone of Hellblazer, you need to be fearless in going dark, edgy, scary, disturbing, and crazy. You need to have balls. You cant be afraid to show how dark and how much of a bastard John can be. You cant portray him and the stories he's in as superhero stories, the stories should be more of a psychological/ horror story, the kind that haunts and lingers in your mind after watching it. Episode 4 showed promise, that's why Im hopeful again with this show. Im excited for episode 5.

Somehow missed this post.

a thousand times!

 

[Demon Hunter]

This episode was so good. People keep crying that Supernatural is getting worse and worse, yet so many people keep watching it.
Constantine is getting better than even the first seasons of Supernatural and is struggling. I don't get it...

Make your friend watch Constantine! Spread the word!

 

[KillerWolf]

This episode was so good. People keep crying that Supernatural is getting worse and worse, yet so many people keep watching it.
Constantine is getting better than even the first seasons of Supernatural and is struggling. I don't get it...

Make your friend watch Constantine! Spread the word!

I've been telling everyone I know that watch Supernatural to switch to Constantine, but you know, habits... it's hard for them to leave the series even though it's been utter crap for the last four (arguably five) seasons.

What do you mean by getting better though? Quality-wise? Those two shows are different enough to not be compared so easily, though I find that first season of Supernatural held both horror and drama better than Constantine is right now.

But give Constantine a chance and it might be as good if not better than first three seasons of Supernatural. It's way much better than the current season (and few previous) already.

 

[Jason Kane]

This episode was so good. People keep crying that Supernatural is getting worse and worse, yet so many people keep watching it.
Constantine is getting better than even the first seasons of Supernatural and is struggling. I don't get it...

Make your friend watch Constantine! Spread the word!

Ironically, Supernatural has the same problem Hellblazer had under Jenkins' run when it came to overusing the big bad. With Jenkins it's the First of the Fallen fron his return to Hell, having a comatose John face to face with his bitter drunk father, to menacing John and his then recent girlfriend's family leading to him signing his soul away; with Supernatural, Crowley, Leviathans, Crowley, Booger's character, Crowley again w/De(an)mon. I like Sheppard as much as the next fella and lady but change the damn record! Plus the 200 episode, feels like fangirl endulgence to the extreme

Rage watching is another reason for why.

 

[Sawyer]

A+ nonsensing, guys.

 

[Jason Kane]

A+ nonsensing, guys.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I really like the episode. Love the dark humor and the way John acts. The only thing not really firing for me on the show is Zed

 

[Demon Hunter]

Even on this forum there doesn't seem to be enough people watching.
I hope NBC and DC won't decide to pull the plug.

We need to spread the word of mouth that this show deserves to be given a chance.

I feel that Matt Ryan is growing perfectly into the role.

 

[Jason Kane]

Even on this forum there doesn't seem to be enough people watching.
I hope NBC and DC won't decide to pull the plug.

We need to spread the word of mouth that this show deserves to be given a chance.

I feel that Matt Ryan is growing perfectly into the role.

That's what I've been saying!!

Less cancellation talk, more promoting the **** out it at all cost!

 

[bes628]

I think it a pretty great and I have never seen a episode live , the day/time slot are death. I know I'm personally trying to get jiggy on Friday around that time.

 

[Jason Kane]

I think it a pretty great and I have never seen a episode live , the day/time slot are death. I know I'm personally trying to get jiggy on Friday around that time.

Keep it in the bedroom, slick. j/k

 

[Micromind]

That's what I've been saying!!

Less cancellation talk, more promoting the **** out it at all cost!

We all are aware of the reality that the show is not getting as many viewers as it should be... look at the number of posters commenting on Gotham or AOS, this thread is not getting as many comments, so we know what's happening even without looking at the TRP numbers.

but why spoil the fun few posters are having by constantly bringing up the cancellation talk ?

I think that Matt Ryan is amazing so far as Constantine !