Costume question

[Chris Wallace]

Some things do have to make sense or they don't stand the test of time. 30 years ago it was ok to have Kal-El stand in one spot for 12 years & then suddenly be wearing his costume. Nowadays fans are too nit-picky to let something like that go.

 

[Rac]

Most definitely Green Goblin. (A good second is Bullseye.)

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Nowadays fans are too nit-picky to let something like that go.

Hmm, then I suppose people should practise the suspension of realism more.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I just don’t see any originality or variety in their black suits. Some, like blue and yellow colors could’ve helped.

What are you talking about? Everybody's got a distinctive color to their leather suit. Wolverine has yellow, Cyclops has blue, Iceman has white, Rogue has green, Storm has silver & Jean has red.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Hmm, then I suppose people should practise the suspension of realism more.

I have no problem w/suspending disbelief; but what looks good when drawn does not always look good on a real live human being.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Hmm, alright, do find me some picks of them please.
I sure didn't notice that in X1 and X2.

I have no problem w/suspending disbelief; but what looks good when drawn does not always look good on a real live human being.

Well, as I said, if they made Magneto and Juggs look good, they could've made the rest just as well.

 

[Abaddon]

I'm not sure it wouldve been very practically.

 

[Chris Wallace]

To be fair, I didn't notice it for awhile myself. But it's there. The trim around the shoulder pads, wrists, etc. In X2 they even have distinctive colors on their insignias.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'm not sure it wouldve been very practically.

To what are you referring?

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

To be fair, I didn't notice it for awhile myself. But it's there. The trim around the shoulder pads, wrists, etc. In X2 they even have distinctive colors on their insignias.

I did notice that in the costumes for X3.
But, if that's true for the previous films as well, so much for a 'hint'.
While I was talking about more of an obvious statement.
Like, it would've been great, if the big front X's on each of their costumes would've been each in their own colour, like Wolverine’s yellow, Iceman's white, ect...

 

[Chris Wallace]

The outlines are.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Yes, I know, and I take that no more than as a 'hint', which isn't bad itself but, if we're talking about something more...colourful, for the lack of better word, that's how I would've done it.

 

[Abaddon]

To what are you referring?

spandex.

 

[KenK]

In the case of the X-Men, they all were the same costume when the comic began. I don't see the X-men as a superhero team the same as the Avengers, who all started out as solo heroes anyway, hence each having an individual costume. Furthermore, each X-Man has gona through so many redesigns of their costumes, choosing one for each of them would be a pain in the ass. And in the context of the films and their tone, I wouldn't want them wearing something similar to spandex ala Spider-Man or Superman. The story isn't served by their costumes as it is in Spider-Man or a Superman movie. In those cases, there's a degree of fantasy and escapism that doesn't fit with the X-Men in translating them to live-action. Grounding them somewhat in reality is better for selling the themes of prejudice and intolerance and those who are born different having to deal with the world. Imagine the first film, with Erik Lensherr being separated from his parents in Auschwitz, then having to take him seriously in that maroor and purple get-up he wears in the comics!! Don't even get my started on Wolverine's yellow costume and that wing mask. And it's not like movie costume doesn't have hints of that comic costume, with the tiger stripes on the ribs and shoulders, and remember, in the first movie, that costume was one he had to borrow from Cyclops, it's not like they had time to make it for him before the Liberty Island mission.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Everything you've said here is what I've been trying to say all along.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Ugh, ok, I don’t know, if you addressed my view in your post as well KenK, but, just in case, as far as my opinion is concerned, no matter how much I try to explain it to you guys, you always seem to automatically assume ‘SPANDEX!’ and ‘BRIGHT COLORS!’. If you really want to know what I’m thinking, try to reread through all of my posts in this thread, I sure am not going to tell it allover again.

Imagine the first film, with Erik Lensherr being separated from his parents in Auschwitz, then having to take him seriously in that maroor and purple get-up he wears in the comics!!

What? We (well, I at least) did get Magneto’s costume in all XM films already. He has the helmet, the cape and violetish colours, and I still can take him very seriously. It is perfect.

In the case of the X-Men, they all were the same costume when the comic began.

Yup, look at Beast’s costume. That one is pretty much my perfect image of their very first outfits from the comics. Now do you really think they couldn’t all wear those colours? It looks fantastic and still serious, in my opinion.

And in the context of the films and their tone, I wouldn't want them wearing something similar to spandex ala Spider-Man or Superman. The story isn't served by their costumes as it is in Spider-Man or a Superman movie. In those cases, there's a degree of fantasy and escapism that doesn't fit with the X-Men in translating them to live-action. Grounding them somewhat in reality is better for selling the themes of prejudice and intolerance and those who are born different having to deal with the world.

Well, my previous comment still stands:

In my opinion this whole special ops team crap is restraining the characters too much.
I just don’t see any originality or variety in their black suits. Some, like blue and yellow colours could’ve helped.
It’s not as much as a suppression of identity as false first impression. They are not undercover agents. They’re supposed to be family friendly, if they want some sympathy for crying out laud.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

none spandex is stupid at is reminiscent of old dodgy tv series'. Even what Spider-Man and Superman wear isnt at all spandex but its cool.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Ugh, ok, I don’t know, if you addressed my view in your post as well KenK, but, just in case, as far as my opinion is concerned, no matter how much I try to explain it to you guys, you always seem to automatically assume ‘SPANDEX!’ and ‘BRIGHT COLORS!’. If you really want to know what I’m thinking, try to reread through all of my posts in this thread, I sure am not going to tell it allover again.


What? We (well, I at least) did get Magneto’s costume in all XM films already. He has the helmet, the cape and violetish colours, and I still can take him very seriously. It is perfect.


Yup, look at Beast’s costume. That one is pretty much my perfect image of their very first outfits from the comics. Now do you really think they couldn’t all wear those colours? It looks fantastic and still serious, in my opinion.



Well, my previous comment still stands:

OK-You know what I want from you? A detailed description of exactly how you would dress every member, head-to-toe. I'm only gonna put one restriction on you; everyone has to have a clearly visible "X" on his/her uniform. Go.

 

[tzarinna]

Yeah, I guess heroines can pull it off but it is not a good look on live action grown men.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

OK-You know what I want from you? A detailed description of exactly how you would dress every member, head-to-toe. I'm only gonna put one restriction on you; everyone has to have a clearly visible "X" on his/her uniform. Go.

Heh, alright, but I feel lazy to come up with the right words at the moment and I just don't think I really need to describe anything.
This costume is simply perfect for everybody in my opinion. Maybe it could use a little touch of blue and with a little variety of lines for each costume and you got yourself a great X-Men suit that I believe suits all members of the team. With the only exception of Storm probably.
Heck even colouring the black jumpsuits themselves in such a matter would be just as great.
No?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I think what Beast wears-having been away from the team-is the original uniform. That said, you're not as anti-leather as I thought; you'd just like more splashes of color. Ok.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Shish, that was what I was trying to tell ya man.
I even mentioned it from the very start:

I would rather have a leatherish/rubberish material, if it has to be.
What matters most to me isn't the fabric, it's the look.

So they wear black leather suits in the movies, big deal.
Even if, yes, I will always prefer more colour, they look cool nonetheless.

 

[Chris Wallace]

My Apologies; I'd Gotten So Used To A Certain Type Of Response I Just Kinda Projected It Onto You.

 

[The Question]

None of them should have worn spandex. Green Goblin should have had a better costume, but Soandex would have looked even worse.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

My Apologies; I'd Gotten So Used To A Certain Type Of Response I Just Kinda Projected It Onto You.

It's ok dude, peace.
Lately I try to be more considering.
I will voice my opinion, if I have a problem with a certain element, but I’ll accept it anyway for the sake of the whole picture, if it means something to me.