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The crane operator in TASM. Talia's death in TDKR. Tom Cruise's "you complete me" speech in Jerry Maguire...
and Steve Carrell in anything.
and Steve Carrell in anything.
Because it was WW2.
Almost everyone would immediately think Hitler.
Why would he be referencing Red Skull in front of a bunch of German people that didn't even know he existed? It was Hitler.
The crane operator in TASM.
If you think he was referencing Red Skull, then kudos.If we're talking about a different world where there are known superheroes and known villains as well, you have to think that maybe Red Skull IS known as much as Hitler is in that world, so yes, I do think it could be a reference to Red Skull. And Picard, would it matter even if some people didn't know who he was talking about as long as Cap knew what he was talking about? Not like he said that to get the attention of people to say 'Oh, that's a good one, Cap!'.
Of course YOU wouldn't call TASM a good movie, Anno.Imo, not much the crane operator but that entire crane scene. But, we are talking about moments in good movies, so nevermind...lol.
If you think he was referencing Red Skull, then kudos.
Of course YOU wouldn't call TASM a good movie, Anno.
I kinda look at this as "Whedon style" dialogue."I'm bringing the party to you guys" - Iron Man
"I don't see how that's a party." - Black Widow
Captain America's reference to Hitler while in Germany. Ugh.
But back to TDKR, how about the fact that he still uses the Bat voice around Selina Kyle even though she knows who he is now?
And of course there's "So that's what that feels like", again Bat voice not needed for that one. Hell, even Keaton's Batman used his real voice when no one was around.
I actually felt that line was badass. Something a superhero from that era would say.
I kinda look at this as "Whedon style" dialogue.
I actually felt that line was badass. Something a superhero from that era would say.
It definitely sounds like a line from the 40s which is why it works. He is from the 1940s. Patriotism and optimism and lines like that were normal.
Third most cringe worthy moment in that movie is when Selina is walking down the jail cell and grabs an inmate's arms and does that ridiculous spin. Wtf was that?
That looked so stupid, but kind of funny.You mean...twisting and breaking his wrists?
That looked so stupid, but kind of funny.
Once again, I feel that the message behind the line was really good, but it was poorly written.
But you are missing the point. In the 40s and the time period Rogers is from that line would have been normal. The idea of corny and cheesy was different then and cynicism wasnt quite what it is today. It fits Roger's and is something that would come from him. Its meant to be slightly hammy and old fashioned. It goes back to the discussion Coulson and Cap have on the jet to the carrier. "I would have thought the stars and stripes would be a little old fashioned." "We need a little old fashioned." Roger's doesnt think like us and he doesnt say stuff like us. The line is perfectly written for his character.
People didn't REALLY speak like that in the 40s. In movies, comic books, etc, you'd hear that. But come on... I guess I'm just not a fan of Cap to begin with, so whatever.
He's a pretty outdated character. I only like him at all because I appreciate the idea of a man being out of his place and time.