Curious how they will handle the underwater scenes..

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If I remember correctly Atlantis is underwater (no dome full of air). So between that and the scenes underwater. I am curious how they will handle dialog.
 
Film it like the more recent gravity movies such as Gravity, the Martian, etc...

CGI the water in.
 
There will be an underwater scene for Aquaman in BvS.
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I think a lot is going to depend on the response to Aquaman in general on the big screen as well as how difficult Wan wants to make his shoot for the film.

Personally I am all for a re-imagining of the DC Atlantis mythos to take into account the difficulty that Atlanteans always being in water and communication being done telepathically or otherwise would pose to a big budget film.
 
I can't wait to see how they handle this on film – it does seem very hard to accomplish, so it will be interesting... If they pull it off, it will be visually unique.
 
I think a lot is going to depend on the response to Aquaman in general on the big screen as well as how difficult Wan wants to make his shoot for the film.

Personally I am all for a re-imagining of the DC Atlantis mythos to take into account the difficulty that Atlanteans always being in water and communication being done telepathically or otherwise would pose to a big budget film.

I think Atlantis will be under a dome, just like it was in JL/JLU.
 
I think Atlantis will be under a dome, just like it was in JL/JLU.

Agreed, or it will at least be some kind of environment that is away from the water, say they make it tunneled out of the bedrock of the ocean or something. I think there are certain aspects of Aquaman and his general mythology that for a lot of pragmatic reasons may well be altered. As a for instance I think that they might want to rethink his "out of water" weakness.
 
I was thinking about a way they could be underwater and still talk without resorting to telepathy. I mean because I think just leaving all the water out would be the most logical cost effective solution( being in a dome etc.) but also feels kinda lazy to me. I though what if they can control water and whenever they talk the water opens up around them kinda "parting" ala ten commandments but kinda like a circle around them with the water flowing in the circle and then when they finish it engulfs them again. I think it would be a great effect however that leaaves the problem of how are atlanteans gonna walk around with all that water. Another option would be that they're sorrounded by water everywhere but their advanced tech keeps the water in a constant wall/mural formation through out the kingdom. It could be used to create some beautiful set decorations like gigantic water spheres with all sorts of beautiful creatures inside like water horses and such.
 
There will be an underwater scene for Aquaman in BvS.
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Can I just say I'm loving momoa's aquaman so much that I actually don't like seeing the traditional one as much anymore. When I see blond square jawed aquaman I don't feel happy or interested in the stories as much.

Back on topic, easy. Just go to a place like, I don't know, the Seychelles for beautiful tropical shots of above water and cgi for below it. If they could do it for Gravity then filming water should be a piece of cake.
 
Agreed, or it will at least be some kind of environment that is away from the water, say they make it tunneled out of the bedrock of the ocean or something. I think there are certain aspects of Aquaman and his general mythology that for a lot of pragmatic reasons may well be altered. As a for instance I think that they might want to rethink his "out of water" weakness.

Yep, I agree completely.
 
I want plenty of air pockets, not just for practical reasons in his own film, but also for the others like Justice League or any other crossover he or his kith and kin may have like Teen Titans or Young Justice, and because I think there can be some fun use of air pockets in his film mythology.

For instance, let's say that Atlantis's capital has a significant number of surface dweller subjects who act as a lower caste system, sorcerous Guinea pigs, and new donations to the gene pool, all for he, trapped and corralled in domed cities and subterranean tunnels. These would be people captured from raids against surface dweller navies, salvaged from sinking ships, and maybe even the descendants of original Atlantean peasants, slaves, and servants, as well as survivors from any other sunken cities that the Atlantean Empire may have captured over the centuries (like Ys in Brittany). You now have a population that can produce someone like Black Manta as someone who knows Atlantean culture, language, and technology, while still being an outsider who has a grudge with certain Atlnateans. Personally, I'd see Black Manta and his men starting as a Janissary-style bodyguard to the nobility, before they gradually shift to being a renegade faction with a personal feud with King Arthur Curry.

The way I see it, air pockets and domed cities enable for a fascinating development of Atlantis in terms of politics and culture:

1: High ranking Atlantean nobility gains full mobility in both surface conditions and underwater conditions, and get a place to flaunt and exploit their superior strength and toughness among mere mortals, and to train for any conflict on the surface. You also have a place for them to get the fully developed and ugly spectrum of prejudice: some would see surface subjects who can't leave their homes as parasites, others will act faux-paternal towards these "pitiable wretches", and some would simply objectify them as literal human resources.

2: You get four potential different castes for Atlanteans. The upper caste can move in both sea and air, looks human, and preserves what's left of their original culture. Then you'd have the humanoid mutates, like King Shark and Lagoon Boy, who are equally adaptable and intelligent, but are outsiders because of their looks. Then you'd have the utterly transformed mutates, like the Trench for the bad and the mermaids and such for the good, who are so divorced from whatever humanity their ancestors had that they don't even really understand the Atlanteans. And finally, the mortal humans who are trapped scraping by in tiny world's enclosed in darkness controlled by their masters.

3: We get a scenario where mixed-Atlanteans and surface dwellers have enough precedent and predecessors that there can be a real blending of the world. Black Manta's son can be both concealed among Atlantean nobility and still very clearly a product of diverse integration of surface dwellers to Atlantis's people. Arthur can have a vested interest in seeing peace installed in Atlantis that can preserve all lives. And Orm can get that weird world view where destroying the majority of the surface world is okay because they'll just subject the survivors under the sea.
 
Those are interesting ideas. I think I have always LOVED that in the Post-Crisis they had Arthur imprisoned by the Atlanteans and being on a chain gang with Vulko. The idea of making his classic suit a prison uniform was great. I like the idea that he kind of kept wearing the suit to remind all the upper crust Atlanteans that he, once a lowly prisoner, is the rightly born king.
 
I'm probably going to confess some weird fetish now, but underwater footage is quite arousing for me. And what do they do? They hire absolutely hottest human species to play main roles...

Ahem... I think they will make large portion of the movie outside of water to reduce the cost, but we will get water scenes for sure. Both artifical and real. It's gonna be quite wet filming process for Jason and Amber.
 
I wonder if the world of Atlantis will be similar to that of the world of Asgard in Marvel but underwater of course but I wonder if Aquaman will be the DCCU version of Thor
 
I wonder if the world of Atlantis will be similar to that of the world of Asgard in Marvel but underwater of course but I wonder if Aquaman will be the DCCU version of Thor
Wonder Woman is DCEU version of Thor.
 
In a sense Wonder Woman is DCEU version of Thor but then again the case could also be made for Aquaman too because he like Wonder Woman is also royalty he is Atlantean royalty but I will agree with you that he is not a demigod which is what Wonder Woman is in a sense
 
I was thinking about a way they could be underwater and still talk without resorting to telepathy. I mean because I think just leaving all the water out would be the most logical cost effective solution( being in a dome etc.) but also feels kinda lazy to me. I though what if they can control water and whenever they talk the water opens up around them kinda "parting" ala ten commandments but kinda like a circle around them with the water flowing in the circle and then when they finish it engulfs them again. I think it would be a great effect however that leaaves the problem of how are atlanteans gonna walk around with all that water. Another option would be that they're sorrounded by water everywhere but their advanced tech keeps the water in a constant wall/mural formation through out the kingdom. It could be used to create some beautiful set decorations like gigantic water spheres with all sorts of beautiful creatures inside like water horses and such.

How about if they have english as the main language, but when in water, they make clicking sounds, like dolphins to communicate, with hand signals - picture it as a mixture of dolphin clicks and baseball codes.
 
How about if they have english as the main language, but when in water, they make clicking sounds, like dolphins to communicate, with hand signals - picture it as a mixture of dolphin clicks and baseball codes.

I think that would be great
 
How about if they have english as the main language, but when in water, they make clicking sounds, like dolphins to communicate, with hand signals - picture it as a mixture of dolphin clicks and baseball codes.
I think it's a bit over the top. Unless they communicate to underwater fauna.
 
Willem Dafoe Will Go Under The Sea In JUSTICE LEAGUE
Plus: I think they solved the underwater problem from BvS.
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I do have some more insight into how they'll accomplish Atlantean stuff in Justice League (and, I assume, Aquaman, which went back to the drawing board in the last week or so with a complete page one rewrite).

My sources tell me that rather than shoot in a water tank this time Zack Snyder has set up an elaborate rig on a green screen stage

Momoa's hair will be CGIed into a flowy, underwater look.

That isn't the only greenscreen on the film. I'm being told that a majority of the movie will be shot on sets and Snyder will utilize background replacement, similar to his approach to 300. This offers him more control on the visuals of the film, but it also keeps the costumed characters away from prying cameras.
 
How about if they have english as the main language, but when in water, they make clicking sounds, like dolphins to communicate, with hand signals - picture it as a mixture of dolphin clicks and baseball codes.

The best option really would be that all atlanteans have mild telepathy allowing them to communicate but not control minds, and it wouldn't make Arthur's Telepathy come out of nowhere, it would just be incredibly strong because he is royalty, I also think it would be interesting if his trident amplified his telepathy allowing him to control sea beasts that only the ruler of atlantis/wielder of the trident could.
 
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When I heard they were doing this movie my first question was how they could film a movie about a place under the water. Even the scene of Aquaman in BvS didn't come of well imo.
 
So Atlantis could be a giant living coral reef. You know how fish live in and around reefs. Same idea, but on a much bigger scale. It should be a blend of the natural and man made.

That would be ****ing cool I think.
 

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