The Dark Knight Rises David Cronenberg says some stupid things about superhero movies

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm curious regarding how many critically acclaimed graphic novel Cronenberg has read if any.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Somebody mail Cronenberg Understanding Comics by Brian McCloud.

If he read it he'd probably offer a public apology a few days after.

 

[the_monk]

I'm curious regarding how many critically acclaimed graphic novel Cronenberg has read if any.

He directed "A History of Violence," based on the graphic novel.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yeah but there's over a hundred great ones.

If I read one decent sci-fi novel it doesn't make me an expert on the genre.

 

[the_monk]

Right, but you said "if any."

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Maybe he just read the screenplay but not the actual graphic novel.

 

[BatManFan_NYC]

david cronenberg is one of my all time favorite directors. the dude is a brilliant film maker. his horror films from the early 70's are unmatched in their genre. even his failures as a film maker can be respected for their ambitious high concepts and attempts to push boundaries.

i agree with his opinion that TDKR was boring. i also agree that its stupid for people to consider TDKR as supreme cinema art. i disagree with his sweeping generalization about comic books. and im sure given the opportunity, his opinion on that could easily be reversed.

nothing he's said changes my respect and praise of him as a film maker.



ha, cronenberg has zero desire to direct 200 million dollar blockbusters.



you know whats more offensive than anything cronenberg said? yer wish for someone to DIE just because they think comic books are kids fare. you can **** off with that bull****.

I agree with neither him, nor you that TDK was boring. It's my least favorite of the 3, but to say it was boring is not ony harsh, but inaccurate..

A lot of great dialogue, interesting cinematography, good acting, ambitious, yes, but boring?Boring means uninteresting.

That just makes me suspect you did not "understand" it.
I understand "boring" can be subjective, but in this case I think it's inaccurate.

 

[LegendAssemble]

He's right comics are adolescence at it's core and these films should be more fun and exciting because by nature they are kids movies. I mean the Avengers is filled with laughs and a lighthearted mood and something the kids would love. Spider-Man wears a colorful costume and swings around, plus he teaches kids not to pick on people. The X-Men teach kids not to be racist. And the Watchmen teaches that unplanned pregnancy can be a difficult but nothing a bullet can't fix, and a great family friendly lesson on erectile disfunction!

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

who the hell is this Cronenberg *****e?

if it wasn't for him bad mouthing TDKR i wouldn't have heard of him. and it's pretty rich of him to stay trash like that considering he cast that Twilight tool in his new movie.

 

[Mister H.]

He's an overrated filmmaker that knows nothing of subtelty. He's made some okay films, and I'm a sucker for anything dealing with the human mind or psychology...but his films are so on the nose and obvious that they aren't worth a second viewing. David Lynch makes Cronenberg look like a film student.

I know that had nothing to do with TDKR, but his opinion of that movie means less to me than the skin on a dog's vagina. It's his arrogance and immaturity that made me want to respond.

 

[georgec]

Cronenberg is a fantastic director. One of my favorites. It doesn't really matter to me that he doesn't like superhero/comic movies. That's like a country singer disliking rap music. People who like rap shouldn't be bothered that a country singer doesn't like rap as well.

 

[DerTommissar]

who the hell is this Cronenberg *****e?

if it wasn't for him bad mouthing TDKR i wouldn't have heard of him. and it's pretty rich of him to stay trash like that considering he cast that Twilight tool in his new movie.

Look him up when you get a moment.

Personally I liked his remake of THE FLY (from the 80's). More recently HISTORY OF VIOLENCE and EASTERN PROMISES were good.

Taste-wise, I think he and Nolan actually have some qualities in common and I would bet money Nolan likes Cronenberg's work.

So it sucks Cronenberg spouted-off like this.

I have no idea why he felt like he had to dump on Nolan and superheroes/comicbooks.

Unfortunately he makes himself look fickle.

 

[Majik1387]

What a ridiculous thread. Made simply because he went against the grain.

 

[Agent Orange]

Didn't Bale back out of A Dangerous Method because of his commitments to Batman? I think that Cotillard declined a role in Cosmopolis as well. Could be some vindictive sour grapes on David's part.

P.S. I'm a David Cronenberg fan.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I like Cronenberg.

That said, those are some strong words from a man who helmed the 'A History of Violence' adaptation.

Does not compute.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I don't care if he thinks Rises was boring or not supreme art. That's his opinion.

But lambasting and criticizing a genre which HE made a film for? And calling it childish nonetheless? Give me a break. Yes, there are VERY MINOR aspects that may seem childish, but on the whole, comic books have a dark and mature core that is unmatched by a lot of fiction.

And Nolan does 3D? lol.

 

[Doctor Who]

meh

 

[DerTommissar]

Sad truth is Cronenberg could make an AWESOME superhero movie.

If Marvel announced he was making DOCTOR STRANGE, for example, I would completely want to see that movie.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i think his comment about comic books were obviously in regards to superhero comics, which a history of violence is not.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

i think his comment about comic books were obviously in regards to superhero comics, which a history of violence is not.

Vertigo's titles aren't any different, in essence.

Animal Man, The Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol, Hellblazer, Sandman, V for Vendetta, Shade, Black Orchid, etc are basically 'darker' comic book characters without masks and capes. Incidentally, several of these characters have been found in the DCU interacting with the likes of Batman or Superman, and are placed in similar situations.

A History of Violence remains a graphic novel from DC. It's apart of the genre. No matter how one tries to justify it, he directed a DC property.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Vertigo's titles aren't any different, in essence.

Animal Man, The Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol, Hellblazer, Sandman, V for Vendetta, Shade, Black Orchid, etc are basically 'darker' comic book characters without masks and capes. Incidentally, several of these characters have been found in the DCU interacting with the likes of Batman or Superman, and are placed in similar situations.

A History of Violence remains a graphic novel from DC. It's apart of the genre. No matter how one tries to justify it, he directed a DC property.

i understand all that. my point is, people are calling him a hypocrite for having his opinion on comics while having directed a comic book movie. my point is, his comments seem directed not so much at comics in general, but rather SUPERHERO comics in general. A History of Violence is not a superhero comic.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Maybe so, but he still doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

i understand all that. my point is, people are calling him a hypocrite for having his opinion on comics while having directed a comic book movie. my point is, his comments seem directed not so much at comics in general, but rather SUPERHERO comics in general. A History of Violence is not a superhero comic.

Understandable, but it is a bit hypocritical. What makes Tom Stall any more 'mature' than Frank Castle (Punisher '04)? And I don't precisely remember A History of Violence exploring philosophical themes and socio-political subtext like V for Vendetta and Watchmen did.

It's his opinion, but I do find his opinion to be a bit flawed when he cites that superhero comic books and movies are purely for adolescents.

 

[georgec]

Did you guys know Cosmopolis, Cronenberg's new movie, comes out this weekend?

You might not have known before these quotes by him on superhero movies made news.

 

[BlackFox]

Not sure who this guy is but just doesnt seem like a comic book fan anyway, so I guess he's not likely to dig a film about them. Period drama's are not really my thing at all but I dont have a problem with other liking them. Just seems like he's doing it for attention really.