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DC Animated - Batman Under the Red Hood

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DiMaggio was fantastic, but I couldn't help but hear a little bit of Bender underneath all the psychosis of the Joker.

yeah, his joker was great, not as good as Hamill, but WAY better than the guy who played him in "The Batman", both DiMaggio and Hamill have GREAT Joker laughs :joker:.
 
DC has always been great about the actors they get to voice any of their projects.

Also, the Jonah Hex short blew the movie out of the water.
 
yeah even the Jonah Hex short had some pretty big name actors/actresses voicing the little parts. Which I agree with just about everything everyone is saying about the short, just destroys the movie in every way possible.
 
Really, I can't stress enough how good this film is. Every needs to go tell everyone they know to go buy and watch this movie. DC did a great job with this movie.
 
just picked up on watched it last night (on a projector making a huge screen on my wall :D). I will be honest i expected an enjoyable, not great, animated batman like every other direct2DVD dc animated movie. This was not only a good animated movie, but just a good movie period. I loved it. I put it on the same caliber of film as batman begins. great movie.
 
I was pleasantly surprised by how good this was. Had a few issues with pacing, but besides that, I really enjoyed it.

now, the Jonah Hex short on the other hand, that was amazing. I'll say it again: Tom Jane is the man.

now for a question: For those who watched the bonus feature about the history of Robin, in the bit when Paul Levitz was talking about how Robin's origin wasn't really fleshed out until the 60's, they show some panels with some AMAZING artwork that showed Robin's parents being killed. Anyone know what book that is?
 
Another quarter of the year, another WB Home Video DC Animation video release. They've ramped up production of these as Marvel's seemed to severely limit theirs since 2007 or so - at least 3 of DC's hit home video shelves a year. This is actually the first one in a while I was unable to see early, since the DVD shop that used to release discs before the street date closed, and I didn't win a ticket for an advanced screening as I did for JL: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS (which I saw about 2 weeks before the release date).

While Batman in animation with Bruce Timm as producer has long been a recipe for greatness, that greatness as of late has often escaped the DTV release section. BATMAN: SUBZERO has it's charms, but for me there are too many gaps in the action. Just a few years ago, it seemed, I was stunned to see BATMAN: MYSTERY OF THE BATWOMAN not only show up, but insert itself flawlessly into the continuity of the second season of CN's "JUSTICE LEAGUE" show. While that one was entertaining, especially for a Bane fan like me who didn't expect him, it was more of a "pleasure cruise" as Alfred mentions than a real feature. But didn't I skip one in the middle? Yes, BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER, which for some is the real series finale that came in 1999-2000 of that show, that was so intense that VHS couldn't handle the unedited version. For many, including myself, that feature set the standard for comic DTV's in general and for Batman in particular. You had epic music, exceptional animation, ripping action, a tormented story and fine acting. Part of me still thinks that Mark Hamill's never been able to top his Joker performance in that piece, even though he's played Joker for ten years since. Despite WB's new line of DCU ANIMATED video features, this is really only the second to exclusively star Batman. The first was "BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS", which has been dubbed "The Bat-iatrix" as it is similar in format to WB's "The Animatrix". Plus, like Animatrix, it was more of a commercial effort to capitalize on a film more than it was a piece by itself, despite the efforts of Kevin Conroy. Sure, Batman would pop up in two Justice League features, and soon to be two team-up tales with Superman (both of which, I may add, are Superman stories, guest starring Batman, rather than vice versa). So in many ways this is the first real Batman DTV in years, one with a single cohesive story or one that adapts one from the comics (GOTHAM KNIGHTS is more an animated mosaic with a connecting theme, not a story).

So, how'd it fare to me? I'll say it easily is the best Batman DTV since RETURN OF THE JOKER, and probably the only one that's tried to get into Batman's head as much since the theatrical release, MASK OF THE PHANTASM (and it goes under appreciated that it WAS a theatrical release; it just had the displeasure of being marketed very, very poorly, not unlike another under appreciated WB animated feature 6 years later, THE IRON GIANT). That said, BATMAN: UNDER THE RED HOOD does suffer it's faults, and I'd say the whole is probably greater than the sum of it's parts. I probably enjoyed JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS more, but that was a different sort of film. It is among the best of the set of recent releases. However, I will avoid over rating it.

I'll get the negatives out of the way, and forgo a plot summary for space and time limitations. If you're reading a review, you probably know the plot. It's based on an arc in the comics by Judd Winick from several years ago - an arc that happened to be running around the same time that Ed Brubaker was telling his WINTER SOLDIER arc in CAPTAIN AMERICA, so the two were often compared to each other.
While naturally this translation bares differences (the revival in this with Ra's Al Ghul being involved worked a lot better than "Superboy Prime Punched Reality Really Hard"), there is one major angle that doesn't translate. That is the mystery angle. In the comic book series, Batman had JUST spent a prior arc teased about Jason Todd returning, only for it to be proven as Clayface. The revolving identity of the Red Hood as a gimmick villain in Gotham is also more acceptable to comic book readers, who could have assumed Red Hood was merely a new villain, deciding to keep the mantle for longer. These do not translate into the animated film. There is no mystery. It is obvious from about the first time Red Hood appears that this is Jason Todd, and I do not believe that my knowledge of comics or my having seen the official teaser/trailer for the film (which also undermines the mystery) hurt this. The thing with a mystery is you need to establish your suspects quickly, and immediately. In this film, we watch Jason Todd seemingly die. Ra's Al Ghul and Joker are shown. When Red Hood appears, we can easily tell it is neither the Joker or Ra's. It cannot somehow be an insane Nightwing because he is present also. The identity of the Red Hood has to be explained via exposition after the fact. The problem with this is that the first two acts of the piece treat this as a mystery, although Batman is really just catching up to what the audience knew about ten minutes in. This makes the elements of solving the mystery; analyzing audio samples, testing for DNA, and so on, lose any weight or merit, and instead become moments where it is easy to see how much time has passed on the clock. It becomes an obligation to play it out like a mystery because to do less would be to make it seem too simple, but the problem is to me the DTV really only gets good when the mystery has been abandoned, and Batman is faced with the dilemma of it all. A common writing motto is that if you read your own work and one page seems to not be needed, than your work is a page too long. The only people who would sense a genuine mystery are children under 7, people who never read the comics and are under 7, or people who never read the comics, are under 7, and accidentally hit CHAPTER SKIP on their DVD REMOTE PAD and decided not to go back.

In retrospect, opening the movie with Todd's death was perhaps daring, and at the end of the tale it makes sense. But for the mystery angle, it kills it, and unfortunately that makes up about 30 minutes of the 75 minute feature. That's a problem that can't be ignored, no matter how you like the result. If you got lost and stumbled upon a really cool bar, it would be unwise to forget that you began the day by being lost. This actually translates into my second criticism of the film, and that is that despite the PG-13 rating and some very harsh subject matter, the film's directors and producers, perhaps under edict from WB, always seem to pull back the gore at critical moments, even when it would make the scene effective. The first chapter seeks to homage one of those famous comic book panels, of a sorrowful Batman pulling Todd's corpse from the rubble of an explosion. The problem was that in the comic, that panel was so shocking and memorable because of how graphic it was. Poor Todd's face had been pumped from the beating Joker gave him, Rocky style. His costume was torn, and there was blood leaking down his limbs. The brutality was what helped drive home how horrible it was. Even the segment where Joker hammers at Todd with the crowbar is made more intense from the fact that in the comic, Todd looked like he was getting hit by Ivan Drago. When Joker leaves Todd for dead, Todd looks bad enough that it is easy to assume he IS dead, only for him to not be (yet). I'm not a gore hound; I just expect a PG-13 film to have reasonable presentations and consequences of violence, more so than a PG film. As harsh and intense as that beginning is (and there is a little blood there), it would have hit my gut worse to see some more of the red stuff, some more bruises here and there. Todd suffered a horrific beating at Joker's hands, but I don't think the animation captured it as well as it could have without being as horrific as the comic was (which, looking back, is tamer than many modern issues of X-FORCE). This becomes a problem for some other scenes as well. Batman and Todd are smashing each other through walls or face-first against toilet seats, and they don't even have a blemish. This gets the OPPOSITE effect of a viewer; if the person doesn't look hurt, it is hard to tell that they are hurt. Ironically, soccer moms who were zealots about violence in 'toons back in the 80's and 90's should have learned that their cherubs would learn more from a Ninja Turtle or He-Man having to bandage a visible, painful looking wound or that some attacks are fatal than if they watched and assumed nothing was ever painful or fatal. On the other hand, other moments of the film had people being killed by tasers being shoved into their faces or even set ablaze on screen. TV viewers were shocked when in the JLU version of "FOR THE MAN WHO HAS EVERYTHING", Superman was so mad, he PULPED Mongul's face. It's that sort of thing that I think would have helped really hammer the points home. Especially considering this is a feature that, aside for a few moments, does not feature super-humans; it is about people who can be hurt and killed by the same things as anyone can, physically.

Any other issues I have with it are less major and more nit-picky. While the AMAZO cameo was nice (especially to see his original form), I'm not sure it really added much to the movie besides providing a cool fight. AMAZO seemed only able to manifest Superman's powers, and even those were low grade as Batman takes a punch from him and reacts with no more consequences than if he got hit by Bane or Killer Croc (who Superman dwarfs). Maybe AMAZO's battery was low? And while this is more of a general DC nit-pick, but Black Mask's name doesn't make sense anymore. It made sense when he actually wore a black mask, but if his skull is just a black skull, then he should be called Black Skull. And I know the answer is, "But then he'd be too close to Red Skull". My response is that DC obviously wanted that direction when they decided to have Black Mask's face look like a skull, and for him to wear white suits. Why wimp out on a rip all the way and continue to call him a name that no longer applies? That's like if Sportsmaster decided to become a cyborg who used laser guns and bladed weapons, but continued to call himself Sportsmaster despite having nothing to do with sports anymore. Finally, while Todd was the subject of most of the flashbacks of the film, I did think that showing us a flashback of Grayson as Robin would have served to contrast his style better, and given the yarn more effective. I'd rather a minute or so taken about that than Batman finding some clue to prove what the viewer already knows. Any other demerits sort of blend into a lecture I said when YOUNG JUSTICE was being first mentioned, and that is that nobody else but Dick Grayson had any reason to call themselves Robin besides him. To Grayson, Robin was a personal name much like Batman is to Wayne; it was the nickname his parents gave him, and Robin's colors are based on the unitard he wore in the trapeze act. Neither Jason Todd or Tim Drake (who is not in the film, FYI) have any reason to wear a Robin suit other than it is assumed that a partner of Batman's much ALWAYS be Robin. It has the unintentional effect of making Wayne seem like a pedo who likes all his wards to wear the same outfit as the first. Imagine if I demanded that anyone who wants to be my new best friend has to wear the jacket of my first best friend. It would probably freak them out. The implication is that Robin got enough fame that other kids wanted to be like him, but I don't know; wouldn't most kids want to be Batman? With a generation's worth of 20/20 hindsight, I think Todd and Drake should have each had their own personal identity like Grayson had. For franchise reasons, of course, that's impossible, but not having a story reason why Todd wants to wear Grayson's spare does sort of stand out to me.

That's been quite a read, but fortunately, for this film, the good outweighs the bad
and despite any sense of the mystery being obligatory, once that obligation is settled, the film really kicks into high gear. While the lack of some appropriate gore here and there does cause me to see the tip of the curtain at times, it doesn't distract me entirely from the production. There is much to like here. Andrea Romano, as usual, does a great job with casting and getting the most of out her cast. With characters like Batman and Joker especially, having to recast them is always a roll of the dice as to many fans, Conroy and Hamill ARE those roles and there's no chance for anyone else to try. I'm not that intolerant and I thought Bruce Greenwood and Jon DiMaggio were masterful. I settled into Greenwood's Batman quicker than I have for anyone else who has voiced him aside for Conroy recently, and the only Bat-actor who I settled in that quickly besides Conroy was probably D. Bader's Batman in "BRAVE AND THE BOLD", but ONLY because he fits the tone of the show. DiMaggio's done no end of voice work (even if he still is best known for Bender on FUTURAMA), and while it did take me a little time to get used to his Joker, by the end I liked it. He mastered the laugh chillingly well. His performance had hints of both Hamill and Heath Ledger in it, and the character design for the Joker actually helped make that combination work. He could make Joker sound chilling and funny at various moments, or both at once, which is the main thing. Neil Patrick Harris was naturally very good as Nightwing, but I had no doubts after hearing him play Spider-Man in '03. Jensen Ackles from SUPERNATURAL, of course, all but steals the show as Jason Todd/Red Hood, and he did a pretty good job. At times he sounded similar in his delivery to Harris, but I don't think that was a bad thing; I think it helped underscore the point that Todd and Grayson had similarities, but also vast differences in personality and experiences. There was overlap but the two were different men and went their own way. I do like that Kelly Hu has been getting more voicework, as she's not bad at it (before VAMPIRE DIARIES, she was Sha-Shan in SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN). Wade Williams sounded crusty enough to be Black Mask, who is naturally a combination of "freak" and mobster. Finally, Jason Isaac's Ra's was a bit more subdued than some performances of the character, but it fit the tone of the film.

The 2D animation was exceptional. The 3D CGI for the vehicles was not, often looking like they'd been zapped into the world of the Playstation 2. But the CG did work better for some backgrounds and other moments. The character designs were very good, the animation was fluid, and the music worked. The fight scenes were spectacular. Brandon Vietti is credited with direction while Jay Olivia on storyboards, and they both did an awesome job. The action sequences put a damn lot of live action films, including some of the Batman films, to shame. Even "BATMAN BEGINS" suffered from "shaky camera" syndrome. Even if it was jarring when Jason or Batman could be punched through a wall and get up, the action was usually so awesome that one hardly cared a second later. If Vietti brings even half this flair for action into "YOUNG JUSTICE", then we're in for a damned treat. Dusty Abell's character designs were also very good. Red Hood, Joker, Batman, everyone looked great. It's a minor thing, but I also liked just being able to see Nightwing show up, in a modern design, and be in some fluid action and banter. He's a cool character and I sometimes think he doesn't get much respect without being Robin or "Batman II".

Beyond the mystery angle, the writing was pretty good; Winick is credited with the story version of this as well. Batman's memories are introduced not so much as pure flashbacks but him watching little "ghosts" appear before it goes full into memory mode, which worked a lot better than Wolverine's "Smellovision" from WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN, which looked similar. Joker was as nutty as expected, and I was somewhat disappointed when Nightwing sat out the last half of the film, as he was pretty fun to have around. I did like the fact that while Jason was mentioned as being, basically, a troubled seed to begin with, Batman still held himself responsible for him turning down the path of darkness - even more so than Jason himself seemed to. Jason Todd of course was an interesting villain; or anti-hero, or even what some may dub "anti-villain". In many angles he became similar to the Punisher, although while the Punisher has stolen capital from criminals to fund his operations (after wasting them, of course), Red Hood was setting himself up director as a kingpin sort of figure and watching with bemusement as the crooks killed each other. I suppose a point could have been made about Jason manipulating the thugs against each other resulting in more street violence endangered innocent people more (the people always hit by stray shots or debris from explosions), but then again Batman didn't care about the car roof he let sail into the distance, so probably better left unsaid. The rapport between Wayne and Grayson was amusing; the two didn't seem to get along well, but on the field they were very cohesive, as much so as a trapeze act would have to be. There was one shot where Nightwing swings on a line to grab Batman's arm that was very circus esque that I thought captured it perfectly. Red Hood, of course, was an incredible opponent because Batman had trained him, so he knew all of Wayne's moves and tactics. Yet while Red Hood did a lot of rotten stuff, including allowing the Joker to be released from Arkham just to avenge himself (there were many risks involved with that, such as what if Joker decided to kill innocent people in his first act instead of Black Mask's mobsters), or killing people, or whatnot, he never quite lost all sympathy. While that first chapter could have been gorier, it was still intense. His resurrection in the Lazarus Pit, actually, seemed more horrific. In the end he didn't think Batman loved him enough to at least kill the Joker once and for all to avenge him, while Todd would have done so for Wayne. Batman described his position, but was Todd right? His counter was, "I'm not telling you to waste everyone, like Penguin or Dent, just certain ones" basically. But can one ever really stop? Once one abandons concern for life, even some of the worst ones, is there a going back? Where does it end? Joker started out a common petty thief, after all; why not waste all muggers so they never get that big? On the other hand, Bat-fans have had eternal debates on whatever Batman would or should ice the Joker, and just the Joker. The movie didn't try to give a magic answer to it, just played the characters off each other as they would act (including the Joker). In comparison, some fan-films that set up this dilemma try to heavy handedly claim Batman should kill, or not kill, at all times.

The ending, I would say, was quite bold. It was one of few DTV's that didn't have a triumphant ending. Sure, Red Hood was defeated, and in the end, if given a choice to try to save either Todd or Joker from an explosion (that Todd himself set up), Batman did choose Todd. But whether Todd is dead or alive is unknown, and he's still out there, intent on his brand of justice. The final bit had some awkwardness to it, but at the same time was also a bit of a risk to underscore the tragedy of it. Which is what the story was, despite the butt-kicking. The only awkward hint to it is that it seemed abrupt. But the more I thought about it, the more I got it.
 
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(This was so long my review had to be chopped in two posts!) :wow:

As a side note, I always am unintentionally amused that a mental institution like Arkham, which in theory is supposed to be an area in which it is a psych ward where inmates/patients are supposed to be given therapy to become sane members of society, gives a guy dressed in a bat suit free reign of the place. "Wesker, you have to let go of your Scarface persona. Why can't you be like that perfectly rational man who dresses like a bat and wears underoos in broad daylight, throws metal objects at muggers and dons children in the same pants-less outfits?" It's an amusement of most superhero fiction, but I can't help but have it pop up here.

This isn't my favorite DTV of the set but it does redeem the solo Batman projects, as well as show that one can be made without Conroy or Hamill as the stars. It also shows that not all of them will be sheer adrenaline affairs where the good guys always win. By the same token, it also sets quite a standard for action that doesn't rely on super human feats of power or punching people through planets or energy blasts. It's a piece that isn't without it's flaws, but is still a piece that is successful when it counts; the end. I can forgive a first or second act that isn't perfect if stuff gets into gear for the third, and I think that is true of most people. A stumble out of the gate or an awkward running technique doesn't matter if the race is still won at the end. I'm glad that Greenwood gets to reprise his role as Batman in "YOUNG JUSTICE" and if DiMaggio becomes a de-facto Joker without Hamill, that wouldn't be so bad, either. If I had to give this feature a grade, it'd be a B+, maybe an A- if I was being generous. I think WB has to realize that the same "children" that they feel they are protecting with some restraint on PG-13 animation are the same "children" who see far worse violence in live action film, TV crime procedure shows, video games, anime, and wrestling, and who spend much of their time slaughtering their peers in HALO screaming more obscenities into a mic than in Kevin Smith's entire library of film. They won't be traumatized by an animated fat lip. WB are trying to market these more for adults and teenagers than children, so just commit fully to that audience a tad more. Still, though, it's a worthy purchase for any animation or Bat-fan.

May as well mention the other features. The ten minute "JONAH HEX" short was actually better than I expected, and better than The Specter short that came with the last release. It utilized the time well, without seeming too slow or too fast for what is, basically, half a TV episode. Thomas Jane was a solid voice for Hex, and I'm glad he got to play Hex here and not live action. Like Specter, though, the theme at the end seemed to be that the worst villain is always a woman, who deserves no more sympathy than any bad man (if anything, she gets less). Which is either an overdue case of real gender equality, or a bit of unintentional revelations about writers' issues with women, depending. Considering it is a Western, and considering it is Hex, it does fit the tone. The animation was quite good, and apparently WB is more willing to have buckets of blood in a short than in a feature.

The "sneak peak at SUPERMAN/BATMAN: APOCALYPSE" really is that; a sneak peak. There's not much test footage and very few images of character design art. A few storyboards and one finished design of Batman are shown, but most of it is talking about the story it is based on, as well as the voice talent lined up. It's a sequel to SUPERMAN/BATMAN: PUBLIC ENEMIES, in that it stars Tim Daly and Kevin Conroy, and is based on the second arc of the same run of WORLD'S FINEST, written by Jeph Loeb. It shows a lot of Michael Turner art for the film, and the character designs supposedly are partly based on it. It confirms that it is the tale of Kal's cousin coming to earth, Batman being suspicious, Wonder Woman becoming her mentor, and Darkseid being the main villain. Yes, Wonder Woman IS in this film, so fans needn't fear she is getting the shaft. In fact I would argue that technically, WW has gotten more play in these DTV's and in DC animation overall than the Flash has within the last decade (Flash was in THE BATMAN, but Diana was in more episodes of JLU overall, so it cancels). To be honest, it doesn't look as good as RED HOOD was, but it's based on a Jeph Loeb story; at BEST, it'll be fun popcorn fluff. I have to say, Darkseid's new voice actor is sounding interesting, and this is from someone who thought he'd really miss Michael Ironside. Looks like it'll be the same as the last Superman/Batman film; entertaining, and probably more fun than WB's live action hero department manages.

Overall, I was satisfied with my purchase, and this probably will get watched more often than SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY, GREEN LANTERN: FIRST FLIGHT or even SUPERMAN/BATMAN: PUBLIC ENEMIES. The only DTV I haven't seen is WONDER WOMAN, because I was never interested in her enough for even a $6 rental. Does that make me sexist?
 
I enjoyed it overall, but tell me, am I crazy for thinking John DiMaggio's Joker sounded like a fusion of Mark Hamill's Joker and Jack Nicholson's Joker?
 
I enjoyed it overall, but tell me, am I crazy for thinking John DiMaggio's Joker sounded like a fusion of Mark Hamill's Joker and Jack Nicholson's Joker?

Yeah, it seemed like he was channeling a bit Hamill in his voice work.
 
Great Review DREAD i agree with it 100%.
 
This Joker would've been much better if he did a bit of the sophisticated tone to his speech.
 
So, on the subject of Batman...I tried watching Mask of the Phantasm...and i'm sorry to say I can't stand the film anymore. :( It's the animation...I hate the animation. It looks so old and rough.
 
So, on the subject of Batman...I tried watching Mask of the Phantasm...and i'm sorry to say I can't stand the film anymore. :( It's the animation...I hate the animation. It looks so old and rough.

:wow:

If you hate the animation in MOTP, then you must loathe BTAS?
 
:wow:

If you hate the animation in MOTP, then you must loathe BTAS?

Yes...but ONLY up until the art change, to the art style that is more familiar to Justice League and the like.
 
Got it in the mail yesterday and watched it last night. Just a flat out amazing animated movie. The preview for Superman/Batman Apocalypse looks awesome as well.

My only little beef was with Joker. He had a great laugh… I mean REALLY good, but I was not digging on the spoken lines as much. It was not “horrible” but to me it was the one minor weak link. Ehhh who knows, maybe it will grow on me after a couple more times watching it.
 
I've watch Mask of the Phantasm, Batman (1989), Batman Returns Batman Begins and Batman: Under the Red Hood...so having done that, I'd say Under the Red Hood is really great and even stands out amongst those films. It did something I've wanted to see from a Batman film; drop you right into the story. I'd really like to see a live-action film approach Batman in a similar fashion to Under the Red Hood. Batman is not a character who needs a love interest or the team from Law and Order to make him watchable. I really appreciated the brutality and bluntness of this feature.
 
Got it in the mail yesterday and watched it last night. Just a flat out amazing animated movie. The preview for Superman/Batman Apocalypse looks awesome as well.

My only little beef was with Joker. He had a great laugh… I mean REALLY good, but I was not digging on the spoken lines as much. It was not “horrible” but to me it was the one minor weak link. Ehhh who knows, maybe it will grow on me after a couple more times watching it.


I felt it fit the look of the Joker in this film. He looked older and the voice really matched that. Had he looked closer to the animated series...then I wouldn't have liked the voice.
 
Yes...but ONLY up until the art change, to the art style that is more familiar to Justice League and the like.

So you only like the Season 4 episodes, when Tim Drake and Batgirl become regular players in the episodes?

I've watch Mask of the Phantasm, Batman (1989), Batman Returns Batman Begins and Batman: Under the Red Hood...so having done that, I'd say Under the Red Hood is really great and even stands out amongst those films.

I agree. It's my second favorite Batman movie now after TDK.
 
Just bought it today, plan on watching it later.
 
Yes...but ONLY up until the art change, to the art style that is more familiar to Justice League and the like.

So then you dislike all of BTAS because the art change represented another show, which was The New Batman Adventures.

So you only like the Season 4 episodes, when Tim Drake and Batgirl become regular players in the episodes?

It's a little confusing, but that wasn't season 4 of BTAS. That was TNBA, which was composed of two seasons. There were four seasons of BTAS, but the last two were actually made up of The Adventures of Batman & Robin where Dick Grayson appeared as Robin in every episode.

I think most of the confusion results from WB having released the show on DVD in volume format rather than seasons. But, it would have been very hard to release a season 1 DVD of BTAS without splitting it up due to the first season having 65 episodes.
 
My only little beef was with Joker. He had a great laugh… I mean REALLY good, but I was not digging on the spoken lines as much. It was not “horrible” but to me it was the one minor weak link. Ehhh who knows, maybe it will grow on me after a couple more times watching it.
I was actually pretty underwhelmed with DiMaggio's take on the laugh. His very first scene in the warehouse, my god, one of THE weakest Joker laughs I've ever heard. He got significantly better as the film progressed, but he never hit that peak insanity, which Nicholson/Hamill/Ledger pulled off.
 
This was by far the best animated movie DC has put out to date! It was AMAZING! I could watch this everyday and not get tired of it!
 
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