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Legends of Tomorrow DC's Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 11: "The Magnificent Eight"

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When the team needs a place to hide out, Rip (Arthur Darvill) sets a course for the Old West. Upon arrival, they start a fight with a gang of outlaws, putting the small town in jeopardy. Luckily, an old friend of Rip’s, Jonah Hex (guest star Johnathon Schaech), steps in to save them. Thor Freudenthal directed the episode with story by Greg Berlanti & Marc Guggenheim and teleplay by Marc Guggenheim.



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Really cant wait for this one. Been waiting for it since hex was announced.
 
Jonah Hex is what I've been most excited about this entire season of DC shows. Besides Preacher.
 
The episode is airing tonight in Canada.
 
Oh ****, that ending.
 
The episode is airing tonight in Canada.
yeah to only reasonthat happen is hey have weird split between two hour show of grey anatomy


I'm seeing it now and I saw the fabricator at work it's just like in star trek withthe replicator. and they don't need material from stores to get things need the to make the clothes.
 
I had a grin on my face throughout this Episode. :D
 
I think it was very mediocre, Jonah Hex was ok, but didn't do that much and the uneven tone and goofiness ruined the episode IMO. This recap is spot on:

There's also a severe imbalance of tone in "The Magnificent Eight." Once the Legends don cowboy garb and stroll through the muddy streets of Salvation, they never break out of dress-up mode, with The Atom going as far to put on a corny Southwestern accent and say his name is John Wayne. That makes sense to some degree, considering that other than Rip, who's been here before, the heroes are merely playing dress-up, and if anyone's going to embrace old movie tropes, it's The Atom. But the campiness extends to the episode's production value as well. The guns, boots, and Stetson hats all look like they've been pulled from the costume rack of "Oklahoma!", never weatherbeaten enough to be convincing. Then, when a saloon erupts into an all-out brawl, it's filled with more goofy Western cliches...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...th-western-goofiness-on-the-magnificent-eight

I'm also tired of this characterization of Ray Palmer, the writing doesn't help, but Brandon Routh makes it worse with his cheesy facial expressions, he doesn't know how to be funny while being subtle or ironic, he makes Palmer look like an idiot instead of cool, no wonder he has not become a movie star since Superman Returns.

The ratings are already lower than Arrow's, which means people don't care that much about these characters. I think one of the reasons is that Arthur Darvill is too wooden as Rip, they needed someone with more presence and more charismatic as team leader, same with Vandal, plus undoing things that could've made the series more interesting, like Mick Rory as an enemy, Snart losing his hand... if there are no consequences, then what's the point? Is not good storytelling and it's hurting the show.
 
the funny thing is that I really liked this episode. It really reminded me of Brisco County Jr. I'm sure that no Vandal helped. As for Ray, weirdly enough he's better as the sidekick not the star. I tend to think of Sara and Snart as the leads of ths show. Too bad we couldn't have Jonah Hex actually take over for Rip as leader for a while.
 
I think legends suffers from a lack of understanding the characters they are using.

I don't think any of them have been shown in live action before especially as a main character, so I feel this show was an always will have a first weak season, they didn't know really how the dynamic was going to work, and I still don't think they really do. I still tune in every thursday, and a big advantage too it is if I miss the previous week's episode I'm not lost like I would be in arrow and flash.
 
I didn't care for this episode at all. Way to heavy handed with the cheese and the guy who played Hex was terrible. I'm just not able to get into this show like Arrow, Flash, and Supergirl. I'll stick with it through the rest of the season but if the next season isn't drastically different I think I'll end up skipping this series.
 
Well lets face it the main storyline with them trying to kill Savage is eye rolling to say the least. With some of their powers it would be all to easy Take him down.

Firestorm.. fry him to a crip.. then stab the remains (when they had the dagger)

Snart, freeze him with your gun..

Well now we don't have the dagger.. oh well lets drop him into the sun

Ahh well its been beaten to death.

I admit I was never a BIG DC reader but changing Savages origins just makes me shake my head. And the actor who plays him I just do not like.
Don't get me started on Shiera, from hot to not.



Anyways the episode was ok, nothing great.
 
The best part of the episode was when they cut to Mick passed out at the bar, implying that he couldn't keep up with White Canary as he had boasted.
 
Well lets face it the main storyline with them trying to kill Savage is eye rolling to say the least. With some of their powers it would be all to easy Take him down.

Firestorm.. fry him to a crip.. then stab the remains (when they had the dagger)

Snart, freeze him with your gun..

Well now we don't have the dagger.. oh well lets drop him into the sun

Ahh well its been beaten to death.

I admit I was never a BIG DC reader but changing Savages origins just makes me shake my head. And the actor who plays him I just do not like.
Don't get me started on Shiera, from hot to not.



Anyways the episode was ok, nothing great.


If anything, I feel like the show took a huge misstep by creating a backstory for Vandal, where his point of origin was known, let alone creating the rule that he could be permanently killed by any artifact that was present at the time that the meteor shower.

By introducing the time traveling aspect, the show's producers have made things harder for themselves when it comes to plot holes. They should have given Savage some items or trinkets that prevents him from being frozen or thrown into space so that people wouldn't ask on why doesn't the members do that in the first place.

They should have also established on what the time masters do in the first place and what is it that they normally protect time from.
 
It was a so-so episode.
I really was looking forward to seeing Hex, but they didn't give him enough to do.
And everything seem to wrap up rather quickly.
Would have been better as a 2-part episode.

Did get a big SMILE when Ray called himself "JOHN WAYNE".
JW is one of my All-Time Favorite actors.

Also named dropped was "Hannibal Hawks" better known in the DC Western lore as
NIGHTHAWK.
In Geoff Johns HAWKMAN series he reveal that one of the pasted lives of Hawkman and Hawkgirl was Nighthawk and Cinnamom.
 
I thought it was a realy fun episode.
 
Had noone seen Django Unchained? They make an 50s episode and try to play serious with racial diversity, yet we have a Wild West episode where black people can just enter a saloon?

Okay, maybe i'm not experienced enough with American history and perhaps the location was on the north side, but still some consistency with tones would have helped?

Anyhow, Jonah Hex was wunderbar! I'd like to see more of him.
 
Doing this episode must have been hugely fun for the actors. They all look like they're having a great time. Jonah Hex had a nice debut and had some interesting shared history with Rip. The whole team getting involved in various Wild West shenanigans was a lot of fun to watch.
 
If anything, I feel like the show took a huge misstep by creating a backstory for Vandal, where his point of origin was known, let alone creating the rule that he could be permanently killed by any artifact that was present at the time that the meteor shower.

By introducing the time traveling aspect, the show's producers have made things harder for themselves when it comes to plot holes. They should have given Savage some items or trinkets that prevents him from being frozen or thrown into space so that people wouldn't ask on why doesn't the members do that in the first place.

They should have also established on what the time masters do in the first place and what is it that they normally protect time from.

Pretty much this. If I were rewriting the show from scratch. . . okay, if necessary, I'd keep the Egypt origin ( to minimize rewrites ), but I'd have the meteor make him absolutely 100% immortal. He's as unkillable as the Hawks, he just instantly reincarnates into his own body rather than needing a new one. I'd then affirm this in the backstory of the show, by having something like this:

Martin: "So, how do we know Savage can't be killed? I mean, just because you can heal from being stabbed or shot doesn't make you unkillable."

Rip: "Ever heard of a placed called Tunguska?"

Martin: "The site in Russia where a meteor exploded in the atmosphere in 1908, yes."

Rip: "It also was the location of one of Vandal Savage's hideaways. Nicely luxurious and remote. And no, Dr Stein, it wasn't a meteor."

Martin: ". . ."
 
Had noone seen Django Unchained? They make an 50s episode and try to play serious with racial diversity, yet we have a Wild West episode where black people can just enter a saloon?

Okay, maybe i'm not experienced enough with American history and perhaps the location was on the north side, but still some consistency with tones would have helped?

Anyhow, Jonah Hex was wunderbar! I'd like to see more of him.

Actually, depending on the region, this isn't that unrealistic. There were lots of non-white cowboys. Depending on the town, this could be a problem to varying extents, but it was hardly universal "Your not white? String him up!"
 
I thought the West was less racist than the South during those times.
 
Yes, the West had fewer problems for blacks in terms of racial hatred than the South. People in the West were mainly focused on trying to survive the frontier and build lives for themselves, so indulging in unnecessary racial hatred wasn't usually a high priority for most people. Sure, there were racial tensions from time to time, but it was nothing like it was in the South, where racism was firmly ingrained in the culture.
 
Y'all are krehcee. That was a good episode. My favorite part was the nod to H.G. Wells. If Dr. Stein hadn't saved him we would have never gotten The Time Machine and other world changing classics. It's cool that the Legends inadvertently influenced what would be the huge leap in technology we went through in the 20th century. We went from horses to space shuttles and telegraphs to cellular phones in 100 years.
 
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