The Dark Knight Did anyone feel sorry for the Joker at all??

[BruceWayne]

I didn't want to start a new thread, but no one was responding in the Joker's Quotes thread. So merge if needed.

But did anyone at all feel sorry for the Joker at any point in the movie??

There were a few parts/lines that the way Heath played it, I almost felt bad for him. One was when Gamble called him crazy and he was immediately like, "No I'm not...no I am not". The other time was when he was asking for his phone call. And the last was the fake story about his wife. Heath just gave that story so much intensity that it was almost believable. I guess deep down, I'm just naturally sympathetic, but did anyone else feel this way or am I alone?

Thoughts?


PS: And when I say Joker, I mean the character...not Heath...that's another topic all together.

 

[Conebone69]

Uh, no I didnt. I think you just have too much sympathy

 

[Sam18]

Hell no. Dude was a evil ass mofo.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I felt sorry for the cops he murdered.

 

[Aidan2209]

No. He would be laughing at your pity, by the way.

 

[BruceWayne]

Uh, no I didnt. I think you just have too much sympathy

They were just fleeting moments of sympathy where I was just like, "aw". But then he just went back to evil MF mode. But I was just curious if anyone else felt that way about those moments.

 

[Rezzo]

No sympathy for him at all.

 

[DarbyD53]

I understand what you are saying. At one point in the movie, when it was upclose to his eyes, and he was explaining something and it almost made me think of him as the good guy for some reason. It's almost like the normal people of Gotham are the true evil ones, the ones that will sell you out in a heartbeat if it helps them. Though at the end we find out that they do have good in them and aren't the selfish people he thought they would turn into. I'm just rambling now, but yes, I felt sorry for him, but at the same time I know he's the evil murdering clown

 

[TheGlassPrison]

Ya, the story of his wife was sad.
Talking about not having the money for surgery and how all he wanted was for her to know he didn't care about her scars. Of course, he's making up the whole thing, but the delivery of the lines was pretty powerful.

 

[Tree27]

At one point, I felt SOOO bad for him. In the begining, when he's talking to all the gangsers and they start to call him a freak and laugh at him, and talk over him; he looked so paniced and insulted <3

I'm always rooting for the Joker X)
When he was falling off that building, I was like "Nooooooo! My baby!!!"

haha X)
what can I say, I love that freak <3

 

[DesertBat86]

I feel sorry for the guy who got the pencil through his eye

 

[Drizzle]

Hell no I didn't feel sorry for him. Why would you feel sorry for him when he was demanding his phone call anyway? It's not like he wanted to call his mother. He was activating a ****ing BOMB!

 

[super_bik]

I was mostly scared of him, he's pretty evil - I agree that he would probably be laughing at your sympathy (though his insistence that he's not crazy is a little intriguing - sore spot?).

 

[BruceWayne]

Hell no I didn't feel sorry for him. Why would you feel sorry for him when he was demanding his phone call anyway? It's not like he wanted to call his mother. He was activating a ****ing BOMB!

Yea, but I didn't know he was going to activate a bomb the first time I saw it. He seemed to be choking on his words when he was asking for the call.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I feel sorry for the guy who got the pencil through his eye

Why? I'm sure he's been responsible in his lifetime for a number of deaths.

 

[Knives and Lint]

I didn't want to start a new thread, but no one was responding in the Joker's Quotes thread. So merge if needed.

But did anyone at all feel sorry for the Joker at any point in the movie??

There were a few parts/lines that the way Heath played it, I almost felt bad for him. One was when Gamble called him crazy and he was immediately like, "No I'm not...no I am not". The other time was when he was asking for his phone call. And the last was the fake story about his wife. Heath just gave that story so much intensity that it was almost believable. I guess deep down, I'm just naturally sympathetic, but did anyone else feel this way or am I alone?

Thoughts?


PS: And when I say Joker, I mean the character...not Heath...that's another topic all together.

Same here, I'd rather not explain.. (personal)

 

[FireFlys Enigma]

I didn't feel any pity for the Joker or the guy with the pencil in the head. The pencil scene was something I was not expecting. Very cool.

 

[William_C]

I never felt sorry for him. I believed in him a little bit during the interrogation. He's a smooth operator, but no, never felt bad, or sorry for him at all.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Not really, but I kinda got the feeling that Joker has a death wish in this film. He was really trying to get Batman to break his one rule and kill him. He also put his life in the hands of Harvey Dent or should I say chance.

 

[Squidarella]

I'm not sure "sorry," is quite the right word, but...

-the "no, no I'm not," thing when the guy calls him crazy (he's so SERIOUS!)
-the nearly feverish mumbles of, "I want you to do it, I want you to do it, I want you to do it," when he's in front of the batpod (it's so seemingly unconscious)

both made me feel for him some. It's NOT pity, but... it's just sort of realizing that the Joker is far more complex than you might first think...wheels are turning; what's it like inside his head?

That said, the Joker is a force of nature...agent of chaos and all. I think it's these little moments that make him feel more like a man possessed--hurtling along like a mad dog (after a car, hah)...it humanizes him JUST enough to make him ****ING SCARY.

 

[DeaDheaD]

Why feel sorry for him, he lived and blew up half of Gotham City........plus he met Batman

 

[Tsurumaru]

OMG I cant believe Im the only other person to respond who felt sorry for him too! Thanks for starting this thread, my husband and I both felt bad for him at the part where gamble called him crazy, and other parts... maybe its something only people that grew up as "social outcasts" will understand.

 

[BruceWayne]

OMG I cant believe Im the only other person to respond who felt sorry for him too! Thanks for starting this thread, my husband and I both felt bad for him at the part where gamble called him crazy, and other parts... maybe its something only people that grew up as "social outcasts" will understand.

Haha...I don't consider myself a social outcast by any standard. I don't know what it was...there was just something in those moments that made me feel for the guy. He just got defensive and when he asked for the phone call he was choking on his words like he was going to cry or something. It overall just a powerful performance and gave the Joker so much depth.

 

[co2]

He was a very unsympathetic character. That's part of the strategy of not seeing an origin for him so you don't feel any connection with him....boom! there he is in all his evil glory.
Now Harvey Dent...that was the character you were supposed to feel sypaathy for.

 

[Symbiotic]

I felt no sympathy for him. Every blow that Batman gave him was justified.