Did you at any point...

[Chris Wallace]

find yourself rooting for Magneto? I did a little. I mean his approach may have been wrong but as far as the cure goes & what it stood for he was right.

 

[LEX]

Yeah, I did find myself rooting for Magneto at times. I'd be furious, too, if the humans did that (the whole plastic-cure-weapons thing) and I would side with Magneto any day.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Absolutely not. His means were reprehensible. He was becoming that which had persecuted him as a Jew. In essence he was starting to become just like Hitler with his efforts to eradicate humans.

 

[Bullsear]

No. He wanted to kill a bunch of people who he believed were inferior. No matter the good intentions behind it, I don't believe that's ever acceptable.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Yeah, I did find myself rooting for Magneto at times. I'd be furious, too, if the humans did that (the whole plastic-cure-weapons thing) and I would side with Magneto any day.

Yes, but the Cure was not forced upon the mutants, nor was it lethal. Magneto would have used lethal force and has used lethal force to kill humans. How can one call genocide commendable? Magneto of all people should have realized how wrong his actions were.

 

[Dark Beast]

Yes, but the Cure was not forced upon the mutants, nor was it lethal. Magneto would have used lethal force and has used lethal force to kill humans. How can one call genocide commendable? Magneto of all people should have realized how wrong his actions were.

The Bullied became the Bully...

 

[Chris Wallace]

Um, how is turning something into a weapon NOT forcing it upon them?

 

[LEX]

Yes, his methods were wrong, but the homo sapiens in the X-Men movies just pissed me off.

We're talking about the movies, no? In real life, I'd probably wouldn't side with Magneto and go on a killing spree.

 

[Jan Irisi]

Throughout the series, I always viewed Magneto never in terms of black and white, good and evil, but rather shades of gray. There were many times when I said to myself, "You know, he's got a point". Yes, his methods were skewed and his motivations somewhat muddled, but still, as some people have said, that is what sets him apart from the mustache twirling supervillain psychos from other films. He's not only about personal power of glory or greed, he does have a valid point.

 

[LEX]

Throughout the series, I always viewed Magneto never in terms of black and white, good and evil, but rather shades of gray. There were many times when I said to myself, "You know, he's got a point". Yes, his methods were skewed and his motivations somewhat muddled, but still, as some people have said, that is what sets him apart from the mustache twirling supervillain psychos from other films. He's not only about personal power of glory or greed, he does have a valid point.

I concur

 

[Chris Wallace]

The Killing Spree Was Wrong, Yes. But Don't You See Where The Whole Thing Was Headed? Worthington Strapped His Son Down & Was Ready To Shoot Him Up Whether He Wanted It Or Not. Leech Was Being Held Against His Will, While The Antibody He Produced Was Being Loaded Into Guns, In Order To Neutralize Any Mutants Who Were Deemed A Threat. Who Defines Whether Or Not A Mutant Is A Threat? Storm Can Whip Up Tornadoes, She's Not Dangerous? Wolverine's A Killing Machine. Iceman Could Kill You With A Touch If He Wanted To. How Long Before The "cure" Was Implemented Worldwide? This Fear Is What Magneto Was Acting On.

 

[Retroman]

I found mysel rooting for the X-Men. Magneto showed little or no remorse for Mystique and Xavier.

 

[LEX]

If the humans weren't made out to be so bad like Senator Kelly, Stryker, the President (Ducksworth from X3) and the stupid fat guard from X2, I'd probably be rooting for the X-Men.

 

[Dark Beast]

The Killing Spree Was Wrong, Yes. But Don't You See Where The Whole Thing Was Headed? Worthington Strapped His Son Down & Was Ready To Shoot Him Up Whether He Wanted It Or Not. Leech Was Being Held Against His Will, While The Antibody He Produced Was Being Loaded Into Guns, In Order To Neutralize Any Mutants Who Were Deemed A Threat. Who Defines Whether Or Not A Mutant Is A Threat? Storm Can Whip Up Tornadoes, She's Not Dangerous? Wolverine's A Killing Machine. Iceman Could Kill You With A Touch If He Wanted To. How Long Before The "cure" Was Implemented Worldwide? This Fear Is What Magneto Was Acting On.

Indeed, but by acting on his fears he made it possible that it would come true...
By violence, he created what he was fearing for all along... The cure forced on mutants. This understanding, one can only react as: 'What have I done...?'

 

[Chris Wallace]

Throughout the series, I always viewed Magneto never in terms of black and white, good and evil, but rather shades of gray. There were many times when I said to myself, "You know, he's got a point". Yes, his methods were skewed and his motivations somewhat muddled, but still, as some people have said, that is what sets him apart from the mustache twirling supervillain psychos from other films. He's not only about personal power of glory or greed, he does have a valid point.

I'd like to expand on that. The way I see it there are three basic villain mentalities; Evil, misguided, & insane. Evil is Dr. Doom, who does bad things w/bad intentions. Misguided is Magneto, who does bad things w/good intentions. Insane is Carnage, who either can't tell the difference or doesn't care. But Magneto has always been portrayed as misguided & not evil, and I love how the movies stayed true to that all the way through.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I was rooting for Magneto up to the scene where Mystiqe gets cured.

Yeah, the way he left her on the floor naked was cold. But you know him-the cause above all.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Um, how is turning something into a weapon NOT forcing it upon them?

Look, I think it would be more humane to shoot a gun that cures a mutant than trying to blow their face off. The Brotherhood chose to act like uncivilized hooligans so they reaped what they were sewing. Are you young ones taught nowadays not to be held accountable for your actions? The peaceful mutants were not forced to take the cure but keep their powers and be ostracized. Capiche?

 

[LEX]

Do you think Mystique was still working for Magneto, after what he did to her? She did give information on Magneto's hideout to the government. False?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I found mysel rooting for the X-Men. Magneto showed little or no remorse for Mystique and Xavier.

I wouldn't say all that. Sure he felt bad about what happened to them, but I think he was so devoted to his cause that he saw them as casualties of war, (Mystique no longer being a mutant meant she was dead to him) & wanted their sacrifices to mean something.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Indeed, but by acting on his fears he made it possible that it would come true...
By violence, he created what he was fearing for all along... The cure forced on mutants. This understanding, one can only react as: 'What have I done...?'

That is what makes this a worthwhile debate.

 

[Mystique_Lover]

Magneto does have good points my favourite line to date was out of X2 when Nightcrawler said to Mystique "why don't you stay in disguise all the time..."
Mystique replied " because we shouldn't have to."

 

[Chris Wallace]

Do you think Mystique was still working for Magneto, after what he did to her? She did give information on Magneto's hideout to the government. False?

I'm on the fence about that. My wife raised that same argument. But how did Magneto know the camp would be found?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Look, I think it would be more humane to shoot a gun that cures a mutant than trying to blow their face off. The Brotherhood chose to act like uncivilized hooligans so they reaped what they were sewing. Are you young ones taught nowadays not to be held accountable for your actions? The peaceful mutants were not forced to take the cure but keep their powers and be ostracized. Capiche?

1-they could've made plastic tranquilizer darts.
2-no mutant knew about the weaponized form until after it had been used. At least I know what a 12 guage can do to me. The military was armed with the "cure" before any strike had been made against them.
3-As I said before, "peaceful" by whose definition?
4-I ain't that young.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Magneto does have good points my favourite line to date was out of X2 when Nightcrawler said to Mystique "why don't you stay in disguise all the time..."
Mystique replied " because we shouldn't have to."

The whole point of everything she did in service to Magneto.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Magneto does have good points my favourite line to date was out of X2 when Nightcrawler said to Mystique "why don't you stay in disguise all the time..."
Mystique replied " because we shouldn't have to."

But the thing is, and it has been implied in the comics, that Mystique is much older than Magneto, so by that assumption she would have formed that opinion before ever meeting Magneto. I think Magneto, because of his life experience with the Concentration Camps had left him in somewhat of a delusional position. Perhaps due to post-traumatic stress disorder Magneto might be a tad bit mentally unstable which would affect his ability to think rationally. I mean why else, even cured, would they just let Magneto go out in a public place surrounded by humans he despised just to play chess if they didn't deem him somewhat disturbed mentally. Wouldn't you think they's cage a hardened criminal who had caused the death of alot of people even if he was "cured" of his mutant ability?