Discussion: Electronic Cigarettes (E-Cigs)

Discussion in 'SHH Community Forum' started by Dark Sentinel, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    If this was covered in a thread relating to (real) cigarettes, then apologies, but I thought this topic was enough to warrant its own thread.

    With electronic cigarettes (ecigs, vapes, etc.) now widely available in both convenience stores and gas stations, in both disposable and "resmokable" form, I've been wondering what people's opinions are. Have you done the research? Do you approve of not applying the same laws to ecigs as cigarettes? Do you think they're less harmful/safer/healthier/etc.

    I'm trying to transition to e-cigs, not because I want to stop smoking (as a writer, I like to have a cigarette while thinking), but because they just seem like a safer alternative, and so I made that my new year's resolution. I've tried ("sampled" you might say) a few, but the other day I got an ecig called Blu or Blucig, and I gotta say it's actually pretty good. They come in both disposable and refillable cartridges (I got the disposable, to sample it) and it's very satisfying flavor-wise. There's even a fricking commercial for it!

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    So what are your thoughts? As the thread title suggests, discuss :woot:
     
  2. Marvolo Registered

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    I quit regular cigs but found that I still need something to do with my hands when I am drinking if I dont keep them busy I end up smoking. Only happens when Im drinking. I get that thought "one cigarette wont hurt". But then it becomes a pack in two hours and im coughing and hacking the next day. Ive considered checking these out for when I'm drinking with friends. My buddy has also looked into these.
     
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  3. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    Same here with me. That and (what follows might not be appropriate for our younger posters, therefore I will put this in both SPOILER tags and BLACKOUT, for their consideration)

    [BLACKOUT]I've found that "analog" (i.e. traditional tobacco) cigarettes actually dampen my high when I smoke cannabis[/BLACKOUT]

    So transitioning to this purer, water/liquid based vaping system will probably be more beneficial in the long run, especially as the technology develops.

    That, and we won't have the cigarettes like in the Fifth Element
    [​IMG]

    :hehe:
     
  4. Marvolo Registered

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    Lol those fifth element filters are crazy.
     
  5. Specter313 Ghost of all things X

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    I've never been a smoker, but I have several coworkers and friends who have all switched over to a e-cig, and they love it. Most of them already feel healthier, and one's mother who did the same said her doctor is thrilled with how much healthier she has gotten as well, she suffered from emphysema, and it's gone now. There's no reason to need to regulate it by law either since it's nothing but vapor. And the one's that most of the people I know use are actually refillable with different flavored "juices" that when smoked actually taste really good from what I've been told, and smell interesting as well to those around the smoker, so they don't have to deal with the secondhand stuff either. If you can do it, go for it.
     
  6. knowsbleed Registered

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    I've been on e-cigs since late 2009. I can recommend lots of good websites where you can order them if you'd like. Just PM me. Don't trust the kiosks in the malls to buy them. They're a great place to sample the different flavors but you can save a lot of money just buying them online yourself.
     
  7. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    I got a Blu disposable the other day at Walgreens, and I love it. I'm seriously considering getting the starter pack. I mean, even the disposable cig, the disposable one, is just fracking sexy. The blue light on the end, I'm just saying, it's very classy.

    Also, I keep hearing references to the glycol fluid in the cartomizers being called "e-juice" or "e-liquids"...maybe it's a bit nitpicky, but vapejuice sounds much more accurate, would anyone disagree?
     
  8. Hotwire Dealin' W/ Demons

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    Since it still delivers nicotine, a very highly addictive drug, into your system, it needs to be regulated.
     
  9. Marvolo Registered

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    Cool ill PM if I decide to try them out.:)

    How long does an e-cig usually last, and is there a preferred brand?
     
  10. knowsbleed Registered

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    Some terminology

    PV - Personal Vaporizer
    Vaping - "smoking" a PV
    e-liquid - The liquid nicotine that you vape
    PG/VG - Propylene glycol and vegetable glycol. This is what actually creates the vapor in e-liquids and a combination of the two is usually found in most of them

    More to come once I think of them.
     
  11. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    If you want to "sample" a few brands' disposable ecigs from convenience stores (Walgreens, etc.), they generally last you about 2 packs, depending on how long you drag.

    There are more legitimate "vaporizers" out there that are huge and cumbersome, but for someone who wants the "traditional" experience, me personally I've found Blu to be the best. There was another brand I tried called Finiti that claimed to last 2 packs (and I'm a "shortdragger" or "shortpuffer" if you will :cwink:) and it ran out the next day. I've had the Blu disposable for two days now and the smoke's still thick and the ember's still bright blue. Just my opinion, but maybe knowsbleed knows a bit more.
     
  12. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    Exactly what I'm saying, all the terminology is centered around the "vape/vapor/vaporizer" pattern, e-liquid just doesn't fit. Idk, I like some consistency in my terminologies. :hehe:
     
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    That's how we all start, vaping the e-cigs that look more like a traditional cigarette. But eventually, almost all of us move onto e-cigs that are better quality and deliver a better vaping experience. The battery power and the atomizer are the key elements and the better the quality the better the experience.

    Agreed, but e-cigs are not meant for people who want to start smoking... they are meant as an alternative to those who already smoke. The chemical content of a cigarette compared to that in e-liquid is astonishing... a 1000x more chemicals in a traditional cigarette vs the handful that is in e-liquid.

    E-cigs have makes and models, the higher quality build, the longer they will last. Almost all products from Joyetech are very good and are excellent beginner e-cigs.
     
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    Trust me, we all go through the beginning phases where we want our e-cigs to look like a traditional cigarette (we call them analog cigarettes), but if you stick with it, you'll eventually start experimenting with performance over traditional cigarette aesthetics.
     
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    Won't argue with you there, but I don't plan on vaping in that respect..I like the cigarette experience, so for my money and what I want, blue is just all around "my" preferred ecig. My grandmother left me an MV Pro ecig that is (supposedly) premium quality, but the vapor tasted flat and I honestly didn't enjoy it. Blu on the other hand, I'm already a fan of.

    Exactly. And even if ecigs gain a foothold in the market, and dare I say begin to dominate the market, there are still going to be restrictions on the activity itself because of the "mature" nature that's inherent in said activity. I personally wouldn't want to see high schoolers puffing on ecigs just because they're "less dangerous" than analog cigarettes.
     
  16. enterthemadness The Triumvirate

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    Whenever I get on my feet and move out of house...or in least making money, I plan on going back to smoking, and considering blu cigs. Should I be smoking? No, but I want to. Should Tobacco be outlawed? I'm a Libertarian, so to hell with laws banning stuff imho.
     
  17. Dark Sentinel Registered

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    Who knows, there may come a day when the "vaporizer" (meaning [BLACKOUT]cannabis vaporizer[/BLACKOUT]) comes in a similar package to ecigs, although you could still put the [BLACKOUT]cannabis[/BLACKOUT] itself into the "cartridge" and the atomizer would do the rest of the work :hehe:
     
  18. knowsbleed Registered

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    Oh, there have already been "experiments". Not by me personally, but they are out there.
     
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    I believe it. They're just waiting for the rest of the country to follow CO and WA :cwink:

    But I don't want to digress the topic.. It's ecigs we're talking about, not ejoints :hehe:
     
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    Cigars, and Vapes ftw.
     
  21. Zatanna Mistress of Magic

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    My mom quit smoking with the help of E-Cigs. :up:
     
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    DS... and those who want to just watch an entertaining and informative video about stepping up to the next level.



    Grimm Green is an awesome and established reviewer in the vaping community. I usually check out his videos to see what I want to buy next.
     
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    Igetcha69 is a very informative reviewer on youtube. He reviews and rates various e-cig products. He breaks down the different parts of the products he's reviewing and is very straightforward about what is good and what is bad about each of them.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/igetcha69
     
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    So an interesting thing just happened...

    I was at the Starbucks by my house (which I go to somewhat regularly) and was enjoying my Blu cig while looking for literary agents to query, when all of a sudden the barista leans over the counter and says "even though it's an electronic cigarette, we can't allow you to smoke in the store. It's company policy."

    What??

    Seriously, because I chose to switch to a healthier version of an activity I enjoy, not just for my own benefit but for the benefit of others, I am still discriminated against?

    The other Starbucks I've gone to have no problem with ecigs whatsoever, this just burns my ass.
     
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    Well, you have to look at it from their standpoint. They are the ones who have to put up with other customers coming up to them complaining about you "smoking" in their establishment. It's just easier to lump you in with the "smokers" and not have to deal with it at all. Even though it's an e-cig, I always smoke outside unless I know the bar owner/owner of the establishment.
     

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