Discussion: Gay Rights VII

[Bat-Mite]

She's definitely been taking lessons from Carrie Prejean.

 

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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]356217[/split]

 

[Marx]

New thread time!

 

[AndThePickles]

The Bible says all sins are equal, and everyone is a sinner, therefore there is no basis for considering gays more sinful than straights.

Their fixation with homosexuality is completely hypocritical and smacks of them scapegoating one sin that conveniently doesn't apply to them to distract attention away from their own affairs, lies, and thievery from the pockets of their gullible followers.

If more churchgoers would actually do some research on what they're blindly preaching, they would also know that most of the "rules" in the Old Testament were not based on God's word, they were based on separating themselves from every culture that wasn't Jewish at the time, and that was based on establishing hundreds of laws, which are all listed in Leviticus. Homosexuality is listed in that regard as "unclean," just like eating pork or menstruating was unclean.

 

[Marx]

A new thread means another new poll! The subject of LGBT's parenting children has been a source of contention from time to time in these threads. The new poll deals with that subject specifically. Please be sure to vote!

 

[Marx]

If more churchgoers would actually do some research on what they're blindly preaching, they would also know that most of the "rules" in the Old Testament were not based on God's word, they were based on separating themselves from every culture that wasn't Jewish at the time, and that was based on establishing hundreds of laws, which are all listed in Leviticus. Homosexuality is listed in that regard as "unclean," just like eating pork or menstruating was unclean.

This.

 

[wiegeabo]

But that would require them to do actual work and expend thought, rather than just blindly listening to someone else summing up everything in a way they want to hear.

 

[Marx]

That's true Wieg.

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: SPERM DONOR LOSES COURT CASE TO STAY ON CHILD'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_...r_Loses_Fight_to_Remain_on_Birth_Certificate/

 

[Marx]

CAMPAIGN ORGANIZER FOR MICHELE BACHMANN TIED TO UGANDAN "KILL THE GAYS" BACKER
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_...nizer_Tied_to_Kill_the_Gays_Backer_in_Uganda/

Why am I not surprised by this?

 

[Schlosser85]

I'll wait with baited breath for her to publicly distance herself from this....or not.

The Americans supporting the Ugandan "kill the gays" bill should be treated the same as Americans supporting terrorism.

 

[wiegeabo]

Don't you know it's ok as long as the terrorism isn't pointed at us?

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Really?

This is why I have no faith in humankind. Well one of the many, many reasons.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/flashback-rick-perry-supports-criminalizing-gay-sex

Dan Hirschhorn reports that former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Penn.) is continuing to hammer likely GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry on gay marriage—even after the Texas governor announced that he would support an effort to ban gay marriage nationwide:

"When someone who is a serious candidate for president is doing things that will be destructive not just for the Republican Party, but for the country, I'm going to point that out any chance I get," Santorum told POLITICO.

Santorum is upset, or at least pretend campaign-upset, that Perry told Colorado GOPers in July that New York's decision to legalize gay marriage was their right. "That's New York, and that's their business, and that's fine with me.”

But next to Santorum, Perry might be the least lgbt-friendly candidate in the race. More so than former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who warns we face an existential threat from "gay and secular fascism"; more so, even, than Rep. Michele Bachmann, who once feared that the Lion King would corrupt children because its soundtrack was created by Elton John.

So what exactly has Perry done? Well, for one, he is (still) a supporter of the Texas "homosexual conduct" statute, an archaic law that made it a crime for two consulting, unrelated adults to have sex if they were of the same gender. The law was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in the landmark 2002 case Lawrence v. Texas, but, despite repeated efforts, Texas has yet to formally repeal the statute. When Perry was asked about the Lawrence case in 2002, he defended the anti-sodomy statute: "I think our law is appropriate that we have on the books." He wrote about the case in his 2011 book Fed Up, too, citing the Lawrence decision as the product of "nine oligarchs in robes" and an example of what's wrong with our judicial system. And last spring, when Perry ran for his third full term as governor, he did so on a state GOP platform that exlicitly stated "we oppose the legalization of sodomy."

The irony is that the Lawrence case was the impetus for Santorum's famous comparison of gay sex to "man on dog" relations—which, in turn, was the impetus for Santorum becoming, well, "santorum." He can try to carve out some space to the right of Rick Perry on this issue, but there's really not that much room.

 

[Schlosser85]

Doesn't this belong in the gay rights thread?

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Possibly...

 

[8wid]

He needs to go represent a country in Africa if he wants to do that. It already is illegal in many republics there.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Shocker, not to bad talk Africa, but if there is another country more backwards than the US, it would have to be there. So many split factions, governments that are overthrown and on and on.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Merging

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Damn you hippies! jk

 

[Marx]

I'll wait with baited breath for her to publicly distance herself from this....or not.

The Americans supporting the Ugandan "kill the gays" bill should be treated the same as Americans supporting terrorism.

She has yet to even acknowledge the suicide problem in her own district. It'll be a cold day in hell before she distances herself from this. Truth be told, she probably supports the "kill the gays" bill herself.

 

[Paradoxium]

Perry flipped flopped on the gay marriage thing no?

Santorum is irritating as hell. He is so stereotypical of a zealot neocon.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Well, Perry has a point. Most Republicans consider gay sex a crime, because of the outrageous prices they have to pay for it.

 

[Marx]

Well, Perry has a point. Most Republicans consider gay sex a crime, because of the outrageous prices they have to pay for it.

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: JON STEWART TAKES ON RICK SANTORUM OVER GAY MARRIAGE
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_..._Rick_Santorum_s_Fear_of_Mislabeling_Napkins/

 

[wiegeabo]

Well, Perry has a point. Most Republicans consider gay sex a crime, because of the outrageous prices they have to pay for it.

You'd think, being Republicans, they'd know deregulation brings prices down