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Nate Silver is a right wing tech bro with a massive gambling addiction. Anything outside of math should be discarded, and with his gambling problem, even that should have some scepticism.

EDIT: Oh, Silver has a 49% chance of Trump winning the national vote. LOL
 
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Sithborg said:
Nate Silver is a right wing tech bro with a massive gambling addiction. Anything outside of math should be discarded, and with his gambling problem, even that should have some scepticism.

EDIT: Oh, Silver has a 49% chance of Trump winning the national vote. LOL
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As a pundit he really embarrassed himself during the early years of Covid19.

Moreover now he has two big conflicts of interest: 1) He’s employed by a gambling website Polymarket and telling people how to bet 2) That gambling website is owned/invested in by Trump supporter and JD Vance financier Peter Thiel.

www.independent.co.uk

Peter Thiel, eccentric billionaire, says he is thinking about leaving the US

Thiel compared California liberalism to Saudi Arabian Wahabbism — but it was sort of a compliment
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www.huffpost.com

McConnell Warns It'd Be 'Politically Beyond Stupid' To Shut Down Government Before Election

The Senate minority leader said Republicans would "certainly" get the blame for it.
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Speaking to reporters inside the U.S. Capitol, McConnell warned that his party would be held responsible in the event that the government shuts down, suggesting Republicans could draw backlash from voters in November.

"My only observation about this whole discussion is the one thing you cannot have is a government shutdown," he said. "It would be politically beyond stupid for us to do that right before the election, because certainly we'd get the blame."

"I'm for whatever avoids a government shutdown and that'll ultimately end up obviously being a discussion between the [Senate] Democratic leader and the speaker of the House," McConnell continued.
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blueharvest said:
www.theguardian.com

‘I know the dangers of a Trump presidency’: Palestinian solidarity groups pressure Harris as election looms

Activists are tentative in supporting Democrats without an arms embargo and ceasefire in Gaza
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What are the chances that, should Madame VP win the presidency, they’ll shut up and crawl back into the hole they crawled out of? FDJT would let Bibi bomb Gaza off the map— that should be the main reason he should not be re-elected.

They’re doing nothing but causing electoral chaos right now.
 
www.rawstory.com

Ohio MAGA candidate Bernie Moreno calls for deporting Springfield immigrants

Terroristic threats continued against Springfield officials and public buildings over the weekend and into Monday. In the midst of them, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Bernie Moreno called for the protected status of legal Haitian migrants in Springfield to be revoked and for them to be...
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Oh look, another immigrant like Musk willing to lie, gin up hate, and abuse other immigrants in order to advance himself. Moreno is from Colombia.
 
MagnarTheGreat said:
How the Trump Campaign Ran With Rumors About Pet-Eating Migrants—After Being Told They Weren’t True
Springfield, Ohio, city officials were contacted by Vance’s team and said the claims were baseless. It didn’t matter and now the town is in chaos.

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Trump definitely believes in the "any publicity is good publicity" mantra
He sounds insane, but in his mind, at least everyone's been talking about him and only him again for the past week
which is an improvement, in his calculations, from when everyone was talking about Kamala for the past month

As stupid as that story is, and as much danger as it's bringing to the city of Springfield, the best thing to do is ignore it and go back to talking about Harris and Walz

MagnarTheGreat said:
www.rawstory.com

Ohio MAGA candidate Bernie Moreno calls for deporting Springfield immigrants

Terroristic threats continued against Springfield officials and public buildings over the weekend and into Monday. In the midst of them, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Bernie Moreno called for the protected status of legal Haitian migrants in Springfield to be revoked and for them to be...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com

Oh look, another immigrant like Musk willing to lie, gin up hate, and abuse other immigrants in order to advance himself. Moreno is from Colombia.
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"I got mine, so f*** all those people"
Far too common in a lot of the Latino groups supporting Trump
My brother in law is Cuban, and I'm reminded often of how little unity there is between different groups of latinos, they all talk so much s*** about each other
 
BoredGuy said:
Trump definitely believes in the "any publicity is good publicity" mantra
He sounds insane, but in his mind, at least everyone's been talking about him and only him again for the past week
which is an improvement, in his calculations, from when everyone was talking about Kamala for the past month

As stupid as that story is, and as much danger as it's bringing to the city of Springfield, the best thing to do is ignore it and go back to talking about Harris and Walz



"I got mine, so f*** all those people"
Far too common in a lot of the Latino groups supporting Trump
My brother in law is Cuban, and I'm reminded often of how little unity there is between different groups of latinos, they all talk so much s*** about each other
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There's truth to both of your statements. My mom's side of the family is from Mexico (father is Irish, but he never looked twice at a white woman LOL) so I grew up in that culture in SoCal and it's definitely not a monolithic group. My father worked for CalTrans, was a union steward, and pretty progressive, but there was a very strong, conservative, religious strain in the community. There was also a lot of pride in our heritage, but it took a lot of different directions politically and many had that "we have to be careful who we let in because most of 'them' might screw things up for everybody".

Not to overgeneralize, but the Cuban culture is a completely different ball of spilled milk. I started to date one of my high school classmates who was Cuban......until her brothers met me. I wasn't good enough for her, came to the conclusion that I wanted to live, and decided the "relationship" should be put on indefinite hold. VERY conservative and just as scary.

While Trump likes any attention and it does put him in the spotlight, I don't know that this stuff is helping him in an environment where just about everyone has made up their minds. His waffling on abortion could easily hurt him; not so much by having people vote for Harris, but by slightly depressing his own turnout. We'll see, but I don't see a lot of Harris supporters jumping over to Trump without some significant issue hitting the fan (mainly thinking Gaza or Russia incidents).
 
InCali said:
While Trump likes any attention and it does put him in the spotlight, I don't know that this stuff is helping him in an environment where just about everyone has made up their minds. His waffling on abortion could easily hurt him; not so much by having people vote for Harris, but by slightly depressing his own turnout. We'll see, but I don't see a lot of Harris supporters jumping over to Trump without some significant issue hitting the fan (mainly thinking Gaza or Russia incidents).
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Yeah, I don't see any Harris supporters jumping ship because of it.

But I feel like him being out of the spotlight for a few weeks was helping to demoralize him, and more importantly his base, including the neo-nazis who started questioning his campaign. But now they might be re-energized with him getting attention for a new racist conspiracy.

Anything we can do to make his campaign fizzle is a positive
 
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