🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

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Everyday that goes by, Biden and Kamala ruin the enthusiasm people had for her. Biden with his war crimes, Kamala signaling she was to **** with labor again. If she loses, can't wait to see who gets the blame.
 
The only poll that counts is the one on election day
 
Ironfan72 said:
Literally the owner of the company i currently work for which is a small manufacturing company of 10 employees says Trump is incredible for business', saying he was the best president for business, even if i showed him that chart he would dismiss it as liberal fearmongering
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Tariffs tanking the economy? Liberal fear mongering.

Project 2025? Liberal fear mongering.

National abortion ban? Liberal fear mongering.

:whatever:
 
Superhero 101 said:
Donald Trump takes lead in Michigan: new poll :grimace:
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Remember.....look at the trends. Most polls have her up slightly, but it's close enough either way to be a coin flip. If a Trump lead continues to show up, then there may be something there.

Also, I have a theory and, to be clear, it's just that.....a hunch. I think it's entirely possible Harris is polling worse than the polls show and here's why. The Dem senators in swing states (PA, NV, AZ, MI, and WI) are generally outpolling Harris. Now, there could be a lot of reasons for this, but I think it reasonable to assume that a lot of former Trump voters are willing to say they'll vote for a Dem in the senate because it isn't a direct vote against Trump. These same people are concerned about publicly admitting that they are voting against Trump because of social pressure and possible ostracizing by neighbors, friends, and even family.
 
What questions are pollsters asking first because I read suspicions they ask the presidential question first and then people (especially Trump people) hang up/end the call before the other questions which could skew the poll for Senate and other contests to be more favorable to Dems.
 
The other problem with phone polling is you’re not reaching people who work for a living. Those calls generally go missed, so even though many pollsters ‘correct’ for demographics and all that afterwards it’s a flaw in the system. Instead you get the most eager and available respondents.
 
MagnarTheGreat said:
What questions are pollsters asking first because I read suspicions they ask the presidential question first and then people (especially Trump people) hang up/end the call before the other questions which could skew the poll for Senate and other contests to be more favorable to Dems.
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Interesting. I could see that.
 
MagnarTheGreat said:
The other problem with phone polling is you’re not reaching people who work for a living. Those calls generally go missed, so even though many pollsters ‘correct’ for demographics and all that afterwards it’s a flaw in the system. Instead you get the most eager and available respondents.
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Polling has a morass of problems. Anytime you get someone who is willing to take the time to do a survey, you're looking at a group that is probably non-representative of a consistent voter and then you have to try and figure out "How" likely someone is to vote and weight that....ughhh.....If it's a marketing survey, it's a little different because you don't have to be so precise. If you've got 25% of people who use a certain product you want to offer, hey, you don't care whether it's 27 or 23% (this is, of course, and oversimplification for the sake of illustration). .

The details of election polling is enough to make anyone's head spin and the proof is that they are often inaccurate and within the margin of error is considered "good".....even if you are wrong about the winner. LOL
 

Minnesota [Failed NBA player and] GOP Senate candidate: ‘The bad guys won in WWII’​


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Minnesota GOP Senate candidate: ‘The bad guys won in WWII’

As the control of the Senate hangs in the balance, GOP candidates across the country are facing a similar problem: Troubling and bizarre past statements, both in-person and on social media, are coming back to haunt them. But in Minnesota, Royce White is an even more extreme case.
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MagnarTheGreat said:

Minnesota [Failed NBA player and] GOP Senate candidate: ‘The bad guys won in WWII’​


heartlandsignal.com

Minnesota GOP Senate candidate: ‘The bad guys won in WWII’

As the control of the Senate hangs in the balance, GOP candidates across the country are facing a similar problem: Troubling and bizarre past statements, both in-person and on social media, are coming back to haunt them. But in Minnesota, Royce White is an even more extreme case.
heartlandsignal.com heartlandsignal.com
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Excuse me....? Did this guy not pay attention in History class?
 
squeekness said:
Excuse me....? Did this guy not pay attention in History class?
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He seems very upset the Democrats won WWII (of course the Soviet Union played a huge part) and we've been living under 'the communism of liberalism' ever since forgetting about the whole Cold War thing and the current enmity between the U.S. and Russia (but not among the far left/right and their leaders).

Guy is an absolute dangerous MAGA freak show.

In one specific interaction from Monday, White told a potential voter to “pull their skirt down” and that “nobody cares about your preferences,” to which the voter replied “f— you then! You just lost my families support.”
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MagnarTheGreat said:

Trump Made Crass Jokes About Death of Rally Attendee in Leaked Recording​


www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Made Crass Dinner Jokes About Death of Rally Attendee

The 12-minute tape, reportedly from a dinner with donors in August, also features Trump launching into an expletive-laden rant against undocumented migrants.
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squeekness said:
He has no class and they love him for it. :(
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Uhhhhh.....folks......he's projecting again. He figures because HIS wife would prefer the check and the pool boy, there are other wives who feel the same and, given the people he runs with, he may also be right about them. :funny:
 
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