OK, look pal. I used the whole "global warming/climate change" line because the people in this thread can't seem to agree on what to call it. I've used it before. Also, I have never changed my arguement. I have never changed my point of view on this matter. I have said time and time again. One of the sides in this arguement has to be wrong, and we will need to follow one side or the other. The problem arises when we finally find out which one is wrong. If the people who say it's real are wrong, and we have followed them, then we'd have a cleaner planet. But, if those who say it's BS are wrong and we've followed them, we'd be screwed.Climates have always changed!!! It's natural!! Even freakish weather happens from time to time! Good Grief!!
That's why you guys changed your argument from "warming" to "change"! You hedge your bets! You had to do it so that you could always be right, no matter which way the temperature went!!
Notice that we aren't even talking about the polar ice caps melting anymore???
Oh really??
World Temperatures according to the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction. Note the steep drop over the last year.
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming
Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.
A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.
Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.
Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.
Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.
Update 2/27: The graph for HadCRUT (above), as well as the linked graphs for RSS and UAH are generated month-to-month; the temperature declines span a full 12 months of data. The linked GISS graph was graphed for the months of January only, due to a limitation in the plotting program. Anthony Watts, who kindly provided the graphics, otherwise has no connection with the column. The views and comments are those of the author only.
Basically......nobody knows what's happening!!!
Exactly, that's like the fifth time that's been posted in this thread alone, and that's about the third time somebody in this thread has pointed out that it's not an erasure of prior warming.
Look, if Global Warming is going to kill Slim could it speed it up a bit?
jag
Play nice jag.
Global Warming's name causes confusion but the extreme climate change phenomenon is real.
Do you know why they change the name? Because biggots and close minded right winged wahoos won't accept it. The Earth is warming period polka dot...hence Global Warming. However, with warming will come cooling, hence Global Climate Change. Either way, it is still bad for usno! It's you guys that seem to keep "calling it what you want". You don't know anything. You keep guessing. You keep changing the names. You split hairs with climate and weather. It's really funny! A bunch of Chicken Littles, the lot of you.
"The sky is frikkin' falling!"
Who wants their summers to go from 95 to 105, have sea levels rise, allow tropical diseases to advance northward, massive animal migrations(the pythons started it), severe and eradic weather patterns, and finally the lovely innevitable Ice Age. Guess what was the precursor for every Ice Age this planet has seen? Global warming from an influx of carbon dioxide from volcanoes, atmospheric disturbances, etc...So guess what is going to happen?
Do you know why they change the name? Because biggots and close minded right winged wahoos won't accept it. The Earth is warming period polka dot...hence Global Warming. However, with warming will come cooling, hence Global Climate Change. Either way, it is still bad for us
, so even though the majority of the scientific community sides with the existence of global warming and the contribution of man to it, you found evidence that disproves this?
