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Infinity War Discussion: How to Incoporate Cmic Acs into The Avengers: Infinity War 1&2

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Some food for thought ...

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I was beginning to wonder about how exactly the storyline was going to play out for the Infinity War movies, much like I'm sure many of you have as well. And, as we've had with every movie since Iron Man in 2008, we've seen touches and elements from the comic storylines we've grown to love ... but it's always an adaptation that works (in the director's vision, anyway) best for the big screen ("MCU"). That's to be expected, of course, so it's not a problem. Still, considering all that, I began to wonder if they were going to use elements of "The Infinity Gauntlet" storyline for Part 1 of Infinity War, and then use the "The Infinity War" comic storyline for Part 2. That's the point where I realized that, at its core, only Gauntlet needed to be adapted to bring us this Thanos story in all its glory; War and Crusade could either be saved for later movies (doubtful) or just left alone altogether (more likely).

So what could we possibly see in these 2 films in a few years? That's the question/discussion I really wanted to pose to the SHH forum community, because it'd be great to get a very specific discussion going on what plot points we either feel (a) are mandatory to be kept intact at all costs or (b) available to occur based on the stories/films that are to come before it takes place.

Below is the list of things, from The Infinity Gauntlet, that I honestly feel are realistic elements from the story that can possibly happen in the MCU version:

*Thanos making half the life in the universe disappear in order to impress Death
*Nebula's revival (should they entertain killing her off in GOTG2)
*Adam Warlock awakening from his cacoon
*Dr. Strange being sought out to explain/resolve what is going on (Warlock also providing much needed exposition in the process)
*A villain fulfilling the "Dr. Doom" role of helping prepare for the war against Thanos (possibly Loki?)
*The real Thor (Thor Odinson) being absent/missing (replaced in the comics, absent in the MCU)
*Shockwave of power from Thanos reaches Earth, and the chaos/aftermath of this event
*Nova joining the fight
*The struggle getting Banner/Hulk to join the cause, even after trust issues developed during AoU & Phase 3
*Possibility of Dr. Strange allowing people to breathe in locations they normally couldn't (i.e. space)
*Thanos being restricted to only using the Power Gem at some point (albeit not by Mephisto coercion, like in the comic)
*Quasar's role (possibly fulfilled by Captain Marvel?)
*Thanos' ease in domainting the battle
*Mephisto (likely from Dr. Strange solo movie) trying to secretly coerce Thanos, and failing to do so
*The removal of his Gaunlet (be it by Nebula, or someone else) and someone else wielding the power
*(Temporary) banishment to deep space of Thanos (possibly leading to his desire to strike back in Part 2 if it occurred early enough and Warlock becomes more of a focus than we expect)
*Thanos agreeing to fight against whoever now wields the Gauntlet, all to acquire it back in his possession
*Time reversion to correct the disappearance of all those lives
*Warlock entering the Soul Gem, trying to stop it by merging with it and/or acquiring the Gauntlet for himself

Those, at least to me, appear to be key points that are plausible with what will "knowingly" take place beforehand in the MCU. I left out a good bit, of course, but there are various things that we are in no way going to see on screen in the MCU (i.e. Silver Surfer, Galactus, Dr. Doom, heavy Celestial involvement, etc.). Some of the points above could be integrated in very interesting ways to accomplish some changing of the guard, not to mention create some transition into more cosmic interaction after Phase 3. For example, a cataclysmic event like the "blinking lives out of existence" can be an interesting way of forcing a new group/team to try and fight Thanos for Part 1 versus what we currently see as "Avengers", and then an even more emotional return when the missing heroes return by the time Part 2 is around. It would also be interesting if Warlock is incoporated in such a big way, but it's something I'm speculative of.

Of course, they could take merely the name of the story alone and pretty much tell their own highly altered tale (much like w/ AoU) on film, and it could be just as successful at satisfying the audience. The question still remains how many elements we'll see from a 20+ year old storyline laced within the story of these films. It's the culmination of 10+ years of build (on screen) and trying to outline the ultimate payoff tale is rather interesting.

Now, allow me to state how obviously aware I am that all of the things I listed won't happen in the MCU version of all this. But I do think, in one way or another, that they're all possible due to ties that will exist with the movies that came before it. Following too strictly to the comics, for example, will have a lot of this taking place in outer space, but the reality we all know is true is that they will find some kind of way for big chunk(s) to take place on Earth. I think it would be somewhat cheesy to force that in too much, but it also may be a bit too much to expect the MCU version of all this to take place so heavily "off earth".

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Thoughts on this food? lol
 
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*Thanos making half the life in the universe disappear in order to impress Death

I can see this.

*Nebula's revival (should they entertain killing her off in GOTG2)

She could be resurrected by Thanos.

*Adam Warlock awakening from his cacoon

I'm pretty sure the cocoon was ripped open in the GOTG post-credits scene, but if it wasn't then it'll happen in GOTG2 fo sho.

*Dr. Strange being sought out to explain/resolve what is going on (Warlock also providing much needed exposition in the process)

I think Doctor Strange will play a major role on Earth in recruiting the heroes and as a force against Thanos, especially if IWP1 will feature a lot of the newer heroes of Phase 3 then he will definitely be in a sort of leadership position.

*A villain fulfilling the "Dr. Doom" role of helping prepare for the war against Thanos (possibly Loki?)

Loki.

*The real Thor (Thor Odinson) being absent/missing (replaced in the comics, absent in the MCU)

If recent rumours are to be believed then Thor will be absent, yeah. Although if Loki is in I can see a scene between them where Loki torments Thor about his inability to act (being hung up in a galactic prison and all).

*Shockwave of power from Thanos reaches Earth, and the chaos/aftermath of this event

This will probably be the "half the universe wiped out" thing.

*Nova joining the fight

Might be character overload and Gunn isn't a fan of him. I think we can do without him.

*The struggle getting Banner/Hulk to join the cause, even after trust issues developed during AoU & Phase 3

Well, there's a persistent rumour that he'll be shot into space at the end of AOU and I'm willing to bet money the GOTG2 post-credits scene is the Collector adding a big, green monster to his collection. So I think he'll be hanging with the Guardians.

*Possibility of Dr. Strange allowing people to breathe in locations they normally couldn't (i.e. space)

Probably.

*Thanos being restricted to only using the Power Gem at some point (albeit not by Mephisto coercion, like in the comic)

I don't think Marvel will want to de-power Thanos at all and instead allow his defeat to be at full power.

*Quasar's role (possibly fulfilled by Captain Marvel?)

I can't remember what Quasar did...

*Thanos' ease in domainting the battle

Of course.

*Mephisto (likely from Dr. Strange solo movie) trying to secretly coerce Thanos, and failing to do so

This is the kind of thing Loki will do.

*The removal of his Gaunlet (be it by Nebula, or someone else) and someone else wielding the power

I think for the movie it will be Captain America who does this, right at the climax. He'll wield the gauntlet and then use the power to destroy the Infinity Stones.

*(Temporary) banishment to deep space of Thanos (possibly leading to his desire to strike back in Part 2 if it occurred early enough and Warlock becomes more of a focus than we expect)

I don't think he'll be banished into deep space, and if he is then it will be at the end of IWP2. But I liked it in the comic where he was banished to a desolated farming(?) planet.

*Thanos agreeing to fight against whoever now wields the Gauntlet, all to
acquire it back in his possession

Nah.

*Time reversion to correct the disappearance of all those lives

Possibly.

*Warlock entering the Soul Gem, trying to stop it by merging with it and/or acquiring the Gauntlet for himself

Possibly.
 
A lot of those could be changed up. For instance I suggested simply using Nova in the Silver Surfer role to work him into the plot.

I'm not actually sure I want them to kill half the universe. My problem with that in the comics was that it instantly sucks any drama out of the story. I can buy him killing some Avengers to make a point of how powerful it is, but once you get to the point where he's literally murered half the population of Earth, destroyed the entire country of Japan, and killed the entire Fantastic Four, there's no drama left because you know no matter what that this will all be magically fixed by the end.

Unless you want Phase 4 to be set in a post-apocalyptic hellscape, the audience immediately knows no matter what this will all be set right via a deus ex machina.
 

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