Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana II

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cmill216, Dec 10, 2010.

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  1. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    How am I a troll? I'm disagreeing with you?! I'm also a she :o
     
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  2. Doctor Evo

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    Women? On MY internets?
     
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  3. Dark Sentinel

    Dark Sentinel Well-Known Member

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    :hehe:

    But Hawkingbird, here's the real issue. You're not looking at the facts. It's ok to disagree if it's your personal belief, I for one will respect that. There are in fact a lot of people who've posted in this thread who don't smoke cannabis and don't encourage such behavior, but if you look at the concrete, scientific facts of cannabis toxicity (next to none for the most part, THC actually ******s cancer cells), addiction (again, next to none, here I will refer you to a NY Times article from 1994 on the subject: http://www.tfy.drugsense.org/tfy/addictvn.htm) and economic benefits of industrial hemp, you'll see that there is a plethora of pros to legalization. Don't just parrot government propaganda, do the research yourself, and if you still disagree on a personal basis, I think you'll find that a lot of people here will respect you for it.
     
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  4. Sun_Down

    Sun_Down Groovy

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    I'm sorry. She is a clearly a troll who posts unfounded and debunked pseudo-science in order to get a rise out of people.

    I doubt anyone here would call marijuana harmless, but linking it to causing schizophrenia is unfounded. The gateway drug theory has been debunked repeatedly. And there is growing research showing that the drug has some benefits.

    You don't have to like it, or the people that use it (I'm not one, by the way), but classifying it in the same schedule as heroin and spending billions on marijuana enforcement is objectively preposterous. Demonizing a relatively safe drug - a drug with zero recorded overdoses - is reckless and wrong. And if you think that prohibition reduces use, you're wrong.

    Does the drug cause a minimal amount of harm to users? Sure. But so what? Fatty, sodium-laced food will kill you. Aspirin will. Too much water will. Marijuana won't. It creates criminals out of otherwise law-abiding citizens and wastes taxpayer money. To prohibit it because of relatively minor health concerns is a ridiculously disproportional response.

    That, ma'am, is why you are a troll.
     
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  5. bkong0

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    In a country where obesity is gradually approaching the 50% mark, it's always a strange argument when people are totally cool with making it illegal to use something that causes minor health problems at best. Seems if you're seriously concerned about health, you'd be cracking down on things that're making half the population obese.

    The most harm that comes from marijuana is the money and lives wasted on jailing people who smoke it, not the effects from actually smoking it.
     
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  6. Anti-Moderator

    Anti-Moderator The Worst Kind

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    That is ALL you need to know in regards to whether marijuana is harmful. The "drug" hasn't ruined lives....it is the man made laws making it illegal that has.
     
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  7. Bathead

    Bathead The Oldest Geek

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    Isn't that pretty much the same as the Prohibition of alcohol and one of the primary reasons for it's repeal? That it created more problems than it solved?
     
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  8. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    Me opposing your views and having arguments that YOU deem invalid (even though they are not), does NOT make me a troll. You calling me a troll makes you a narrow minded bafoon who cannot see the other side of the argument.
     
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  9. Thundercrack85

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    Not all arguments have two valid sides.
     
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  10. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    Yes, they do infact. You're all one minded, so set on your drug that you refuse to see the other side. The truth it you cannot argue your view without taking into account the other person's.
     
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  11. Matt Mortem

    Matt Mortem RIP Hype Forums

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    Having read the last few pages I haven't seen any documented facts to support your argument. Anecdotal evidence does not a good argument make. I personally don't smoke marijuana. I hate the smell and see no point for me to partake. I do, however, support the rights of others should they decide to smoke. Studies have proven time and time again that it's not a life ruining super drug that's going to have all the negative repercussions ascribed to it.
     
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  12. Doctor Evo

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    The holocaust was justified. Aaaaand....go.

    Actually, a lot of the people arguing against you here don't smoke weed. Nice try, though. This rhetorical trick might work against feeble-minded high school students, but it's going to be relatively ineffective against most of us.

    You argue like a petulant fifteen year old. I wonder why?

    So far you haven't backed up your argument beyond saying, "That's just my opinion." Every other attempt you've made has failed miserably and has been countered quite handily.

    Of course, you're welcome to your opinion. The problem is that you've implied that we have no sense because we disagree, even though each of your arguments has been countered with logical reasoning and independent sources.

    You can't say something like that and then back into a corner crying when it bites you in the ass.
     
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  13. wiegeabo

    wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Basically, having an opinion is fine.

    Trying to pass an opinion off as fact is not. Unless there's good evidence to back it up.
     
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  14. enterthemadness

    enterthemadness The Triumvirate

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    wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Hey UN, shut up or we'll start charging you taxes for the land you have in our country.
     
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  16. moraldeficiency

    moraldeficiency Maxwell's Demon

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    Well said.

    I want to like this but I don't believe in hitting women and you just intellectually slapped the hell out of her, so I can't like this.
     
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  17. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    I'm leaving these boards. I've only just realized I'm trying to have a reasonable debate with one minded pot heads.
     
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  18. wiegeabo

    wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Never smoked a day in my life, nor do I ever plan to.

    But if all you're going to do is just make general assumptions, and try passing your opinion off as fact with no foundation to back it up, you won't be missed.
     
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  19. moraldeficiency

    moraldeficiency Maxwell's Demon

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    It's easier to just label others and then cry victim then to actually debate. I would say it's a shame cause I love to hear dissenting opinion but then only when it's backed up by argument and not namecalling. "you're all just stupid potheads and you're mean to me (pout)" isn't really doing anything for me or your argument.
     
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  20. Smashlilman

    Smashlilman Ouch!!!!

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    Same here
     
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  21. Dark Sentinel

    Dark Sentinel Well-Known Member

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    Actually, these "one minded potheads" were reasonably debating your opinions with solid facts to back up their arguments. But you didn't back any of yours up and furthermore kept repeating the same propagandist drivel, like a troll. Therefore you're entirely entitled to abandon the conversation but as wiegeabo said, you will not be missed.
     
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  22. MessiahDecoy123

    MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Here's an excellent letter from Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (L.E.A.P).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ules_n_2165152.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
     
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  23. MessiahDecoy123

    MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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  24. Matt Mortem

    Matt Mortem RIP Hype Forums

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    Well that's horribly offensive.
     
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  25. Sun_Down

    Sun_Down Groovy

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    This made me LOL.
     
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