Discussion: Online Piracy, Net Neutrality, Killswitch, and Other Internet Issues

[The Squirrel]

Yeah, they are pretty much borderline terrorists.

 

[Steyin]

Yeah, they are pretty much borderline terrorists.

No, they are children who only know to DDoS.

 

[DACrowe]

The political climate has become toxic for SOPA and PIPA and in a few months everyone will be in full-on election mode. This is dead in the 112th Congress (the most corporate-friendly to date). It will just fade away, but I wouldn't be surprised if this comes up later.

 

[Lighthouse]

Hollywood Moguls Stopping Obama Donations Because Of President’s Piracy Stand: “Not Give A Dime Anymore”

 

[Boom]

Nobody cares what Hollywood has to say.

 

[Donut]

Hollywood Moguls Stopping Obama Donations Because Of President’s Piracy Stand: “Not Give A Dime Anymore”

So basically Hollywood thought they were bribing him. Which is also illegal

 

[wiegeabo]

No, no. It's not illegal if you call it campaign contributions.

 

[Raiden]

I think it's safe to say that if SOPA passes, Megaupload will only be the first casualty for sites like this, and it won't be the last.

 

[Boom]

YouTube will be one of the first to go.

 

[Paradoxium]

Apple's mind-bogglingly greedy and evil license agreement

I accused Jobs of being technofascist, was mocked. This is the type of culture he fostered. The audacity of this is mind boggling, considering their OS is a derivative of UNIX.

Apple, in this EULA, is claiming a right not just to its software, but to its software’s output. It’s akin to Microsoft trying to restrict what people can do with Word documents, or Adobe declaring that if you use Photoshop to export a JPEG, you can’t freely sell it to Getty. As far as I know, in the consumer software industry, this practice is unprecedented.

The nightmare scenario under this agreement? You create a great work of staggering literary genius that you think you can sell for 5 or 10 bucks per copy. You craft it carefully in iBooks Author. You submit it to Apple. They reject it.

Under this license agreement, you are out of luck. They won’t sell it, and you can’t legally sell it elsewhere. You can give it away, but you can’t sell it. Updated to add: By “it,” I am referring to the book, not the content. The program allows you to export your work as plain text, with all formatting stripped. So you do have the option to take the formatting work you did in iBooks Author, throw it away, and start over. That is a devastating potential limitation for an author/publisher. Outputting as PDF would preserve the formatting, but again the license would appear to prohibit you from selling that work, because it was generated by iBooks Author.

 

[Kane52630]

I'm always anti-Apple so this is nothing new. lol

 

[Paradoxium]

I'm not a hater, I do have to use Apple in my work. But I get annoyed as hell with them. Get way more praise and credit than they deserve.

 

[Paradoxium]

After The Dark Knight Rises, I am done with Warner stuff. I am not giving them a dime for their Superman movie, I hope it tanks. No trades, nothing. Same goes with Marvel comics and its movies, I am most likely skipping Avengers.

I am mainly trying to reconcile books, since there is actual information that I need to digest and use. Quite a few books are from HarperCollins.

It might not make much of a difference, but every little helps.

If this is between Hollywood vs Silicon Valley, I am going with Silicon Valley. They actually produce stuff of more utility towards the world. And frankly a greater enabler and barrier breaker to artist upstarts.

 

[Kane52630]

I'm not a hater, I do have to use Apple in my work. But I get annoyed as hell with them. Get way more praise and credit than they deserve.

Agreed.

 

[Boom]

After The Dark Knight Rises, I am done with Warner stuff. I am not giving them a dime for their Superman movie, I hope it tanks. No trades, nothing. Same goes with Marvel comics and its movies, I am most likely skipping Avengers.

I am mainly trying to reconcile books, since there is actual information that I need to digest and use. Quite a few books are from HarperCollins.

It might not make much of a difference, but every little helps.

If this is between Hollywood vs Silicon Valley, I am going with Silicon Valley. They actually produce stuff of more utility towards the world. And frankly a greater enabler and barrier breaker to artist upstarts.

*Cue deafening applause around the world*

 

[Paradoxium]

Been supporting smaller artists anyways. Like ebooks, I try to use smashbooks or kindle, since a bigger cut go to the authors.

 

[Paradoxium]

There is a (frequently updated) Wikipedia link with all support/against companies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_that_support_the_Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

 

[wiegeabo]

Apple's mind-bogglingly greedy and evil license agreement

I accused Jobs of being technofascist, was mocked. This is the type of culture he fostered. The audacity of this is mind boggling, considering their OS is a derivative of UNIX.

The legality and enforcibility of EULA's is in question now. And companies are really hoping they're not taken to court because they're now being seen as overreaching.

 

[Boom]

We come to it at last.



The great battle of our time.

 

[Kane52630]

I saw this on imgur, it's pretty badass.

http://i.imgur.com/4096B.jpg

 

[Donut]

ESA drops support for SOPA

http://www.playerattack.com/news/2012/01/20/esa-drops-support-for-sopa/

 

[Raiden]

I hope they won't go after bit torrent next.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

So basically Hollywood thought they were bribing him. Which is also illegal

Thats whats worrying as well. Currently gaming is about "who has the most money". The games with the most money behind them get the most attention, which generally means, not pc games or indie games. Alot of indie games that don't have the gaming media and huge million dollar PR behind them would be super hurt if stuff like youtube dissapeared. If you look at Totalbiscuit's youtube channel he (not gametrailers, IGN or gamespot) is promoting indie titles while those websites promote the games with the most dosh behind them (Battlefield/Call Of Duty). Gaming partly sucks balls today because of that coke can mentality. As soon as stuff like youtube is gone, gaming will became even crapper, dumbed down uncreative state than it is now.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Wikipedia shamed the mob. If nothing else, this bill how corrupted the system has become.

 

[Mike_D202]

I thought I would never see the day where Cooperate America wages war against citizens rights. I've only seen things like these in the movies about the distant future. This should get interesting.