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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Thread Manager, Jul 8, 2018.
Again, it shows where the backlash against NFL players taking a knee is truly coming from.
One's a racist, they're all racists. Yup, that's some 2018 thinkin'.
Apply that to any non-political issue of any persuasion, and you'd be laughed out of town.
There are racists out there in every institution, yes. Every facet of society. That doesn't equate to a majority, or a motive, or any pattern other than this one ignorant tool. Just like every other part of the country. You might as well be saying "the Klan started in the south, any decision made by people of light pigmentation from the south is motivated by the Klan", it's just as ridiculous.
I don't know how many times I have to post that the states that overwhelmingly support Trump are also the states where "n***** jokes" and "I hate n******" are two of the top Google searches before people get that the US is still very racist. The book "Everybody Lies" by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz explains this quite clearly.
These are also the same states that googled "first n***** president" when Obama was elected.
So race hustler Shaun King tweeted the CNN story about the Mexican immigrant attacked by a lady with a brick but has now deleted it. Gee, I wonder why...
Why would you even type the second and third statement into google.
I can understand (while it is obv bad) the search for jokes but the other two make no sense at all.
Where are you finding this? I've searched multiple places with Google trends, and I haven't seen anything like that. I've found a few sites that breaks it down per year, and they don't have one for 2018 yet(the years not over), but the one I found for 2017 was this, and nothing came close to what you were saying. http://www.geekexchange.com/news/what-did-your-state-google-the-most-in-2017/
I already said where I found the information. In a book. Written by a data scientist. He asked Google for the statistics directly. And he used Google Trends which is open to everyone.
What book, what data scientist?
"Everybody Lies" by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz. I said this in my post that you quoted.
Ok, I just read that part f the book, and it's not exactly the way you're saying it. He said on MLK day, there's about 30% more Google searches for racist jokes, and if you look who searches for the N-word, it happens to be in regions who supported Trump. And it's not the top Google searches(which I thought that's what you meant), it's just if you narrow down who actually typed in the N-Word into Google. He said he got all of this on Google Trends, and when I tried it during 2015-2017, it's basically any combination of that word. So, for instance, the top three searches that incorporate the N-word are: "Pewdie Pie says the word N*****", "Keemstar N*****", and Bill Maher house N*****". And the top regions do fall under the Blue states.
But I dunno, I'll read more of the book later when I get more time.
I did say that the regions that supported Trump are more racist based on those Google searches. It's at the very beginning of the book. I didn't say they were the top searches, I said they were part of the top. And it was specifically those phrases.
Well, you did say it was the top Google searches, which is why I wanted to look into those claims, cause it seemed highly unlikely to me.
Now going into Google trends, and typing those exact phrases, it's mixed. The only one I can agree to being in top searches for Red States is the "n**** jokes" phrase, but the "I hate n******" is evenly mixed with both Red and Blue States, and "first n**** President" shows incomplete data for all regions and time periods. Correlation does not imply causation, so I wouldn't be attributing it to just Red States, when there's mixed or incomplete data. All this tells me, is that, yes, there's people who search racist stuff on Google in both Red and Blue States.
I never once made mention of red and blue states. I said states that supported Trump (which he flipped some former Dem states). The point of all of this is that the US is still very racist. And again, I never said top search. I said one of the top.
Also, no offense to you, but I'll take the word of a data scientist over someone on an internet forum unless they, too, have a similar education. He obviously utilized Google and Google Trends effectively.
It's not "one of the top" either. And I like to do my own work, and cross references. I don't just blindly believe everything I'm spoon fed, just because I want to believe it. So you can do whatever you want.
K, cool. Also, this information wasn't "spoon fed" to me. But whatever. Keep doing you I guess.
Its very simple. When such awful, racist things are searched, they are most often searched in states that voted for Trump. How difficult is that?
Sure, if NY, NJ, CA, etc are major Trump loving Red States, youre correct.
I am sure the per capita numbers look great for red states in this regard. .
Only two states had more people vote for Trump then California. It was Texas and Florida, and that was by 200,000 apiece. My state still cast another 9.5m votes for Clinton, Johnson and Stein. California has a lot more people in it then then the Dakotas or midwest. Same for the south. Even New Jersey and New York had more votes for Trump then the Midwest states that voted for Trump.
So what you're saying is, you don't know who voted for whom in each State(or searched on Google), yet, you're still going to imply that it's only one voting demographic.....with no data to back this up, mind you. One second you said it's simple, the next, you're backpedaling on these claims.
-They are most often in States that voted for Trump. Simple.
-What about NY, NJ, and CA?
-Ahhh, what you don't understand, is even though those are Blue States, they had lots of Trump supporters in them, therefore, only Trump supporters searched for those terms in those Blue States. Don't you see, it's so simple.
The divide in the States isn't North and South. It's East and West. Some of the regions with the highest racist searches include:
-Upstate New York
Wait, do you not know how population or per capita numbers work?
If 5% of California makes those racist searches, it would be more then 15 others states and D.C's population.
Its like talking to a cult member. Just non responsive, and going for it.
You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. The first part is admitting it to yourself.
Though this seems rather simple. How many of the areas where the searches pop up voted for Trump? Unless you think a whole state equals a city/district/area/etc. that could have voted for Trump. I know us in California are considered crazy coastal people, but we have plenty of Republican representatives, especially in the rural areas.
Yeah, no s**t every State is represented by multiple parties, hence, the vote.
This has gone so far off the original point you two were trying to make, that Im sitting here in awe about how much deflection, obfuscation, and backpedaling youre doing right now, but I shouldnt be. You do this song and dance in every thread youre in.
You make an outlandish claim. Someone pokes holes in said claim, and then you do your best to try and convince yourself and everyone else youre 100% in the right. Its truly bizarre. Its like having a conversation with an Evangelical on evolution, or the history of the universe. Its the same tactics. You brush aside obvious facts, and then doable down harder and harder. Its amazing.