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Discussion: The DEMOCRATIC P - Part 3

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Thread Manager, May 3, 2018.

  1. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    A Dem strategist from New York. I think I see the problem there.
     
  2. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    *Sees Sean Patrick Maloney's strategy during the midterms. :o*
     
  3. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    The Philadelphia Inquirer - 'We want to be as connected as possible': Fetterman names Philly organizer Joe Pierce state director for his Senate office.
    Pierce will be based in Philadelphia, which he said reflects an ongoing effort to connect Fetterman to the state’s biggest city.

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    Google Books - Kill Switch: The Rise of the Modern Senate and the Crippling of American Democracy
     
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  5. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    And I see New Hampshire and Iowa are throwing temper tantrums.
     
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  6. mclay18 Registered

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    The disastrous 2020 Iowa caucus pretty much cemented IA's demise for the first Democratic presidential primaries going forward. As that state has been lily white and reliably red for years, it makes sense to abandon it for a more racially diverse state like SC and NV that better represents the D voter bloc.

    I would like to see NC move up to late February 2024 (since our state is trending purple more quickly than SC), but I'm fine with NC remaining on Super Tuesday. As long as it's not moved to April or May 2024.

    I look forward to voting for President Biden two more times regardless.
     
  7. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    One of the supposed benefits of NH and Iowa were that as small population states they make candidates that are not well-funded viable early on. But you could also make the same case for Nevada.
     
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  8. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    I must be missing something. What difference does it make who votes first?
     
  9. mclay18 Registered

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    Perceived candidate momentum. MSM turns it into a rat race, but they were thrown for a loop when Biden swept the delegates on Super Tuesday 2020.

    Iowa and New Hampshire are just salty that they're no longer favored nation status. Especially non-Dem Senator Hog Castrator, who has no business b**ching about a political party she's not a part of.
     
  10. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    Well, all I can say is that I don't let things like that choose for me. I tend to vote pretty early anyhow, before a lot of tallies hit the news. :)
     
  11. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    Momentum and media narrative for the candidates. For the states, they get to feel important and get a lot of campaign dollars.

    I am more than fine with letting smaller states get an earlier say in the candidates. But we really do need 2-3 for the first vote, rather than just one.
     
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  12. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    I've always thought that the Dems having Iowa "caucuses" first up is stupid. Open the primaries with some states that reflect your membership.
     
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  13. mclay18 Registered

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    They're likely going to dispense with caucuses entirely and switch to regular primaries.
     
  14. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    I’m almost embarrassed to tell people how many years I’ve been saying they should S can caucuses entirely. I know they weren’t listening to me, but I’m glad they’re gonna do it.
     
  15. mclay18 Registered

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    I never really got the concept of Presidential caucuses. The only caucus should be after the primaries and presidential elections where the EVs are counted.
     
  16. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Caucuses are hopefully on the way out soon and will be replaced by a primary system. After the 2020 debacle in Iowa, I hope it's sooner.
     
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    Well, the 51-49 Senate majority is a reality now. Thank you Georgia voters.
     
  18. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    Nice. :D
     
  19. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Yes. Definitely helped that the GOP controlled Congress motivator is gone.
     
  20. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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  21. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    :funny:
     
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    It's a big help with regard to committee control, judicial nominations, and so forth. That being said, from a legislative perspective, bills still need to be approved by the house. In order to pass legislation, the Dems will need to pick off at least 6 or 7 members from the Repubs. On the senate side, it gives the Dems the ability to pass legislation without the consent of 1 of the 2 problematic senators (Manchin and Sinema). That's a big deal because either one of them alone, can't block legislation.

    If I'm in the house, I'm throwing pork at those republican members in purplish districts.
     
  23. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    And thats the thing, for important stuff, the House has better means of bypassing the Speaker than the Senate does in bypassing the Majority Leader. And any bill that would get 9 votes from the Senate GOP will easily be able to defeat the Houses 5 seat majority.

    This is going to be McCarthy's hell, because any moderates that rebel will easily find votes of support from the Dems. The crazy caucus, not so much.
     

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