🇺🇲 Discussion: The DEMOCRATIC P - Part 3

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This should have been repealed decades ago but as usual Congress waits and waits until it's nearly too late or already is to act.
Yeah. They also should have codified Roe v Wade into law when they had a chance. Sometimes things don't seem like they're necessary at the time and the lack of housekeeping jumps up and bites you.
 
My best guess is that reproductive choice rights are the best thing the Democrats have going for them in 2024.
 
I thought we were....?
The bottom line is that people are always going to debate strategy and the Monday (or in the case of elections, Wednesday morning) quarterbacking always happens.

Take the Kentucky senate race.....people said a more progressive candidate has a better chance of winning than McGrath and after she lost, they said "you see?" Horse hockey pucky.....McConnell wasn't going to lose that race no matter who the Dems ran and McGrath, for that state, was as strong a candidate as there was.

Would I have preferred Booker? Yes. Of course, but he had no shot either. The real question was the down ballot races and whether Booker would have helped more there. I doubt it, but we'll never know for sure.
 
Take the Kentucky senate race.....people said a more progressive candidate has a better chance of winning than McGrath and after she lost, they said "you see?" Horse hockey pucky.....McConnell wasn't going to lose that race no matter who the Dems ran and McGrath, for that state, was as strong a candidate as there was.
If McGrath was guaranteed to lose, they might as well run someone who can inspire.

There is a progressive element in the south, see for example the drive to unionization. However, it's different from the progressive element on the coasts, as the latter is less interested in reducing poverty, the opioid crisis, etc.
 

 
Latimer prevailed against Bowman. People want elected officials to actually work for them, not engage in publicity stunts and acting like Republicans.

Frankly, I would be happy if every Squad member (save AOC) got voted out. They’re not working for their constituents.
 
Latimer prevailed against Bowman. People want elected officials to actually work for them, not engage in publicity stunts and acting like Republicans.

Frankly, I would be happy if every Squad member (save AOC) got voted out. They’re not working for their constituents.

I would be hesitant to say that about all of them. Tlaib, I know, has a high muslim population
 
Latimer prevailed against Bowman. People want elected officials to actually work for them, not engage in publicity stunts and acting like Republicans.

Frankly, I would be happy if every Squad member (save AOC) got voted out. They’re not working for their constituents.
Political stances by elected officials aren't often driven by morality. Generally, it's somewhere in between what your constituency wants and where you want to lead. Clearly Bowman deviated too far towards the latter. That being said, the atrocities that are happening in Gaza (inspired by the Hamas attack on so many innocent people) is something that needs to condemned. Netanyahu is a criminal and the sooner Israel has a "leader" that wants to work out a comprehensive, political solution, the better off the world will be. Bibi belongs behind bars (like the alliteration?) and not in the seat of power.

IMO, to unseat the left flank of the democratic party is "exactly" where we don't want to go. I understand that politics is often performative, but what Israel has done needs to be criticized by every rational person. Ditto for the actions of Hamas on 10/7.

While I "generally" agree with Bowman on policy, the whole fire alarm thing and his general demeanor isn't what voters generally expect from their representatives. IMO, that's why he lost.

If you want to represent those who elected you, I suggest taking a page out of the book written by Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and others.
 
Political stances by elected officials aren't often driven by morality. Generally, it's somewhere in between what your constituency wants and where you want to lead. Clearly Bowman deviated too far towards the latter. That being said, the atrocities that are happening in Gaza (inspired by the Hamas attack on so many innocent people) is something that needs to condemned. Netanyahu is a criminal and the sooner Israel has a "leader" that wants to work out a comprehensive, political solution, the better off the world will be. Bibi belongs behind bars (like the alliteration?) and not in the seat of power.

IMO, to unseat the left flank of the democratic party is "exactly" where we don't want to go. I understand that politics is often performative, but what Israel has done needs to be criticized by every rational person. Ditto for the actions of Hamas on 10/7.

While I "generally" agree with Bowman on policy, the whole fire alarm thing and his general demeanor isn't what voters generally expect from their representatives. IMO, that's why he lost.

If you want to represent those who elected you, I suggest taking a page out of the book written by Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and others.
Well said and I very much agree!!!!
 
Latimer prevailed against Bowman. People want elected officials to actually work for them, not engage in publicity stunts and acting like Republicans.

Frankly, I would be happy if every Squad member (save AOC) got voted out. They’re not working for their constituents.
What about Omar?
 
Political stances by elected officials aren't often driven by morality. Generally, it's somewhere in between what your constituency wants and where you want to lead. Clearly Bowman deviated too far towards the latter. That being said, the atrocities that are happening in Gaza (inspired by the Hamas attack on so many innocent people) is something that needs to condemned. Netanyahu is a criminal and the sooner Israel has a "leader" that wants to work out a comprehensive, political solution, the better off the world will be. Bibi belongs behind bars (like the alliteration?) and not in the seat of power.

IMO, to unseat the left flank of the democratic party is "exactly" where we don't want to go. I understand that politics is often performative, but what Israel has done needs to be criticized by every rational person. Ditto for the actions of Hamas on 10/7.

A lot of the far left is pushing these whacked out beliefs like believing every thing Hamas or Palestine is saying about the I/P conflict but dismiss Israel’s side because of Netanyahu (and think the number of innocent Israelis kidnapped, killed or maimed on 10/7 is played up). Or they think Biden can tell Israel what to do because of the aid we give them — but Israel is a sovereign nation, not a U.S. territory. This is a problem Israel should’ve fixed years ago.

And furthermore, no country should ever negotiate with Hamas or believe everything they say. You don’t negotiate with a terrorist organization.
 
A lot of the far left is pushing these whacked out beliefs like believing every thing Hamas or Palestine is saying about the I/P conflict but dismiss Israel’s side because of Netanyahu (and think the number of innocent Israelis kidnapped, killed or maimed on 10/7 is played up). Or they think Biden can tell Israel what to do because of the aid we give them — but Israel is a sovereign nation, not a U.S. territory. This is a problem Israel should’ve fixed years ago.

And furthermore, no country should ever negotiate with Hamas or believe everything they say. You don’t negotiate with a terrorist organization.
Just to be clear, "I'M" far left on the political spectrum, but that doesn't mean I dismiss atrocities by anyone. To repeat what I've said before, what Hamas did on 10/7 was inexcusable and so was the response by the Israeli government; the main problem being that it's lead by someone who probably would be more suited for jail than a seat of power. There HAS to be a political solution that recognizes the rights of the Palestinian people.

My belief is that a terrible, terrible decision made over 75 years ago in the middle east is the real reason we're seeing the problems we have now.

And, yes, Netanyahu doesn't report to the US president.
 

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