Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - - - - - Part 20

I think a lot of these so called "right wing" commentators get a lot more stick than they deserve a lot of them are actually pretty reasonable even if I don't agree with them
I'd be curious to hear who'd you place in that category.
 
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Courier-Journal - Is Braidy Industries of Kentucky getting in bed with Russian mobsters?

If all goes according to plan, by the middle of the year, we’ll be in business with Oleg Deripaska, a buddy of Vladimir Putin.

He could be sending $200 million — if you believe media reports — in what could very well be mobbed-up money to northeastern Kentucky to build a $1.7 billion aluminum plant on an old strip mine there.
The Trump administration lifted the sanctions in January after Deripaska agreed to reduce his ownership stake in the Moscow-based company, the world’s second-largest aluminum manufacturer, from 70% to less than 45%.

And that came only after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell [of Kentucky] backed that decision despite large numbers of Republicans and Democrats who objected to allowing Rusal and its parent company En+ Group into the United States.

The House voted to keep the sanctions 362-53, but the Senate fell three votes short of the 60 votes needed to end a filibuster. McConnell, along with Sen. Rand Paul, voted against the resolution.
 
Ben Shapiro certainly annoys me. He's basically popular because he can own libs from time to time. Once again, it all comes down to liberal tears. I used to do national level debate when I was in high school, and I've argued with a million guys like Ben: fast talkers, who kind of blanket you in sea of obfuscation and mitigation... leaving you exhausted, and in the end, you have to admit he makes it hard to argue with him.

But like a lot of them, it's only mitigation, or it's switching ground to favorable points, or it's false equivalencies, or it's correlation equalling causation... an encyclopedia of disingenuous forms of argumentation. Ben's whole argument usually rests on the idea that most of us will be too lazy to actually research his points, and disprove them wrong. And he's mostly right. It's not worth my time and effort. If someone were to call him out on something, he'd just go somewhere else to rationalize and defend himself... leading to more branches of things that need to be disproven... to infinity.

As a person, I find him pretty darn smarmy. He seems like a real tool, to me.. to be honest.
 
Ben Shapiro certainly annoys me. He's basically popular because he can own libs from time to time. Once again, it all comes down to liberal tears. I used to do national level debate when I was in high school, and I've argued with a million guys like Ben: fast talkers, who kind of blanket you in sea of obfuscation and mitigation... leaving you exhausted, and in the end, you have to admit he makes it hard to argue with him.
But like a lot of them, it's only mitigation, or it's switching ground to favorable points, or it's false equivalencies, or it's correlation equalling causation... an encyclopedia of disingenuous forms of argumentation. Ben's whole argument usually rests on the idea that most of us will be too lazy to actually research his points, and disprove them wrong. And he's mostly right. It's not worth my time and effort. If someone were to call him out on something, he'd just go somewhere else to rationalize and defend himself... leading to more branches of things that need to be disproven... to infinity.

As a person, I find him pretty darn smarmy. He seems like a real tool, to me.. to be honest.

The problem is the American media channels coddle these dudes because they want to be perceived as neutral. We give them time and attention.



All it took was a BBC presenter to treat Ben and his sophistry like the non-serious garbage it is and he disintegrated like a wet paper towel.
 
At which point I also point out that the imbecile Stephen Moore was a CNN regular before his nomination and pull. And he was hardly the worst of the Trumpers.

CNN and the others are so god damn scared of "liberal bias" they bend backwards to make the right not as bad as it is. I mean, there are multiple reasons, of course. The fear of the appearance of bias is the frustrating one. They also know a horse race is good for the ratings.

At least CNN has stopped trying to paint Trump as presidential when he doesn't **** his pants.
 
The Dems also got the government reopened after a month long shutdown caused by the Repubs.
 
Credit when it's due: Justin Amash is absolutely killing it. He looks poised, well informed, diligent... he talks really definitively, and you can tell he's done his research. He apparently got a standing ovation tonight in his town hall.

That's when it occurred to me.... Justin Amash should totally run for President. His youth and intelligence would be a stark contrast to Trump, and the fact that he's a Republican makes it much more effective. He could be the guy to do the most damage to Trump in the next election if he so chose.

I wouldn't want him to win. He is a Libertarian. But he could all do us a serious solid if he decided to run. Apparently he was asked this question, and didn't say 'no.'
 
Credit when it's due: Justin Amash is absolutely killing it. He looks poised, well informed, diligent... he talks really definitively, and you can tell he's done his research. He apparently got a standing ovation tonight in his town hall.

That's when it occurred to me.... Justin Amash should totally run for President. His youth and intelligence would be a stark contrast to Trump, and the fact that he's a Republican makes it much more effective. He could be the guy to do the most damage to Trump in the next election if he so chose.

I wouldn't want him to win. He is a Libertarian. But he could all do us a serious solid if he decided to run. Apparently he was asked this question, and didn't say 'no.'

He also lost the DeVos money and immediately got a primary challenger. I respect him, in that he seems to be an actual libertarian, whereas Rand Paul only sticks with it when it suits him.
 
Yep. I can't stand many of his policies, but I respect him as someone who is intelligent and genuinely seems to believe what he runs on and is willing to take a stand regardless of potential loss. I wish their were more republicans with half his spine.
 
They all got primaried by the Tea Party crazies.
 
Credit when it's due: Justin Amash is absolutely killing it. He looks poised, well informed, diligent... he talks really definitively, and you can tell he's done his research. He apparently got a standing ovation tonight in his town hall.

That's when it occurred to me.... Justin Amash should totally run for President. His youth and intelligence would be a stark contrast to Trump, and the fact that he's a Republican makes it much more effective. He could be the guy to do the most damage to Trump in the next election if he so chose.

I wouldn't want him to win. He is a Libertarian. But he could all do us a serious solid if he decided to run. Apparently he was asked this question, and didn't say 'no.'

President Amash...I feel like people would have a field day with a name like that.
 

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Stated support for Puerto Rico statehood is in the Republican Party platform, for whatever it matters anymore, as they go further white/right.
 
More Dems= socialism.

Probably pissed that the Supreme Court punted on VA, essentially letting it turn blue.
 


Stated support for Puerto Rico statehood is in the Republican Party platform, for whatever it matters anymore, as they go further white/right.


The Dem president in 2020 needs to make statehood for PR and DC part of their campaign promises. In the case of PR, "End Taxation without representation!" Every american who ever heard about the Revolution in school heard that, "Taxation without representation in Parliament" was one of the reasons we rebelled against England. That "no taxation without representation" idea is drilled into American's heads from a young age. It's an idea they understand. Well, the Federal government makes PR pay some federal taxes, but refuses to give them representation in the House and Senate.

It needs to stop or PR needs to get representation in Washington and the way to do that is give them statehood.
 

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