Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party XIII

[SentinelMind]

back to our regularly scheduled program...

so apparently the thunderstorm may postpone the GOP convention.

http://professional.wsj.com/article...SJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop&mg=reno64-wsj

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya I hope Isaac ruins their party. I love me a good hurricane. We Floridians love us a good storm

 

[Hotwire]

Wow. I seriously want suicide statistics for political PR reps.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/23/frank-szabo-new-hampshire-abortion_n_1824743.html

 

[Matt]

I'm watching Jeb Bush on Meet the Press. I don't agree with him on much, but I will say this....America got saddled with the wrong Bush. Jeb would've been twice the President that George was.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I'm watching Jeb Bush on Meet the Press. I don't agree with him on much, but I will say this....America got saddled with the wrong Bush. Jeb would've been twice the President that George was.

To be fair, the crazy cat-lady who lives next door to me would've been twice the President that George was.

 

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[Marx]

New thread means a new poll! Since the Mitt Romney has chosen Paul Ryan as his running mate, what do you think? Does Ryan help or hurt Romney's chances in the upcoming election? Please be sure to vote in the poll above!

 

[Marx]

The Republican National Convention officially kicks off tomorrow! The convention thread is now up!

The 2012 Republican National Convention
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=392407

UPDATE: REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION SUSPENDED UNTIL TUESDAY DUE TO HURRICANE ISAAC

 

[SentinelMind]

I lack two of those (no prizes for figuring out which two). Are you saying I'm not a whole person?

I think you're taking things way too personally. I was arguing there's more ways to provide charity than just material nourishment, including education, spiritual counseling, etc. I said they are "all essential to personal development" of whole person...I didn't say if they don't partake in particular activities, you're not a whole person. Personal development has many components. You're free to argue otherwise. Saying math is essential to proper educational curriculum doesn't mean someone not good at math isn't a complete person.

 

[Kelly]

I'm don't give a crap about math.....I just look like I do... : ) I'm next door to a math teacher, I have to make it look good......

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Interesting development:


Charlie Crist Former Republican Governor Of Florida Endorses President Obama
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/0...governor-of-florida-endorses-president-obama/

Now, THIS line of thinking represents the kind of balanced, moderate Republican party I adored/supported at one time! Not this rogue Tea Party s*** it's allowed itself to become in the last several years.

If this guy was running for POTUS I could be swung back to GOP.

 

[Marx]

I was just reading about that. Very interesting.

 

[SentinelMind]

Crist is an independent now and was hardly a principled Republican. He was the biggest political opportunist, changing his position on budget cuts, abortion, gay marriage depending on the year or month he was running for office. Compromise is important, but its more important to have principles. Pandering to one group or another isn't leadership.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Crist is an independent now and was hardly a principled Republican. He was the biggest political opportunist, changing his position on budget cuts, abortion, gay marriage depending on the year or month he was running for office. Compromise is important, but its more important to have principles. Pandering to one group or another isn't leadership.

I don't think he's "pandering." He's adapting to the world's current social and moral climate--not holding on to past ways of thinking. We have always been a diverse nation, but now the diversity has taken on a stronger voice in its demands for equality. And this endorsement is hardly a politically correct thing to do; he's going against his party lines, and being totally accurate he DID run as a Republican while in office. It's only been in recent times he's stitched to our party (independent).

At least he's not another GOP birther that has me questioning his earth card...some of these people are clearly not from this planet.

 

[Paradoxium]

He also doesn't have to endorse Obama if he doesn't like Ryan/Romney. Seems rather opportunistic to me.

 

[Paradoxium]

Ryan is too much of a wildcard to predict, which is the whole point.

And you know how I love to play the prediction game, right or wrong.

 

[SentinelMind]

I don't think he's "pandering." He's adapting to the world's current social and moral climant--not holding on to past ways of thinking. We have always been a diverse nation, but now the diversity has taken on a stronger voice in its demands for equality. And this endorsement is hardly a politically correct thing to do; he's going against his party lines, and being totally accurate he DID run as a Republican while in office. It's only been in recent times he's stitched to our party (independent).

At least he's not another GOP birther that has me questioning his earth card...some of these people are clearly not from this planet.

He was making calls to the White House when he lost GOP primary bid. His campaign said he would caucus with Democrats.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/29/crist-would-caucus-with-democrats-advisor-says/

He was rejected and instead of taking the loss in stride, he made an opportunistic grab for power by aligning with other party.

Bill Clinton was meeting with Kendrick Meek to drop out of Senate race to help Crist.

He may genuinely believe Obama is better candidate, but he's clearly trying to suck-up to Democratic administration because he lost all clout with Republicans.

Supporting the build-up of more than 15 trillion dollars of national debt isn't leadership.

 

[Belvedere]

Good on Crist.

I'm sure a lot of moderate Republicans out there feel exactly as he does.

 

[Kelly]

Well, he's actually an Independent now....more moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats need to make the change as well...

My only problem with Crist is I don't believe anything he does is because of an inner integrity....I think he's full of crap.... : )

 

[SV Fan]

Well, he's actually an Independent now....more moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats need to make the change as well...

I always say the Northern Republicans and Southern Democrats should join together to make a Moderate party, bring back the Bull Moose party.

 

[Kelly]

As long as it doesn't turn into a Teddy "progressive" Roosevelt Republican party.....fine with me. Their desire to spend out the ass is what bothers me about both parties right now...

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Supporting the build-up of more than 15 trillion dollars of national debt isn't leadership.

You're speaking as if he's flip-flopped here. The build-up you're mentioning started under a President of his former party. He supported him then, now he's supporting this one. The national debt is just the gift that keeps on giving, no matter who's got the Oval Office.

 

[SV Fan]

As long as it doesn't turn into a Teddy "progressive" Roosevelt Republican party.

Hey I like Teddy Roosevelt, he was one of the few Presidents who didn't have a problem telling big business and banks where to shove it

 

[SentinelMind]

You're speaking as if he's flip-flopped here. The build-up you're mentioning started under a President of his former party. He supported him then, now he's supporting this one. The national debt is just the gift that keeps on giving, no matter who's got the Oval Office.

Crist lied claiming he never supported the stimulus. He even claimed it was wasteful spending after campaigning for it with Obama on stage! Now his editorial supports it.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...ie-crist-says-he-didnt-endorse-stimulus-bill/

 

[Paradoxium]

I dunno Sentinel, pretty fitting endorsement if you ask me. t: