Hawkingbird
I want to be Kate Bishop
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What will annoy me is if Luke Cage turns up as a C list!
Arrow and TWD are starting to push the limits. And don't underestimate how much money will be pored into this show..we're talking about something that has the potential to pull in upwards of 16-20 million views on a network like ABC with its pedigree, not to mention because it's a "nerdy" comic show the home media sales will be through the roof, along with all the other merchandising. Then there's syndication, where it should also be really successful thanks to the all ages accessibility the show will have. We're talking a certified money printing monster here. On top off all that they already have so many resources and stock CGI that they can use from the films that saving costs on effects won't be hard.
Yeah, given Arrow's success with adapting some outside DC characters into its show, I would expect it too. I just hope they're not TOO adapted. After the MCU showed its ability to stick pretty closely to the comic book looks for its main heroes, it would be sad if the cameos in this show were all Arrow-ized.I don't expect to see cameos from "the big guns" of the big screen; but I *do* expect to see comic-book cameos from a lot of C-list and D-list heroes and villains from the Marvel Universe.
Yeah, given Arrow's success with adapting some outside DC characters into its show, I would expect it too. I just hope they're not TOO adapted. After the MCU showed its ability to stick pretty closely to the comic book looks for its main heroes, it would be sad if the cameos in this show were all Arrow-ized.
I didn't say reuse footage, I said use the CGI models designed for the films. Not the same thing. As for distribution rights, they've brought that up in interviews but they also said there's a good chance they will be able to use the models from the Avengers onwards. Also, we all know this won't tank so let's not even consider that as a possibility. It will get great ratings.On the money issue, they're not going to reuse footage from the movies, both because of the distribution rights issues as well as it's tacky. They're not going to make a show that's going to be in the hole until the DVD's come out. If it's not profitable as it's coming out, then it will be cancelled before any syndication or merchandising can happen.
I didn't mean that it will average 20 million views an ep, though I do think the pilot itself will pull in at around that number. I'm expecting Big Bang Theory numbers around 14-16 million average.And even if it is by far the biggest and most successful scripted show of all time pulling in 20 million viewers a week, they're not going to spend that success breaking even trying to make an action show with movie-level special effects. They're going to get good character writing and use the CGI and other action to tell a good story that will keep those 20 million people tuning in week after week to see what happens next, regardless of if it looks cooler than last week or not. More cost effective, and has proven successful with Lost, Heroes, Spartacus, TWD and all the shows SHIELD aspires to be like.
I came in here to see if the powers that be have alluded to just how connected this show will be with the movies, but I see they haven't. What would be acceptable to you guys?
I'd really like for them to pull a Coulson in the other direction. Get the most loved team member/hero or the most hated villain and transition them into the movies. Other than that, I'd only want to see cameos of Fury and Hill in the show and cameos of the prisons in the movies.
-PLEASE be better than heroes-
I think the show should be heavily connected to the movies, in the sense that the movies provide context for the show. This is the world we are operating in, superpowered beings and aliens and everything that comes with the Marvel Universe. That said, it must be able to exist on its own in that the plot points don't have to necessarily impact or be impacted by the movies. This is why I think that if we are going to see Marvel heroes (and we are), they should be street-level. It works within the budget for a TV show and the storylines can be mostly independent of the movies, while still maintaining threads into the MCU.
On the other hand, I hope there are at least a few things from the show that add to the movies directly. Like, again if the show was running when the Avengers came out, I wouldn't mind seeing a street level hero that was established on the show (Luke Cage?) fighting off on the side of the NYC battle.
Agreed. I would hope that the showrunners don't feel the need to constrain themselves. The best course of action would be to allow for the possibility that characters featured in the show could transition into the movies if the story called for it, or vice versa.
I'm not quite sure, but I assume that there is a difference between animation rights and live-action television rights.Exactly. It'll probably be tricky for them to find the right amount of crossover, so I expect a few hiccups in the first season or two. What would almost completely kill the show for me though would be making an Avengers movie tie into the finale for a season. The characters should cross over, not the stories.
Do you know anything about the tv rights vs movie rights for characters? Could Reed Richards ever come in and help with some sciency stuff?
I thought the working theory was that the show's 1st season begins at some point before the events in TA. This would explain Coulson's liveliness.
Yes, Kevin Feige decided to go full devil-mode and ruin everything so Coulson is back
Yes, Kevin Feige decided to go full devil-mode and ruin everything so Coulson is back
I thought the working theory was that the show's 1st season begins at some point before the events in TA. This would explain Coulson's liveliness.
Are you talking about the actors suing or another creative party suing?I suspect they would avoid that, because even if its not explicitly in the contract, there would probably be grounds for a messy lawsuit.
Awww. RIP ABThat one guy who thought that Feige was the devil with "666" tattooed on his forehead got banned. It's really too bad because I would have loved to read his reaction to Feige's "Showman of the Year" award.
Isn't Coulson's return Joss Whedon's fault?