Do you accept the theory of evolution?

[SV Fan]

How is the Earth only 6,000 years old and why aren't there any dinosaurs running around like lizards and snakes if all animals were created on the same day?

Not that I believe this but there is an easy explanation the Dinosaurs went out with Noah's flood.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Scientists being able to correct previous knowledge with new information is a strength, Hmarrs.

It's one of the reasons why the scientific method is the best way of discerning what is the the truth.

Most of the discrepencies in this thread are also not discrepencies. They are findings that were overdramatized by the media. It amazes me how people still think we're looking for the "missing link". Missing link to what? We have tons of links. Every fossil is a link, every fossil dated back a significant portion of time shows beautiful transitional features. The jaw for example. Following a path starting at Tiktaalik you can trace perfectly the transition of bones in the jaw from amphibious fish to the inner ear bones of land mammals. You can see the movement, how the bones gradually repositioned and eventually were repurposed. Minor disputes over what came before what, or what the ultimate role of junk DNA is doesn't topple the whole theory, or even shoot holes in it. Not even close.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Not that I believe this but there is an easy explanation the Dinosaurs went out with Noah's flood.

Anyone can present you with an "easy" explanation. Explanations require proof, and Noah's flood has none.

 

[childeroland]

Until it's disproved again.

With new knowledge that gives us an even greater picture of the universe...like that stemming from Kepler's laws, Newton's laws, and Euler's, so that we make progress that leads to advances in medicine, physics, etc. Advances that could not have been made any other way.

 

[chaseter]

Dude your freakin rambling.
Your questions are ridiculous.
Why is Paris Hilton famous?
I never said a day IN OUR TIME WASN'T A BILLION FOR GOD.
AS A MATTER OF FACT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP THE BIBLE SAYS ONE DAY FOR GOD IS A THOUSAND YEARS FOR US.
SO IN REALITY CREATION WOULD HAVE TAKEN SEVEN THOUSAND YEARS.
So your pretty close.

So you can't answer one question...

Guess creationism needs more facts.

 

[SuperFerret]

That's why it's a Theory


I'm not religious.I have a relationship.There are some here who believe in Evolution so dogmatically who are more religious then I ever hope to be.


Ahhhh c'mon man even you don't believ that go back and read this thread over.

I agree with you.This the point I was trying to make in the beggining before I got attacked by your right wing Evolutionist.

I think Science has proven that no Theory is secure.

Spontaneous Generation

Phlogiston

Maternal Impression

Vitalism

The Four Humors

Geocentricity

California Island

Alchemy

World Ice Theory

Rain Follows the Plow

The Age of the Earth

Laplacian Evolution

Newtons Laws of Motion

Newton's corpuscular theory of light

Aristotle's dynamic motion

The classical elemental theory

Phlogiston theory

Remember when the Atom was THE smallest particle? It was a FACT!!

All Scientific theories to name a few debunked by thier fellow Scientific peers.

Why yes, viewpoints change over time. People come up with new and better things to know each year. Surprising, isn't it? The same has happened with religion.

 

[Hmarrs]

Also...in the Bible it says man was shaped from the Earth. Could that not mean we evolved from single cell organisms that first inhabited this planet?

Maybe I have often wondered but then how would the Bible know this
so long ago.
How does it speak of the the four corners mean North,South,East and West years before the compass was invented.
How can the Bible speak of heavens in terms of layers that we see now.
Look I don't want this to be a Biblical debate.The question wasn't who believes in the Bible.The question was who Believes in Evolution.

 

[chaseter]

Not that I believe this but there is an easy explanation the Dinosaurs went out with Noah's flood.

But then how did animals from across the ocean or on an island like Madagascar make it to Noah's ship? How did they then get back after the flood?

 

[WildcatNC]

Until it's disproved again.

The #1 thing that makes the scientific method superior is that it is at least "based" on evidence. Even if its wrong, its based on the best observable and reproducible evidence at the time.

There is nothing wrong with changing what you think with new evidence.


Its better than just making it up according to what you want to believe, which is what the counter offer is.

 

[SV Fan]

Anyone can present you with an "easy" explanation. Explanations require proof, and Noah's flood has none.

There is alot flood myths from around there world so I actually believe there might be something to the story. Going by when they are written it looks like the story of Noah is just plagiarism(much like many things in the bible) of other flood stories

But then how did animals from across the ocean or on an island like Madagascar make it to Noah's ship? How did they then get back after the flood?

Hey I didn't say I believe it, the whole Noah Ark story opens up alot of problems if you think about it for 2 seconds, but it is an easy out for the Dinosaur question

Why yes, viewpoints change over time. People come up with new and better things to know each year. Surprising, isn't it? The same has happened with religion.

The Roman Catholic church used to kill people if you thought the world was round, they now believe the world is round.

 

[chaseter]

Maybe I have often wondered but then how would the Bible know this
so long ago.
How does it speak of the the four corners mean North,South,East and West years before the compass was invented.
How can the Bible speak of heavens in terms of layers that we see now.
Look I don't want this to be a Biblical debate.The question wasn't who believes in the Bible.The question was who Believes in Evolution.

You brought the Bible into this with your evidence of creationism.

I present logical questions and you call it rambling. No where in the Bible does it refute evolution yet you say evolution does not exist because of evidence in the Bible.

 

[chaseter]

Dbl

 

[chaseter]

If all animals were created on the same day...why are there no fossils of chihuahuas next to the triceratops?

Look harder scientists!

 

[Hmarrs]

Anyone can present you with an "easy" explanation. Explanations require proof, and Noah's flood has none.

Yeah except for the fact that 99% percent of all fossils and Dinosaur bones have been found under layers of sediment that has been proven to have been under layers of water.look it up.

With new knowledge that gives us an even greater picture of the universe...like that stemming from Kepler's laws, Newton's laws, and Euler's, so that we make progress that leads to advances in medicine, physics, etc. Advances that could not have been made any other way.

In the end you still have explain who or what created that Universe.
If it created itself then who is itself?

So you can't answer one question...
I can answer your question with a question do you believe God exist?
If not tell me how you know this.
Guess creationism needs more facts.

Not according to Evolution.
Evolution means it keeps recreating itself and adapting so Evolution
just helps to prove this fact.Thus debunking it's whole purpose.

Why yes, viewpoints change over time. People come up with new and better things to know each year. Surprising, isn't it? The same has happened with religion.

I am not religious.
So I think you mean the religion of Evolution don't you.

 

[chaseter]

Moviefan2k4... Welcome back.

 

[SuperFerret]

I am not religious.

You're citing the Bible as evidence for creationism.

 

[The Squirrel]

You brought the Bible into this with your evidence of creationism.

I present logical questions and you call it rambling. No where in the Bible does it refute evolution yet you say evolution does not exist because of evidence in the Bible.

I guess it depends on what part of evolution we are talking about? The Bible at least refutes that man came from apes, because God formed man out of dust and breathed life into him in Genesis. The development of animal species is more of a gray line, but it does say God created them all.

(I'm just referencing what's in the Bible with this post.)

 

[DBryan]

In the end you still have explain who or what created that Universe.
If it created itself then who is itself?

That question doesn't even make sense

Anyway, come visit the Atheist thread, if you want to discuss specifics about god and the origin of the universe.

 

[C. Lee]

I would like to remind everyone....this thread is for you state whether you believe in evolution or not.....it is not a thread for attacking those who believe either way or for bashing religion. Keep it on the subject and try not to turn this into another attack others for their beliefs thread.

 

[Hmarrs]

The #1 thing that makes the scientific method superior is that it is at least "based" on evidence. Even if its wrong, its based on the best observable and reproducible evidence at the time.

There is nothing wrong with changing what you think with new evidence.


Its better than just making it up according to what you want to believe, which is what the counter offer is.

Do not realize how contradictory this is?
Let me tell you a truth an assumed truth rather until I find out it's wrong then I will tell you what I assume at that point based on what I know until I find out that's not true either???

But then how did animals from across the ocean or on an island like Madagascar make it to Noah's ship? How did they then get back after the flood?

Maybe before the continental divide.Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If all animals were created on the same day...why are there no fossils of chihuahuas next to the triceratops?

Look harder scientists!

As soon as you tell me where the missing link is?

 

[childeroland]

In the end you still have explain who or what created that Universe.
If it created itself then who is itself?

We already know that simple molecules under certain conditions can evolve into more complex forms, without evidence of any supra-natural intervention. For example, scientists have observed the spontaneous formation of peptide structures that may have existed early in Earth's history, and these can form proteinoid microspheres under conditions scientists believe similar to those of early Earth. Under the right conditions, highly-reduced gasses will form basic organic monomers...like the amino acids that are a key element to our biochemistry. It is not a total answer, but it is a start, and only the scientific method, working toward better and better theories, can an answer be found. How else?

 

[Boom]

The way I see it, God created life (unicellular organisms), and then let nature take its own course.

 

[chaseter]

I guess it depends on what part of evolution we are talking about? The Bible at least refutes that man came from apes, because God formed man out of dust and breathed life into him in Genesis. The development of animal species is more of a gray line, but it does say God created them all.

(I'm just referencing what's in the Bible with this post.)

How do we know apes weren't in between dirt and man? This is where literalists see a picture in their head of God taking wet dirt and making a mud man in an hour. The Bible doesn't refute evolution, only man.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's missing. There's a good chance it'll stay that way. We don't know all the species that have ever lived. We won't know either. Not everything can fossilize. It takes specific circumstances.

 

[jonathancrane]

The "debate" is not a debate at all: one either accepts the evidence or rejects it. It is not a theory anymore, as it has been validated over and over again. I am a Christian, but I will and do not reject science. If one is looking for clear cut evidence of it, take a look at themselves: our skin pigments. That is the most accessible and irrefutable example of it.