Superman Returns Do you want a sequel, or start over from scratch?

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ThanosOfTitans said:
yeah...u're right....i mean, it's cool to say ur pops is superman..but no one can lie..in the movie...Richard was the real hero....he seems like a much better dad then superman. lol which is another problem in the film...Superman is supposed to be the main character...so why does it seem like another male character is the more just and noble? lol singer just kind of screwed this one up...I could see if Richard was a deadbeat..but he is actually a good father, and husband.

That's one reason why I want to see Richard's transformation to the 'dark side'. The way I see SR II ending is Superman possibly telling Lois and Jason his secret, leaving Richard out of the loop and seeing what happens from there. It would be an interesting dynamic to have, I think. A "what if?" scenario... But, I see Superman and Richard as the same being- both are supermen, in a way and that's how it was meant- Richard is the human Superman.
 
This needs a complete reboot to be successful. Superman teh remake never happened. Singer needs to go bosworth needs to go. Anything less and this flop will make the next look like Gone With The Wind.
 
Triligors said:
That's one reason why I want to see Richard's transformation to the 'dark side'. The way I see SR II ending is Superman possibly telling Lois and Jason his secret, leaving Richard out of the loop and seeing what happens from there. It would be an interesting dynamic to have, I think. A "what if?" scenario... But, I see Superman and Richard as the same being- both are supermen, in a way and that's how it was meant- Richard is the human Superman.

yeah. that would be a nice turn of events. But he would probably have to be under the unfluence of Lex or a super villain. i can't think of who else he could be other than Metallo or Parasite....well, lex could attempt to give him Superman's power by using a piece of Superman's DNA as the sample....but in their attempts...things go a little wrong...and they get Bizarro....he has superman's powers...but his logic is all screwed up...and the end result is...Bizarro
 
WTFwuzThT said:
This needs a complete reboot to be successful. Superman teh remake never happened. Singer needs to go bosworth needs to go. Anything less and this flop will make the next look like Gone With The Wind.

Honestly, I would prefer a complete reboot...but u know that could take forever...if we get a sequel...it'll be a lot sooner than a complete reboot. but a reboot would be better...imo. Singer messed up on a few thngs with SR. a big problem i have is introducing the kid so soon...and having too many distractions
 
Triligors said:
Personally, I see him as a possible Metallo.

i guess we'll have to wait til 09...and i hope Singer is smart enough NOT to bring Zod back.
 
Well, not for the sequel- but, for part of the third film. Sequel, I'm thinking Brainiac is possible. It would be a nice transition from Superman Returns. Since Brainiac is a villain that is heavily related to 'alien technology' which was one of the aspects of SR. Brainiac is also an alien threat.

So, to me- Richard's possible transformation would be near the end of the sequel. A moment, an expression on his face, something that just tells us that it's not over yet. Similar to the Goblin scene in SM2. "You know something's going to happen" type moment and then further that in the third film (with an additional possible villain).
 
Nah, Richard should not be Metallo. That's silly. Maybe have Richard killed by Metallo :o

I always had the visualization of a fight with Metallo, and after a draw... looking like it's over... All the lights in the city go out and Superman hears a voice with his superhearing. That voice of course being Braniac, setting up the next film :up:
 
whatever happened to the box office thread???

I need a numbers fix Carp Man what is going on?
 
ThanosOfTitans said:
i guess we'll have to wait til 09...and i hope Singer is smart enough NOT to bring Zod back.


Boy, I hope you're right. Dump the kid, the boyfriend and all USED villians. I liked Routh though. And next time, let Supes punch something
 
Yes to the punching. No to dropping Jason. This is why I started the Save the Kid foundation. I just knew there'd be some kid-haters left who'd want him gone. Ok so he wasn't the most necessary aspect of the movie and was an obvious plot device thrown in to provide a cheap plot twist and resolution while complicating the relationship between supes, lois, and richard. I get it.

Of course I'll kill you singer, if you plan to have Lois not be with supes and then have supergirl come in and marry superman. I'll be really pissed then.

Anyway the kid will return. I just know it. He's not going to end up like Jar Jar.
 
WB will keep this idiot around until this thing flops on DVD. Then he's out. At this point they will only receive diminishing returns with Singer still in the pic for the sequel. They've crossed into Ang Lee territory here. They're only trying to find the right time to tell this ****er to get lost.
 
I had serious doubts about this movie before it came out because of Singers vision and it turned out I was right.

I definately do not want to see him back, we all gave him his shot and he blew it.

It's time for a new direction and a new director, Singers movie was just not original and not that exciting. I want them to start completely over with a new cast and a new production and a new director. I don't think it will happend though. Supermans Returns was a huge let down!
 
I'm looking forward to a sequel to SR. I really loved the movie, today I'm going to see it again. I think it wasn't a good idea if they'd start with a complete new movie. I mean.... I don't want the new Superman film to be like BB.
 
ec86 said:
I mean.... I don't want the new Superman film to be like BB.

G-d forbid they make a Superman film celebrated by fans and critics alike.




Seriously though, I'm happy you liked it, since many fans were clearly disappointed that it didn't live up to the expectations that one would have from the Greatest Superhero icon ever.
 
Even though it has its flaws, I want to see Singer finish this trilogy. At Comic-Con, he seemed to acknowledge that there were elements that he'd change and better understands now. I don't want another reboot -- everyone knows the tried and true origin -- I don't want to see that again. I think that would do MORE harm to the franchise at this point.

Bring back Singer, Bosworth, Routh, and Spacey -- and tell an original story.
 
romeogbs19 said:
Even though it has its flaws, I want to see Singer finish this trilogy. At Comic-Con, he seemed to acknowledge that there were elements that he'd change and better understands now. I don't want another reboot -- everyone knows the tried and true origin -- I don't want to see that again. I think that would do MORE harm to the franchise at this point.

Bring back Singer, Bosworth, Routh, and Spacey -- and tell an original story.

Ditto to that. I don't understand the reasoning for a reboot. That would pretty much make no sense at this point. Just let Singer finish this trilogy. I mean, I thought SR was a great film and I want to see where Singer goes from here on out.
 
romeogbs19 said:
Even though it has its flaws, I want to see Singer finish this trilogy. At Comic-Con, he seemed to acknowledge that there were elements that he'd change and better understands now. I don't want another reboot -- everyone knows the tried and true origin -- I don't want to see that again. I think that would do MORE harm to the franchise at this point.

Bring back Singer, Bosworth, Routh, and Spacey -- and tell an original story.

There's been just ONE origin story on film and it's almost 30 years old. Superman Fans have seen Superman's origin in other media, but not regular moviegoers. Singer proved it could've been done with the opening sequence of SR. He just chose to play it "safe" and rely on Donner's and The Adventures of Superman vision with better fx's.

romeogbs19 said:
Bring back Singer, Bosworth, Routh, and Spacey -- and tell an original story.

I agree. That's what he should've done in the first place.
 
I hope the sequel is going to have a better story, too. They should take Bryan as director, Brandon, Kate and Kevin as the main cast and someone else as another villain. Then it should be okay :D
 
The sequel has great potential.......

- Supermans son
- Bad a$$ villain asured whether it be Zod, Brainiac, or Darkseid, Mettalo
- the possiblities are endless....

:up:

restartting would be a waste of time.....
 
Superman1978 said:
Personally, I want to just do a reboot.

Pretend Superman Returns never happened the same way Superman Returns pretended parts 3 and 4 never happened.

No kid. New Cast (mabye). New Director (definetely). New story (definetely again).


You keep wishin on a star there buckaroo!!
 
there is going to be a sequell check out the FAQ on the sequel in my sig.....

I also want a reboot, but why not make a sequel to what we already have and improve on it....

Maybe in 2016 we can have a whole new start to Superman....(and I will be 24 years :up: and hopefully directing it :up: :) :D!
 
boywonder13 said:
there is going to be a sequell check out the FAQ on the sequel in my sig.....

I also want a reboot, but why not make a sequel to what we already have and improve on it....

Maybe in 2016 we can have a whole new start to Superman....(and I will be 24 years :up: and hopefully directing it :up: :) :D!

Sorry but you have no facts proving there will be a sequel so please do not say such nonsense without actual proof to back it up.

SR's sequel at this time lies in the DVD sales and they had better do no less than 100 mil to expect a sequel based on its lackluster BO numbers.

With 100 mil in DVD sales it will still be debatable whether the 460 or so million it will have taken in at that point is enough to call for a sequel.
 
There will definitely be a sequel. "production president Jeff Robinov" said that there will be one in 2009
 

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