Superman Returns Do you want a sequel, or start over from scratch?

[ec86]

Every other director that was attached, wanted to change the suit. I definetly wasn't ok with that.

Every other director attached, wanted to re-write the history the donner films set for us. Me, being a Donner fan... would have been pretty pissed if they just disreguarded the work done in those films.

Bryan stayed very, VERY, true to Superman's roots, and there is nothing more that I ask. Only problem I can think of, was the kid in the movie... but even that played off perfect in the end, IMO.

I don't trust this movie with any other director but Bryan because I know he isn't a guy just looking for explosions and a popcorn flick. He made the movie clever, smart, and added an interesting take on Superman. Some people might not agree, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if Bryan would have strayed far away from the Donner flicks, and made a Superman movie with a different suit, sayyy... black leather, I'm sure you guys woulda been ticked. Way ticked. Superman was never an MTV style pop icon. He's a frickin legend, and deserved the ultimate treatment. Yes, we do need a little more action in the next one. But I still want the character depth this one had.

Here's hoping Bryan and crew come back for another one.

I totally agree with this post.

Me too, in the most parts. I think the movie is so well done, the costume is cool, the actors are as well. The only thing that doesn't have the same depth is the story. But even in this point I think it was a good choice to "reintroduce" Superman to younger people. I've never seen the Donner films in theatre (I was way too young at that time ), so it was really amazing for me to see at least one Superman movie in theatre. I love the Donner films and Bryan is a great director. That he took the chance to do a hommage to those movies is pretty good. And there HAD to be something new (Jason and Richard), because otherwise everyone would have said: "Oh, that's a new Donner film" and I actually like the Superman Returns, because it doesn't have too much action. I didn't like X3, because it had too much of it. Superman Returns is a great mixture between comedy, romance, action and fun.

 

[boywonder13]

Me too, in the most parts. I think the movie is so well done, the costume is cool, the actors are as well. The only thing that doesn't have the same depth is the story. But even in this point I think it was a good choice to "reintroduce" Superman to younger people. I've never seen the Donner films in theatre (I was way too young at that time ), so it was really amazing for me to see at least one Superman movie in theatre. I love the Donner films and Bryan is a great director. That he took the chance to do a hommage to those movies is pretty good. And there HAD to be something new (Jason and Richard), because otherwise everyone would have said: "Oh, that's a new Donner film" and I actually like the Superman Returns, because it doesn't have too much action. I didn't like X3, because it had too much of it. Superman Returns is a great mixture between comedy, romance, action and fun.

agreed

but the movie needs more action, better pacing,and stronger and dynamic plot to make it perfect....

 

[Tempest19]

agreed

but the movie needs more action, better pacing,and stronger and dynamic plot to make it perfect....

 

[ec86]

yeah a little bit more action, maybe. But not only action like in X3. I wanna see character development and feelings in the movie and IMO X3 had only action and nothing more. But that's another topic the plot has to be more logical, I think. And yeah, if the movie has all, action, emotions and a good plot, then everything should be ok right, I forgot to mention that it shouldn't be as long as SR. IDK why, but I felt it was a little bit too long. To be honest, I wouldn't know which scenes could have been cut out. And boywonder, your siggy says everything I love Spacey as Lex and he has to return for a sequel. And Brainiac and Zod would be cool

 

[The Kid]

Part of me wants to see superman being a good father in the next one. Like say... what if Jason has a date and superman, sort of, spies on them to make sure his son isn't being naughty. stuff like that

 

[Immortalfire]

Every other director that was attached, wanted to change the suit. I definetly wasn't ok with that.

Every other director attached, wanted to re-write the history the donner films set for us. Me, being a Donner fan... would have been pretty pissed if they just disreguarded the work done in those films.

Bryan stayed very, VERY, true to Superman's roots, and there is nothing more that I ask. Only problem I can think of, was the kid in the movie... but even that played off perfect in the end, IMO.

I don't trust this movie with any other director but Bryan because I know he isn't a guy just looking for explosions and a popcorn flick. He made the movie clever, smart, and added an interesting take on Superman. Some people might not agree, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if Bryan would have strayed far away from the Donner flicks, and made a Superman movie with a different suit, sayyy... black leather, I'm sure you guys woulda been ticked. Way ticked. Superman was never an MTV style pop icon. He's a frickin legend, and deserved the ultimate treatment. Yes, we do need a little more action in the next one. But I still want the character depth this one had.

Here's hoping Bryan and crew come back for another one.

Dude, how much did Bryan pay you for this?

 

[Tempest19]

Lol. Why does everybody rush to 'conspiracy theory'? At times this board makes me laugh, it seems like a bunch of UFO fanatics- only this time superheroes and their film properties. LMAO, this is way too much.

 

[Caliber]

They should have restarted in the first place and not done a sequal with some connection bs excuse.

 

[MFM]

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[Demonic12]

Sequal with Singer onboard, of course. He made a great film and can't wait to see what happens next.

 

[boywonder13]

Superman Returns was the only Superman movie to have a really good sequel potential.....

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

Part of me wants to see superman being a good father in the next one. Like say... what if Jason has a date and superman, sort of, spies on them to make sure his son isn't being naughty. stuff like that

That would be absolutely ridiculous.
hehehe.

 

[NateGray]

Every other director that was attached, wanted to change the suit. I definetly wasn't ok with that.

Every other director attached, wanted to re-write the history the donner films set for us. Me, being a Donner fan... would have been pretty pissed if they just disreguarded the work done in those films.

Bryan stayed very, VERY, true to Superman's roots, and there is nothing more that I ask. Only problem I can think of, was the kid in the movie... but even that played off perfect in the end, IMO.

I don't trust this movie with any other director but Bryan because I know he isn't a guy just looking for explosions and a popcorn flick. He made the movie clever, smart, and added an interesting take on Superman. Some people might not agree, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if Bryan would have strayed far away from the Donner flicks, and made a Superman movie with a different suit, sayyy... black leather, I'm sure you guys woulda been ticked. Way ticked. Superman was never an MTV style pop icon. He's a frickin legend, and deserved the ultimate treatment. Yes, we do need a little more action in the next one. But I still want the character depth this one had.

Here's hoping Bryan and crew come back for another one.

Please get your facts straight Singer did not even attempt to stay true to Superman's roots unless you mean him putting in things like a shot in the movie of the cover of superman issue number 1 that is not staying true to his roots.
Singer made his version of Superman based off his only source STM.
In your opinion it was clever and smart in alot of other peoples opinion it was neither clever or smart and almost a direct ripoff of STM so how you can call it clever or smart boggles the mind.

Why do you think he would have had a black suit????just because some bad written script in the 90's had him that way????
Did it occur to you that if a writer/director team stayed truer to the comic we probably would have gotten that Superman movie that rivaled the Spiderman movies in both quality and BO money....

Yes he is an icon and a legend to bad SR did not portray him that way and the BO numbers agree with me....

Here's to hoping they do not bring Singer back for a sequel and we actually get a Superman that is based of the real source material the COMIC BOOKS not STM.

 

[Demonic12]

Definitely a sequel. Singer did a great job, not perfect- but, great. 9/10 definitely. And worldwide box office is going to end up on par are close to BB- another great superhero film and top favorite. So, 2009 can't come fast enough.

 

[NateGray]

Definitely a sequel. Singer did a great job, not perfect- but, great. 9/10 definitely. And worldwide box office is going to end up on par are close to BB- another great superhero film and top favorite. So, 2009 can't come fast enough.

BB costs almost 100 million less to make so saying it will do that well is a joke since it can never do as well as BB only earning as much as BB did it will need to make like 100 million more to equal BB in profit at the BO and that is just not going to happen since its run at the BO is almost over.

Also no sequel has been green light yet and most likley will not be until after DVD sales are tallied and even then it could still show a loss if it doesn't sell at least 100 millionin DVD's and I do not think they will green light a 2009 sequel for a movie that cost them money.

 

[Demonic12]

Not success wise, but number of people that went to the film is not determined by budget it is determined by the final box office numbers regardless of what the budget might or might not be.

So, BB was ALOT more successful than SR due to it's budget. But, both films attracted close to the same number of people in the audience when looking at the numbers. And that can not be ignored.

And, feel free to think whatever you want, no one knows what the final outcome will be. I know I won't lose sleep over what you think will or will not happen- that's for sure.

 

[Venom71]

It is hilarious to me how the thought of a sequel to SR upsets some people so much....remember these words people: It is only A movie.....it is not live or death.....if you don't like it you don't have to go and see it.

 

[NateGray]

Not success wise, but number of people that went to the film is not determined by budget it is determined by the final box office numbers regardless of what the budget might or might not be.

So, BB was ALOT more successful than SR due to it's budget. But, both films attracted close to the same number of people in the audience when looking at the numbers. And that can not be ignored.

And, feel free to think whatever you want, no one knows what the final outcome will be. I know I won't lose sleep over what you think will or will not happen- that's for sure.

Again not even close ticket costs rise each year so to say SR sold as many tickets while making the same money as BB when tickets for BB were about a dollar cheaper per ticket....is just not the case BB made more money and sold more tickets.

And trust me I will not loose any sleep over your posts either you are just another person who refuses to admit facts you are just one among many Singer defenders who doesn't like those pesky facts and refuses to acknowledge them and even attempts to twist them to suit your needs as you are trying to do here....

 

[Demonic12]

Right and um, I'll assume you aren't bias- lol, don't make me laugh.

Sure, inflation is a possibility- but went up that much.... no one knows, thus everything is speculation.

 

[NateGray]

Right and um, I'll assume you aren't bias- lol, don't make me laugh.

Hmm where did I claim not to be smart ass????
I do not want him back and have said so.
I have also posted that while I could overlook the many flaws the movie had because to me the good outweighted the bad just barley IMO, that does not take away the many flaws the movie had which means most peoples complaints about the movie are valid and I acknowledge that do you????
I am betting not and you probably will defend the lifting NK part with Kryponite still stuck in him right????

umm ticket pricing rising yearly is NOT speculation thats a fact check it for yourself they have risen around a dollar in the past year or so.

 

[Demonic12]

as BB when tickets for BB were about a dollar cheaper per ticket.

BOM Ticket inflation

Lol, now that's funny- a dollar?! You don't say?!!

 

[Demonic12]

Hmm where did I claim not to be smart ass????

At least you admit you're bias, not many anti would do that here.

I am betting not and you probably will defend the lifting NK part with Kryponite still stuck in him right????

As said before, imo, the film was great- but not perfect. 9/10. So, no there were some plot holes- but, in my eye almost every film has plot holes. So as said, imo, great but not perfect.

umm ticket pricing rising yearly is NOT speculation thats a fact check it for yourself they have risen around a dollar in the past year or so.

Um, I DID check for myself /\ and is it really a dollar or can you just not count? More like around 18 cents. Unless, you can prove otherwise- I'll go off the link above.

 

[NateGray]

BOM Ticket inflation

Lol, now that's funny- a dollar?! You don't say?!!

LMAO yeh that sites valid NOT where can you go see a movie for 6.58 they are 8-10 dollars now and last year they were 7-9.

Still searching I do see where there are a couple adjustments being nearer 20 cents but I know where I live it was a dollar jump so I will continue to search.
Until then we can agree to disagree since you want Singer back and I do not we are pretty much done and just arguing for arguing's sake.
So have a nice day see ya in the funnies....

 

[Demonic12]

Maybe where you live- but not here bub. That's the average ticket inflation- which means that it includes all the varying prices. You do know that ticket price is different depending on where you live, right?

 

[Tony Stark]

It is hilarious to me how the thought of a sequel to SR upsets some people so much....remember these words people: It is only A movie.....it is not live or death.....if you don't like it you don't have to go and see it.

A sequal doesn't upset me, a sequal with Singer directing and that stupid kid upsets me.

Singer ruined Superman more than anyone in the history of comics. I don't think they have to do a "reboot" per-say, just get rid of Singer, and ignore much of the stuff that happened in SR.