Superman Returns Does Kryptonite exposure give Jason superpowers?

[The Kid]

Maybe the chamber didn't destroy his powers on the genetic level (we don't really know how the rays work anyway) so Superman's Kryptonian genes could've been passed on to Jason.

It only supressed his powers much like kryptonite does, only 'permanently' but does not rearrange his dna, at least the sperm dna. that's my theory.

 

[dark_b]

Here's a bigger plot hole (concerning Jason too):

When Superman banged (or impragnated, whatever you wanna call it) Lois in Superman 2 he had to give up his powers....so how come Jason ended with superpowers at all?

Or maybe I just remember the order of sequences wrong...I dunno...

show me where singer said that this happened before SR?

 

[Paul777]

There's that scene where someone jokes with Lois about one of her Superman articles called 'I spent the night with Superman'. It's implied from Lois defensive reaction that it wasn't just a dinner date *nudge, wink*.

 

[nogster]

u are wrong paul777.
"i spent the night with superman" was the 1st article she wrote about him in the 1st movie, when she interviewed him and he took her on a romantic flight. thats all that happened.
unless his xray vision can project supersperm through her pink undies..!
hey he did worse in singers movie...

 

[rdh007]

the kid sure does have good aim

So, apparently, did his dad...

 

[american psycho]

theres one thing i don't understand. why did jason hurl a piano? did jason know that he had super powers before? if he did then i would understand throwing a piano. but think of this; if you a kid and someone is hurting your mom, would you try and throw something that you couldn't lift across an entire room, or would you run up and do the little kid thing where you hit him on the side like little kids do? i know i'm nitpicking now, but the fact that he didn't know he had powers before, why would he all of a sudden try and throw a piano?

 

[The Kid]

Children think they're invincible little supermen. Jason actually was.

I won't lie. It makes no sense. He has no idea he has powers so where'd he pick up the idea that he could chuck that piano?

But it looked cool. I loved how the piano came wooshing through and wacking that dumb jerk with his stupid dog tatoo.

It's a silly ridiculous moment done for laughs. Not much more to it than that.

 

[skruloos]

Children think they're invincible little supermen. Jason actually was.

I won't lie. It makes no sense. He has no idea he has powers so where'd he pick up the idea that he could chuck that piano?

I don't think he knew he could move the piano. He might have just been mad and pushed on the piano out of anger. But I suppose it's one of those things we'll never know.

 

[The Kid]

I don't think he knew he could move the piano. He might have just been mad and pushed on the piano out of anger. But I suppose it's one of those things we'll never know.

I suppose now that he's discovered his new talent he'll want to practice it more often as well.

Jason Forever

 

[Hoedowned]

show me where singer said that this happened before SR?

Nowhere. But since the first 2 movies are a type of vague history...

But this idea of just supressing his powers is somewhat convincing

 

[NHawk19]

It was just disturbing that the kid used the piano to kill someone. . . .That's not what \S/ is about.

 

[dark_b]

It was just disturbing that the kid used the piano to kill someone. . . .That's not what \S/ is about.

it is a very simple scene. you dont need a high IQ to understand it.

 

[JTStarkiller]

I remember somone awhile back listing their complaints of the film, and "Singer doesn't know what kryptonite does to Superman" was one of them.

I'm no expert, so what exactly does kryptonite do to Superman that the film got wrong? Just curious. Thanks.

 

[The Kid]

It causes unbearable pain that demobilizes superman. That's why he couldn't easily swim out of the pool in STM. In returns it seems to me like kryptonite doesn't do more than suck his powers away now. Still there's no way Lex could hope to punch a big guy like routh and not at least hurt his hand doing it... weird. oh well... ah, I forgot. Also kryptonite's not as potent as it used to be since a tiny piece seems to be less harmful to supes than a shiv sized piece. It usually doesn't matte what size it is, kryptonite will have the same impact on superman.

 

[JTStarkiller]

He seemed pretty demobillzed to me, so what was the inaccurate moment? Was it his ability to stand up before falling over the edge, or that the knife piece inside him didn't hurt him enough, or that he shouldn't have been able to lift the island?

Not knocking your answer, I'm just confused is all.

 

[The Kid]

If kryptonite had the same effect it did in stm, superman would have felt very ill while walking around on Otisberg.

 

[nogster]

He seemed pretty demobillzed to me, so what was the inaccurate moment? Was it his ability to stand up before falling over the edge, or that the knife piece inside him didn't hurt him enough, or that he shouldn't have been able to lift the island?

Not knocking your answer, I'm just confused is all.

its the glaring contradiction the movie makes about kryptonites effect on superman.
the film shows us just how powerfull kryptonite is to supes with the lex bashing scene. supes was totally powerless as he got thrashed by lex and co. he couldnt even defend himself at all. then lex stabs him which is the death blow[supposedly]. he was useless on the island. this is a fact. his hands were burning from the kryptonite which was shown to be everywhere and he was stabbed with it.
but then lois takes the shard out of him. and we, the viewers are decieved into believing she got it all out as supes immediatley gets up, shakes himself off and proceeds to fly into the outer atmosphere to "power up".
now judging by the rules the film established in the previous scene, there is no way he shouldve been able to get up and fly away if he had kryptonite inbedded in him. but at this time, we the viewers had no knowledge of this so we go along with supes "sacrifice". even if supes lifting this island that made him powerless in the 1st place is illogical, but the real killer is when the doctor pulls out remnants of the stabbed shard. it throws out all the movie showed before it. there is no way supes couldve gotten up and flown out of the plane to get a suncharge with kryptonite in him.
he should never of been able to do what he did. lifting an entire island of the stuff into space in the 1st place. its his only achilles heel. doing all this with the stuff inside him is just ridiculous.

 

[dark_b]

It causes unbearable pain that demobilizes superman. That's why he couldn't easily swim out of the pool in STM. In returns it seems to me like kryptonite doesn't do more than suck his powers away now. Still there's no way Lex could hope to punch a big guy like routh and not at least hurt his hand doing it... weird. oh well... ah, I forgot. Also kryptonite's not as potent as it used to be since a tiny piece seems to be less harmful to supes than a shiv sized piece. It usually doesn't matte what size it is, kryptonite will have the same impact on superman.

well in SR it matters. in one of the blogs teh writters said that sun gives him power and that kryptonite is radioactive pieces from hes homeworld. so he wanted it to be like on earth. if it is bigger it will be more radioactive.

 

[War Lord]

This was something I noticed in the film. Jason stares at the Kryptonite, for a long time but it doesnt make him weaker. It obviously had some effect on him but it wasnt clear what.

Then, Jason suddenly had the strength to push that piano and didnt need his inhaler anymore...

Does Kryptonite actually give Jason superpowers? Thats quite a reversal.

Most kids can't act, so they rely on the adults acting for them.

If you watch the scene, it's obvous that Luthor supposedly noticed the kid reacting badly towards the kryptonite. That's why he held it up to him again to validate his suspicions.

The reason why the kid suddenly had super-strength, was because his mom was in mortal danger and it got his adrenaline going. It may also have changed his body chemistry and that's why he suddenly didn't need the inhaler.

 

[NHawk19]

it is a very simple scene. you dont need a high IQ to understand it.

I get the scene. The kids mom was threated he reacted in a surprising manner to protect her.

What I dont get is why they went the extra mile to establish that he was killed and not just knocked out. Why turn a 5 year old into a killer?

 

[The Kid]

well in SR it matters. in one of the blogs teh writters said that sun gives him power and that kryptonite is radioactive pieces from hes homeworld. so he wanted it to be like on earth. if it is bigger it will be more radioactive.

i guess that's how it works now, yes. I wonder how big it has to be to hurt superman like it does in stm, probably as big as a country. Imagine if Luthor tried to put this new kryptonite around superman's neck. supes would just take it off and throw it away wouldn't he...

 

[raybia]

This was something I noticed in the film. Jason stares at the Kryptonite, for a long time but it doesnt make him weaker. It obviously had some effect on him but it wasnt clear what.

Then, Jason suddenly had the strength to push that piano and didnt need his inhaler anymore...

Does Kryptonite actually give Jason superpowers? Thats quite a reversal.

Exposure to the Kryptonite actually triggered his latent Kryptonian DNA. If exposed again, Kryptonite would harm him.

 

[dark_b]

i guess that's how it works now, yes. I wonder how big it has to be to hurt superman like it does in stm, probably as big as a country. Imagine if Luthor tried to put this new kryptonite around superman's neck. supes would just take it off and throw it away wouldn't he...

well it would work in the 70's. but for todays kids it is not enough. a stab with kryptonite is the way to go.

 

[The Kid]

well it would work in the 70's. but for todays kids it is not enough. a stab with kryptonite is the way to go.

Kids love stabbing.

 

[nogster]

well it would work in the 70's. but for todays kids it is not enough. a stab with kryptonite is the way to go.

and even then it didnt prohibit supes from commiting his greatest feat in the film.
it seems to singer, krytonite only makes supes weak and powerless when the story demands it.