Doesit bother you that this installment will have fewer CGI elements?

[ProfeZZor X]

After listening to Leterrier's comment...

"I can already tell you that I don't intend to use as much 3D as the first movie did. As for the budget, it will be over 100 millions".

I find it disturbing that the effects for this film might be fewer than the first movie. As it stands, the Hulk appeared four times in the first film. Is he saying he will have even fewer appearances this time around? Or, is he hinting that there will be a human actor playing the Hulk.... I certainly hope not in either situation. It makes it kind of hard to jump from the somewhat-likeable CGI green goliath in the first film, to having a real person half that size. And I hope to God they don't do that full body suit like they did in Hellboy, or Hyde, from "League of Extrordinary Gentlemen"... I'd rather shoot myself.

What do you think is going to happen?

 

[Ions]

I think they'll go for a man in suit. And redesign Hulk so he looks more like the guy in the suit. The action will be slowed down to be more affordable, and to make it more in line with the usual hollywood action. CGI Hulk will be there for the bigger action scenes. The way LL talks about it, the film may have a lesser budget than the first. And he isn't a fan of lots of cgi.

 

[webhead731]

I liked the CGI Hulk. But unless they can get a human actor who is tall and has very big arms and legs I want CGI.

Isn't Abomination supposed to be in this?

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Well given the advancement in technology I have some hope that they will use a mixture and the Hulk will still be huge at a size of 10ft.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

Hopefully Hulk will look far more feral in this movie as well. I think less cgi could be a good thing here.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Even though i would prefer the Hulk to be all CGI again, a mix of CGI and animatronics doesnt sound too bad.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Hopefully Hulk will look far more feral in this movie as well. I think less cgi could be a good thing here.

A perfect example of how well CGI characters can be beneficial are Golem, and King Kong. Both characters owned in their respective movies. And having a "reverse Hobit" effect with a human in a muscle suit is not what I would consider doing the character justice. In Superman, Spiderman, and even in Batman (Begins), each situation that called for CGI was done tastefully (except the Peter Parker roof jumps), but at the same time, there no morphing into larger versions. Seeing the nanomeds under the Hulk's skin change and evolve him into a larger version of himself is far better than seeing a guy in a suit grow - with digital enhancements.

And with today's advancements in CGI technology, it makes no sense to mess up the continuity of the character with this move. After all, if audiences don't like this new version of him, you can kiss any following sequels goodbye, because studios are less likely going to change back to an all CGI character. However, it would be a lot easier to add in feral elements to the Hulk through the existing CGI model, versus conventional hair and makeup applications on a live human, which, by the way, can take up to 6 hours to apply.

Also, with a CGI character, you can get the expressions and exact movement you want out of it, compared to a person that's not familiar with the Hulk character. Not only that, but matching a human actor up against a CGI Abomination in a fight might not look all that hot.

 

[Kaboom]

im thinking man in suit....HOWEVER....idont know if we'll get a green hulk, maybe we'll get a Mr. Fixit.

 

[<(o_o)>]

I would hate it if they go & completely change the look of Hulk for the second movie, but if it means that is the only way we are getting a sequel then I can look over it.

 

[Nivek]

I was very dismissive of the use of CGI in the first film, but after seeing it in action, was impressed to the 10th degree. Say what you will about Ang's take on the film, but he flat out nailed how the Hulk should look, and move. They made him twice as big as he should've been, but dammit, that was the Hulk. A bodybuilder or big Wrestler painted green doesn't come close in comparison.

 

[neemer5]

Clever shooting and coloring can really pull off the CGI effect. Look at the Chris Cunningham music videos, they are seriously an amazing design study on how to use CGI, and some are almost 10 years old.

But blending the CGI with animatronics worked well in Jurassic Park 3.

I am personally going to campaign for Andy Serkis.
His roles have had the best compromise of CGI and live action to date.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

I think the hulk lacked detail that would've been prevalent on an actual body. I thought his face was far too "pretty". His size was way too big. Besides it might not be possible to do the Hulk within budget all CGI. I'm sure if it looks as bad as everyones thinking they'll go another direction though. I'm willing to wait and see what they come up with.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I was very dismissive of the use of CGI in the first film, but after seeing it in action, was impressed to the 10th degree. Say what you will about Ang's take on the film, but he flat out nailed how the Hulk should look, and move. They made him twice as big as he should've been, but dammit, that was the Hulk. A bodybuilder or big Wrestler painted green doesn't come close in comparison.

I completely agree with you. And I'm not claiming to be a diehard Hulk fan, but I do know that the Hulk grows as he gets angrier. And when they showed that during the house scene, it just goes to show that CGI (or animatronics) can go a long way to get the desired effect that you want... Far more than any painted actor or green bodybuilder.

 

[Nivek]

but I do know that the Hulk grows as he gets angrier .

Thanks for agreeing with me earlier, but thats a major misconception. The Hulk gets stronger the more angry he gets, but he does not change size. That was something the film makers added to show his strength increse. That was a major let down for me, but I hope that changes in future adaptions.

 

[Sava]

Nivek is right, its just different artists drawing him in different sizes... sometimes even in the same book.

 

[ISHMAEL]

I think the hulk lacked detail that would've been prevalent on an actual body. I thought his face was far too "pretty". His size was way too big. Besides it might not be possible to do the Hulk within budget all CGI. I'm sure if it looks as bad as everyones thinking they'll go another direction though. I'm willing to wait and see what they come up with.

his face looked too human and like eric bana. it needs a more savage/monster look to it

 

[borinquenknight]

I was very dismissive of the use of CGI in the first film, but after seeing it in action, was impressed to the 10th degree. Say what you will about Ang's take on the film, but he flat out nailed how the Hulk should look, and move. They made him twice as big as he should've been, but dammit, that was the Hulk. A bodybuilder or big Wrestler painted green doesn't come close in comparison.

Exactly. I think they did a great job of establishing the movieverse Hulk and shouldn't mess with a proven thing.

 

[combocaz]

I hope they keep him the same size, cause i had no problem with him being that big and please god dont use a guy in a suit. CGI all the way and just get rid of the split screens

 

[EternalMaster]

The CGI in Hulk 1 looked like garbage on some scenes, guys. Sorry to say this, but most of the general crowds who saw the film thought the same.

Some scenes WERE good. But others? Downright cartoony... like him doing the big desert jumps, Hulk trapped in the foam hallway, and Hulk fighting the gamma dogs. The CGI looked so friggin' ridiculous in those scenes.

Still, CGI wouldn't be a bad way to go if someone could do it correctly this time (ie: no 20-ft tall Hulk). I mean, c'mon. The T-Rex in Jurassic Park was about 20 feet tall. You can't have Hulk get that big. It just looks insane, especially since the huge size scenes coresponded often with the CGI department making his skin almost neon green in color.

And CGI can be done well. Just look at Kong, Gollum, the first two Jurassic Park movies... all exceptionally good.

Ang Lee going light on the action and heavy on the CGI is partly why the series is getting rebooted. Hulk's 2nd weekend drop-off in box office was too huge. Audiences and critics started bashing the film for its fake looking CGI. And DVD sales did well, but nothing spectacular.

So here we are. A Hulk reboot. And the new director wants less CGI. Eh. I can't blame him.

Something like Mr. Hyde from LXG wouldn't be too bad. Mixing a body suit, prosthetics, and CGI all in one. That way the head and face belong to the actor while the body is mostly CGI. LXG itself sucked, but the Hyde effects were very good.

Also, with a CGI character, you can get the expressions and exact movement you want out of it, compared to a person that's not familiar with the Hulk character.

lol! That's pretty hilarious. "A person who is not familiar with the Hulk character" much like the CGI artists from Hulk 1? God, his face looked so friggin' weird in that film, even in the scenes where the CGI looked good. I'd rather take my chances on a trained ACTOR. Y'know... those people who Holloywood has relied on for decades. The ones who are supposed to study their roles and know how to express all forms of emotion?

When a CGI guy messes up, we get a bouncy green cartoony giant on the screen with overly waxy looking skin and a baby-round face.

When an actor messes up, we just have someone who doesn't quite look mad or angry enough.

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

I liked the CGI Hulk. But unless they can get a human actor who is tall and has very big arms and legs I want CGI.

Isn't Abomination supposed to be in this?

Even with a guy like The Rock, it'd probably look weird

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

The CGI in Hulk 1 looked like garbage on some scenes, guys. Sorry to say this, but most of the general crowds who saw the film thought the same.

Some scenes WERE good. But others? Downright cartoony... like him doing the big desert jumps, Hulk trapped in the foam hallway, and Hulk fighting the gamma dogs. The CGI looked so friggin' ridiculous in those scenes.

Still, CGI wouldn't be a bad way to go if someone could do it correctly this time (ie: no 20-ft tall Hulk). I mean, c'mon. The T-Rex in Jurassic Park was about 20 feet tall. You can't have Hulk get that big. It just looks insane, especially since the huge size scenes coresponded often with the CGI department making his skin almost neon green in color.

And CGI can be done well. Just look at Kong, Gollum, the first two Jurassic Park movies... all exceptionally good.

Ang Lee going light on the action and heavy on the CGI is partly why the series is getting rebooted. Hulk's 2nd weekend drop-off in box office was too huge. Audiences and critics started bashing the film for its fake looking CGI. And DVD sales did well, but nothing spectacular.

So here we are. A Hulk reboot. And the new director wants less CGI. Eh. I can't blame him.

Something like Mr. Hyde from LXG wouldn't be too bad. Mixing a body suit, prosthetics, and CGI all in one. That way the head and face belong to the actor while the body is mostly CGI. LXG itself sucked, but the Hyde effects were very good.



lol! That's pretty hilarious. "A person who is not familiar with the Hulk character" much like the CGI artists from Hulk 1? God, his face looked so friggin' weird in that film, even in the scenes where the CGI looked good. I'd rather take my chances on a trained ACTOR. Y'know... those people who Holloywood has relied on for decades. The ones who are supposed to study their roles and know how to express all forms of emotion?

When a CGI guy messes up, we get a bouncy green cartoony giant on the screen with overly waxy looking skin and a baby-round face.

When an actor messes up, we just have someone who doesn't quite look mad or angry enough.

I thought that the CGI in jurassic park 3 was good...

 

[DACMAN]

Did you guys notice how the DVD art and the promo art changed? They made it lighter because people expected it to look like the promo art and where disappointed. If robotics will give us a closer HULK to the promo stuff I'm all for it.

 

[DACMAN]

Example

 

[Wyrminarrd]

The only thing that they could do that´s worse then having a guy in a suit would be to have a guy in a suit playing the grey hulk.

If this movie doesn´t stick with the CGI green version of the Hulk (with perhaps a few changes to his face) then I´ll be very dissapointed. A guy in a suit is just about the only thing they can do to that will keep me from going to see this movie

 

[Dynasty]

stick with CGI and stick with Bana, The Hulk looked like Eric as if he was the Hulk if they change that then everyones going to be like WTF?