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Dragon Age 2 Incoming.

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Anyone want a laugh? Go read the ridiculous and completely unwarranted bawwwing in the official Dragon Age II forums. :funny:

I frequent that place.

Apparently, Bioware fans hate Bioware games. Go figure.
 
Yeah, I do too.

I posted a couple of threads yesterday to try and inject a little optimism in the forum, but most people were determined they were going to act like a bunch of ******** morons.
 
Noob question:

The main character Hawke looks like a badass warrior, but the game allows Hawke to be either Rogue, Warrior or Mage right? Yeah this is the shocker where i say i haven't played any Mass Effect games, but i will! I got a brand new PC, but ive been enjoying DAO too much right now. ;]
 
Yeah, you can play whatever class you want.
 
Yeah, I do too.

I posted a couple of threads yesterday to try and inject a little optimism in the forum, but most people were determined they were going to act like a bunch of ******** morons.

I'm annoyed myself by some of the changes, I want a non-speaking character with different options for race and starting point, not a a voiced Shepard character with a potentially super linear story. Also in Mass Effect I feel like I am directing a characters story than being the character herself, not the case with Dragon Age. Looking at the forums, they are being presumptuous about alot of things, we still know pretty much no next to nothing.

Also, confirmed character will be voiced.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx

Edit: Someone posted this on the forums with a direct link to play.com, it's a banner, they are saying it's the first leaked Dragon Age 2 screens, not sure if true but they are directly linked to play.com's website in URL.

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I love the storytelling style of Mass Effect, personally. Origins' felt a little dry to me. Ironic, perhaps, since I fell in love with BioWare because of KotOR, which had the same storytelling style as Origins, but I feel like ME progressed their style to a whole new level.

Either way, I hope DA2 at least looks as good as Mass Effect 2. I'm not sure why, but Origins didn't look anywhere near as good to me. The lighting and everything seemed like it was lagging behind what BioWare proved they were capable of on the ME series. Maybe it's a different sub-studio within BioWare or something...
 
Origins didn't look too bad out-side of the horrendously low res textures on the environments, thankfully they could be modded. Mass Effect always felt like a "make your own story" adventure game than role playing to me. If these screenshots are dragon age 2 they don't look very impressive or really all that different, could be misleading, they are very small, or fake, obviously.
 
Yeah, looks like pretty much the same engine. You're right, it's definitely the textures that drag Origins' looks down. I'm playing it on PS3, so unfortunately I don't get to mod anything. :csad: It's not terrible, just a bit distracting when I remember how great ME2 looked.
 
Yeah, it wasn't very good looking on consoles, but honestly I don't think it looks that much better on PC. I'm kind of baffled why the game wasn't as polished as Mass Effect 2 when Dragon Age was in development twice as long.
 
Yeah, looks like pretty much the same engine. You're right, it's definitely the textures that drag Origins' looks down. I'm playing it on PS3, so unfortunately I don't get to mod anything. :csad: It's not terrible, just a bit distracting when I remember how great ME2 looked.

I noticed quite a few low res textures in that game also, mostly on the character models than the environment. Some models such as Samara look fantastic, others like Garrus look abit on the blotchy side close up.

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I'm kind of baffled why the game wasn't as polished as Mass Effect 2 when Dragon Age was in development twice as long.

Probably because of different engines with different methods of building the game up.
 
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This is a comment from someone who apparently read the gameinformer article early due to being a subscriber. It kind of has a minor spoiler, at least I think it counts as one regarding a character from the previous game. That, and it's a big wall of quote.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/3054393/4

Alright, just finished reading the DA2 article in my GI mag. WARNING! I am going to be posting some of the things that really stand out. (To me anyway) So if you don't want to know, skip my post.



1) We will be able to import our DA:O games into DA2.



2) We will see Flemeth at some point.



3) Pissing off party members won't always be a bad thing. "They won't necessarily leave. They may still join you, but they're going to try to show you up, and that may influence battle in a different way."



4) We're getting the ME2 conversation wheel, but this time instead of having some dialogue be a particular color the center of the wheel will show a symbol to show what kind of reply it is. (The article uses the examples of them being something like aggressive or sarcastic)



5) The way the story unfolds will be very different compared to the past Bioware games. "Dragon Age II has a framed narrative structure, which means that the exploits of Hawke occured in the past, but are being retold in the present." "Narrators with unique insights into the events in question tell the tale of his past adventures."



6) We may get to see some of the DA:O events at the start from a different perspective. "Dragon Age II begins as the events of Origins are still taking place, so you may see some familiar events from a different angle."



7) Because of the game spanning a decade, we get to see the consequences of our actions sooner, rather than in a little text at the end of the game.



8) The PC version's combat system remains mostly the same. "The PC version implements the same strategic approach afforded by a mouse-and-keyboard control scheme." "Rather than try to mimic the PC experience on consoles, Dragon Age II has a battle system more tailored to the strengths of the PS3 and 360."


The Elite Elite wrote...

I have a year subscription to the mag. (Most of the time when the month's mag gets to my house I think "This was just a waste of money subscribing to this thing because I don't care about 99% of these games" but once in a while like this month it is totally worth the subscription) So I believe you'll have to wait a bit before this one hits news stands. @Tiuwaz, no I don't recall seeing anything about the length of DA2 in the article.

Nice summery. Only thing I read a bit differently is that they didn't
exactly say that you can import your DA:O game, just that your
decisions would carry over, even if you play on a different system.
Well, one of the exact quotes is "You may be controlling a different character in Dragon Age II, but the choices your Grey Warden made in Origins are still imported from your save and reflected in the world." So it sounds like, to me anyway, that you'll be able to import saves from Origins like you can import ME1 saves to ME2. Just now you'll also be able to import saves from one platform to another. (Though I'm curious how they'll pull that one off)
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From reading that section of the article they seem to say that the PC version is pretty much the same, while the console versions have been upgraded to have the action feel faster and more responsive than Origins did.

Edit: Woah, lots of posts past what I was replying to. Alright I'll try to answer what I can.

PC combat is going to remain pretty much the way it currently is. It's the console versions that are being upgraded.

It doesn't talk about the conversation system in great detail. Just says "Dragon Age II uses a conversation system similar to Mass Effect's, where players select paraphrased versions of the dialogue from a wheel. An icon in the middle of the wheel even illustrates the line's basic intent (like aggressive or sarcastice), so you can focus more on the interaction rather than reading and analyzing your dialogue choices."

It made no mention of the dialogue system with party members.
The Elite Elite wrote...

ThomasAndrew wrote...

The Elite Elite wrote...

From reading that section of the article they seem to say that the PC version is pretty much the same, while the console versions have been upgraded to have the action feel faster and more responsive than Origins did.

Edit: Woah, lots of posts past what I was replying to. Alright I'll try to answer what I can.

PC combat is going to remain pretty much the way it currently is. It's the console versions that are being upgraded.

It doesn't talk about the conversation system in great detail. Just says "Dragon Age II uses a conversation system similar to Mass Effect's, where players select paraphrased versions of the dialogue from a wheel. An icon in the middle of the wheel even illustrates the line's basic intent (like aggressive or sarcastice), so you can focus more on the interaction rather than reading and analyzing your dialogue choices."

It made no mention of the dialogue system with party members. Thanks though, I hope the articale is copy pasted somewhere or there is scans.
So the 10 page artical had nothing about the combat changes. Meh.
All it really said was that the PC version will have the same ability to "examine the battlefield closely, make decisions from a top-down view, and direct your party like a general." They say they got to play the Xbox 360 version and they can "confirm that it is faster, more responsive, and more fluid than before. As soon as you press a button, something happens. As a warrior, Hawke threw down special strikes and used a new dash move to slash through darkspawn with ease. It isn't on the Dynasty Warriors side of the spectrum, but with obvious improvements to the targeting system and animations, playing Dragon Age II with a controller finally feels natural."
 
Someone posted this on the forums with a direct link to play.com, it's a banner, they are saying it's the first leaked Dragon Age 2 screens, not sure if true but they are directly linked to play.com's website in URL.

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Looks like those screens were legit.

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I like the change in art design, but it's unfortunate they took those screenshots in such a barren location. I feel like the lack of "stuff" in the shot makes the game look a little worse than it actually does.
 
These particular screens, (which again) could be completely misleading, don't look as good as the first game imo. Bit perturbing considering Greg Zeschuk "super hot" comment. Alpha screenshots perhaps?


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So more realistic looking game? Also with the greater detail, i guess you won't be zooming out so much in this game, compared to DAO. I kinda miss the old Ogre design, but yeah Hawke is a badass Conan the Barbarian, me likes!:word:
 
I've got Dragon Age/KoTOR/Jade Empire if I need to go back to the dialogue lines.

I'd like to see what Gaider and co. do with the ME system before I knock it completely.
 
I actually didn't like the first dragon age game, perhaps with these changes I can give the series another shot
 
Very interesting, so Flemeth is that dragon we've seen in the concept art - hopefully that means Morrigan will put in an appearance as well.

I'm still a bit iffy on the screenshots but I'm hopeful that they're early productions and the game ends up looking a bit more technically impressive. It's not a deal breaker but Origins looked a great deal better so far.

I really am excited about the trailer out next month, March is not really all that far away in the scheme of things, looking forward to getting my hands on another Dragon Age game so soon.
 
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