Dreamworks/Paramount's Ghost In The Shell - Part 2

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All of this makes me wish they had consulted with some of the people in charge of Black Mirror and/or Westworld.

I totally agree. Even more I think the material would have worked better as a mini series on HBO or Netflix.

There's too much mythology and depth to fit in a theatrical film.
 
Black Mirror, Westworld and Ex Machina have good smart creatives that made those projects what they are. Ghost in the Shell needed people like that behind the scenes but instead you get Avi Arad, Rupert Sanders and Ehren Kruger. That's not a good team.
 
There's too much mythology and depth to fit in a theatrical film.
Oshii still managed to turn the source into a finished work with his '95 film. And Innocence was also a decent sequel. Though they aren't really mass-appealing. But at least they didn't compromise.
 
Black Mirror, Westworld and Ex Machina have good smart creatives that made those projects what they are. Ghost in the Shell needed people like that behind the scenes but instead you get Avi Arad, Rupert Sanders and Ehren Kruger. That's not a good team.

Maybe part of the reason something like Crouching Tiger(beyond the visuals) made money in America was because it was Western audiences watching East Asian stories as an outsider.

Every time Hollywood has tried to blend them in either direction, Great Wall or GiTS, it ends up a mess cause they are pulling apart the story to make it fit in ways it wasn't meant to.

WestWorld and ExMachina are western versions coming at the ideas with a unified identity.
 
If this had a Asian lead I'd be sad it failed but I'm glad the white lead actor narrative failed
 
Oshii still managed to turn the source into a finished work with his '95 film. And Innocence was also a decent sequel. Though they aren't really mass-appealing. But at least they didn't compromise.

They didn't compromise intellectually and I enjoyed that, but they do kind of throw you in the middle of things in terms of the setting, kind of like if someone watched Empire Strikes Back as their first Star Wars film.
 
Oh, nothing is stopping Fate of Furiosa. Nothing.
 
Maybe part of the reason something like Crouching Tiger(beyond the visuals) made money in America was because it was Western audiences watching East Asian stories as an outsider.

Every time Hollywood has tried to blend them in either direction, Great Wall or GiTS, it ends up a mess cause they are pulling apart the story to make it fit in ways it wasn't meant to.

WestWorld and ExMachina are western versions coming at the ideas with a unified identity.

Another example of another failure is Crouching Tiger 2, which was filmed in ENGLISH, written by the dude who wrote Young Guns. I love Young Guns, but really? Him?
 
Autopsy report from Deadline. http://deadline.com/2017/04/ghost-i...-and-the-beast-weekend-box-office-1202056616/

Once again we have a situation where Paramount has a very expensive picture on their hands, and it’s not opening. “When Jim Gianopulos settles in, this type of thing isn’t going to happen!” roared one rival distribution executive today. Talk about deja vu. It was only two months ago when xXx: Return of Xander Cage with a reported production cost of $85M and the social media star power of Vin Diesel made zero impact stateside with a $20.1M opening/$45M final domestic, but all the difference overseas with a $301M take. Hopefully, Ghost will have the same luck abroad where Scarlett Johansson’s Lucy sparked to $336.69M in its international run. For a look at all international and worldwide tallies, read my colleague Nancy Tartaglione’s overseas box office report.

In November, Johansson traveled to Tokyo for a massive Ghost in the Shell event where the global trailer was first dropped ultimately earning 1.2M views. So Paramount will be hoping and praying that its overseas audiences will come running.

Frankly, it’s baffling to see Ghost in the Shell going to hell domestically: The visuals rival Blade Runner and it wasn’t too long ago that we saw Johanasson opening movies (original IP no less!) on her own with Lucy ($43.9M opening, $126.7M domestic take off a $40m cost) sans the Avengers gang. Furthermore, Paramount was very passionate about this movie, and made waves during the Mr. Robot finale back in September with enigmatic glitch commercial interstitials (pieces from the film). Online it was revealed that the glitches were in fact related to an early brilliant promo for Ghost.

Currently, LAX is blitzkrieged with Ghost one-sheets and banners. There’s an even an Osculus Rift virtual experience that was produced for the film, putting users into the shoes of Johansson’s Major character whereby she swan dives from the rooftop and battles geisha robots.

But somewhere along the way, Ghost fell apart whether it was in the marketing or the film itself. Some might point to the white-washing controversy that bubbled on the internet in casting Johansson in a Japanese anime feature adaptation. But really, that type of thing doesn’t weigh heavily on average moviegoers’ minds (but it did on critic’s — the film started out with 71% on Rotten Tomatoes before critics continued to hammer away on the controversy of the casting). Despite the uber-cool, visual trailers that were cut for Ghost, rivals believe it was all eye-candy with zero substance. “You don’t know what the storyline was. Is Scarlett’s character good, or is she bad?” assessed one marketing maven who added the look of Ghost was “too Wachowski-esque.”

RelishMix sharply observed that the film was challenged by an overall non-social and inactive cast. Even though Johansson doesn’t shy away from PR when it comes to her movies, there’s a wasted opportunity here in regards to her absence from social. This is an actress who is a millennial pin-up girl, beloved by males and she’s not meeting that audience head-on with a Dwayne Johnson promo sensibility. The proof of her fanbase resides in the audience polls: On CinemaScore, 39% came out to Ghost because of Johansson with 61% males attending, 76% over 25. Meanwhile, Screen Engine/ComScore’s Posttrak showed 62% males buying tickets with the pic’s largest demo being guys over 25 at 42%.

Now a studio will always make-up for a star who is personally non-social by doing other social media stunts with them, but this movie (and Johansson’s career here) could have benefited from her own personal tubthumping, and igniting even more fans to attend. Six years ago, in an Interview with Arianna Huffington, Johansson dissed social media: “I can’t think of anything I’d rather do less than have to continuously share details of my everyday life. I’m always surprised that certain actors have Twitter accounts. I guess they use it in a way that works for them. But I’d rather that people had less access to my personal life.” However, social media is whatever you make it, and it’s certainly the best currency for a star and a wannabe tentpole nowadays (duh).

Another reveal here is that despite the box office-to-production cost fail here with Ghost, if a Johansson film is made for the right price ala a Resident Evil, a fanbase will show up and shell out a certain amount of cash.

Lastly, in regards to Ghost, whenever a studio hides a movie from the press, you know something is up. Here in L.A., Paramount scheduled an all-media screening last Wednesday when the bulk of the industry’s vital press corps were covering CinemaCon. Well, there’s no such thing as a coincidence, and Paramount didn’t offer up any earlier screenings for those journalists wanting to see the film ahead of the exhibitor confab. The studio also didn’t screen the movie at CinemaCon because they were holding their exhibitor screenings ahead of time. All of this was odd given the Melrose Lot’s mojo for selling Ghost back in the fall. But then it was clear: Ghost logged a 41% Rotten Tomatoes score with high brow critics declaring “It gets bogged down in aesthetics that are stimulating only for the sake of stimulation, seemingly without a flicker of thought behind them. Shell indeed, but there’s no ghost at home” (Tribune News’ Katie Walsh).
 
:hehe: Forgot the reviewers were going to be cracking puns.
 
I didn't realize ScarJo wasn't on Twitter. it's sad that that actually makes her one of the weird ones.
 
Maybe the studios will question their white washing casting then? I can't believe it made under the 25M estimate which I thought sounded low to begin with.
 
So someone who doesn't partake in social media is strange? I actually have more respect for Johansson not feeling obligated to get one.
 
In this day and age, that's how it's looked at. Or like you're trying to be contrarian for the sake of it. I don't agree, but hey There are guys in the industry right now who I figured despised social media but I see them on Twitter constantly.
 
Deadline's report is, as usual, terrible. GITS failing had nothing to do with Scarjo not being on twitter.

The trailers were lousy. They only highlighted how "sexy" Scarjo is in a nude suit and hinted at some run of the mill revenge story.
 
I was a hour or so into it (the scene where they try to take out the section 9 chief and he shoots them and drops the spent shells) and the picture cut off for like 10/12 min and they said they could not roll back the film so I left the manager told me while she cannot turn it back she can give vouchers and when the movie ends they could move it back to where it cut off but I did not have that kind of time so I took the voucher. I liked what I did so far, and will look forward to re watching it in the near future (for free).
 
I requested to attend the press screening for the movie and I was told it was over-capacity.
 
any reason why they did not use the '95 theme over the opening credits like they did in the video that was posted on the net months ago?
 
Deadline's report is, as usual, terrible. GITS failing had nothing to do with Scarjo not being on twitter.

The trailers were lousy. They only highlighted how "sexy" Scarjo is in a nude suit and hinted at some run of the mill revenge story.

It just looked average from the beginning. From the perspective of someone who's never seen the original I got no real sense about what the film was about. It looked cool, but then again every film can be made to look cool these days.
 
Deadline's report is, as usual, terrible. GITS failing had nothing to do with Scarjo not being on twitter.

The trailers were lousy. They only highlighted how "sexy" Scarjo is in a nude suit and hinted at some run of the mill revenge story.

I miss Nikki Finke's writing. I wish she never sold the blog.
 
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