Sci-Fi Dune

[Spider-Fan]

Blade Runner 2049 was a masterpiece. Arrival was amazing as well. Denis I think makes some of the best looking films being made now

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Black Narcissus]

Eh, I'd place Villeneuve ahead of Nolan for a few years now. I haven't seen Tenet yet, but have not truly enjoyed Nolan's film from TDKR till Dunkirk. I also feel like Villeneuve is much better at portraying emotion through his characters. I also don't want to derail the thread further, but Nolan ain't fit to wash Quentin's jockstrap at this time.

I watched Incendies for the first time a few weeks ago and that hit me like a pile of bricks.

 

[Schlosser85]

It really does, the game trailer sets the table. There's this planet with spice, spice is needed for damn near everything, space travel, superpowers, political power etc, the planet has no water meaning it's a F'ed up place, because of the value of spice you have three houses battling over it. Boom! ready, set, and go.

The movie trailer is all over the place, Tim's character is kissing Zendaya, now he's hugging Jason Mamoa, fat dude in a bathtub, Batista walking all mean, oh and there's a pain box. Like seriously, lay some ground work for people not in the know.

It's really not that vague. Young son of a noble family moving to a new planet has future visions including his love interest, they're being attacked by another faction, etc. You can get at least a basic gist.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Eh, I'd place Villeneuve ahead of Nolan for a few years now. I haven't seen Tenet yet, but have not truly enjoyed Nolan's film from TDKR till Dunkirk. I also feel like Villeneuve is much better at portraying emotion through his characters. I also don't want to derail the thread further, but Nolan ain;t fit to wash Quentin's jockstrap at this time.

I watched Incendies for the first time a few weeks ago and that hit me like a pile of bricks.

I wouldn't even place Nolan in top 10 of modern directors.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I wouldn't even place Nolan in top 10 of modern directors.

Eh, ranking can be kinda lame, but he'd make my top 10 currently. But in exact number 10.

 

[Schlosser85]

Thus far I'd put Nolan ahead of Villeneuve.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Dune, Floyd, Denis. I feel like I had intimate relations with that trailer. Also I could tell were pretty much every shot was from the source material... that's a good sign imo.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thus far I'd put Nolan ahead of Villeneuve.

Nolan has made more movies I love. But I love the movies I love from Denis more. 2049, Prisoners and Sicaro are some of my all time favorites, with 2049 being a top 10er for me. Where as Nolan takes up a lot of room in the top 15-50. Does that make sense?

 

[DKDetective]

Eh, I'd place Villeneuve ahead of Nolan for a few years now. I haven't seen Tenet yet, but have not truly enjoyed Nolan's film from TDKR till Dunkirk. I also feel like Villeneuve is much better at portraying emotion through his characters. I also don't want to derail the thread further, but Nolan ain't fit to wash Quentin's jockstrap at this time.

I watched Incendies for the first time a few weeks ago and that hit me like a pile of bricks.

Yeah, after Inception, with the sole exception of Dunkirk, Nolan's filmography has been misses for me. Based on what people are saying about Tenet, it sounds like it will be the same for me. I really love his work from Memento through Inception, but I hate to say that he has started getting a bit full of himself with his weird anti-technology things, and insistence of his trailers only being available in front of true film or laser IMAX films, and demanding a theatre only release for Tenet despite COVID is getting a bit elitist. Film is supposed to be a popular art form open to the masses. Not everyone has access to theatres that meet his specifications. They should not denied experiences because of location, money, or now health circumstances. Dude needs to check his privilege.

 

[Calvin Ellis]

This movie looks good. My favorite take on the movie was the one done by the SyFy channel but I hope that this is just as good.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This movie looks good. My favorite take on the movie was the one done by the SyFy channel but I hope that this is just as good.

For all it's cheap budget issues and such, I do love the pair of Dune mini-series. Also eternally made James McAvoy Leto II in my head (even if it should be III). Really got me into the mythos. That all said, this trailer is better then those minis already imo.

 

[Schlosser85]

Ian McNeice was a better Baron than the cartoonishly over-the-top one in Lynch's movie, but the whole thing just felt cheap and low budget and very TV-ish (pre stuff like Game of Thrones).

Plenty of room for improvement.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If this is as amazing as I hope, Denis will pass Nolan for me.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Nolan has made more movies I love. But I love the movies I love from Denis more. 2049, Prisoners and Sicaro are some of my all time favorites, with 2049 being a top 10er for me. Where as Nolan takes up a lot of room in the top 15-50. Does that make sense?

That giant spider kept me up more than that spinning top ever did.

If this is as amazing as I hope, Denis will pass Nolan for me.

He already has...

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Mainline this movie into my veins right now. Time for a reread...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That giant spider kept me up more than that spinning top ever did.

To be fair to the spinning top, I think it had different intentions then the Kafka spider.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Both Dune 2000 and Children of Dune remain as the definitive versions of Dune for me, especially Children of Dune which I just love to pieces and the score in that series alone will always remain as some of my favorite bits of music ever and I am going to try and re-watch both before this comes out. There has always been room for improvement though which is why I'm so excited for this modern adaptation.

As for Denis vs. Nolan I honestly think there both great directors who have made plenty of films that I either loved or thought were great at worst. I just wish Denis had way more success with his films commercially, because he deserves the recognition.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Both Dune 2000 and Children of Dune remain as the definitive versions of Dune for me, especially Children of Dune which I just love to pieces and the score in that series alone will always remain as some of my favorite bits of music ever and I am going to try and re-watch both before this comes out. There has always been room for improvement though which is why I'm so excited for this modern adaptation.

As for Denis vs. Nolan I honestly think there both great directors who have made plenty of films that I either loved or thought were great at worst. I just wish Denis had way more success with his films commercially, because he deserves the recognition.

My favorite thing about the adaptations, other then getting me into Dune, was the actual use of Princess Irulan.

 

[famicommander]

I don't like Nolan movies much at all. His action sequences are always very hard to follow due to shaky camera work and too many cuts, and a sound editor he has worked with on most of his films recently speculated that Nolan intentionally muffles the dialog in his movies because he feels like if people have to work harder to understand the plot, they'll be more engaged. To me that just comes off as pretentious, which is my general impression of Nolan's films to begin with. I shouldn't have to turn on subtitles to understand what the hell the characters are saying when I'm watching a film in my native language. He has his strengths, of course, but I'd put Villeneuve far ahead of him pretty much across the board.

I haven't watched any of Villeneuve's French-language films but I enjoy all five of his English release more than I enjoy any Nolan film. Arrival in particular I think is one of the better science fiction films ever released.

 

[Marvolo]

Considering Baron Harkonnen is in cahoots with the Emperor, and that the Emperor is the one assigning House Atreides to Arrakis in the first place, isn't it a little weird that the Emperor isn't in this? He seems pretty relevant to the plot to not be present at all.

I can see him being a cameo in the final moments of this film. Similar to Maul in the Solo film. And Im sure the Emperor will be discussed in the film by other characters.

 

[famicommander]

I just wish Denis had way more success with his films commercially, because he deserves the recognition.

Three of his four big budget Hollywood films were a success. If you accept that a movie generally has to make back ~2.5X its budget to be a success:
Prisoners - $122.1 million on a $46 million budget = 2.65X budget
Sicario - $84.9 million on a $30 million budget = 2.83X budget
Arrival - $203.4 million on a $47 million budget = 4.33X budget
Blade Runner 2049 - $260.5 million on a $185 million budget = 1.41X budget

Two moderate hits, one big hit, one big flop is what the scoreboard says.

He deserves a megahit, no question, but he's not some flop machine either. I don't think anybody could've made money with a Blade Runner film. Ridley Scott certainly didn't.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

His action sequences are always very hard to follow due to shaky camera work and too many cuts

2008 called. They want their outdated opinion back.

 

[Schlosser85]

I don't like Nolan movies much at all. His action sequences are always very hard to follow due to shaky camera work and too many cuts, and a sound editor he has worked with on most of his films recently speculated that Nolan intentionally muffles the dialog in his movies because he feels like if people have to work harder to understand the plot, they'll be more engaged. To me that just comes off as pretentious, which is my general impression of Nolan's films to begin with. I shouldn't have to turn on subtitles to understand what the hell the characters are saying when I'm watching a film in my native language. He has his strengths, of course, but I'd put Villeneuve far ahead of him pretty much across the board.

I haven't watched any of Villeneuve's French-language films but I enjoy all five of his English release more than I enjoy any Nolan film. Arrival in particular I think is one of the better science fiction films ever released.

The only Nolan action sequences that are hard to follow are some of his clumsily-choreographed hand-to-hand fights in the Batman movies, and the only Nolan character who's hard to understand is Bane.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Three of his four big budget Hollywood films were a success. If you accept that a movie generally has to make back ~2.5X its budget to be a success:
Prisoners - $122.1 million on a $46 million budget = 2.65X budget
Sicario - $84.9 million on a $30 million budget = 2.83X budget
Arrival - $203.4 million on a $47 million budget = 4.33X budget
Blade Runner 2049 - $260.5 million on a $185 million budget = 1.41X budget

Two moderate hits, one big hit, one big flop is what the scoreboard says.

He deserves a megahit, no question, but he's not some flop machine either. I don't think anybody could've made money with a Blade Runner film. Ridley Scott certainly didn't.

At least he made a lot better Blade Runner movie then Ridley Scott.