Episode 4:"Bloodlines" review thread.

[Golgo-13]

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[Golgo-13]

Wow! Nice angle that Blade actually turned some humans into Vamps back in the day.

How the hell did Krista have time to slip out and visit Shen if Chase just told her to pack her bags?

 

[Knives122]

LOL, I just saw the Guy who played the Red Ranger in SPD. It's good that he's getting work b/c not many of them do after that show.

 

[Golgo-13]

This episode should satisfy all those that thought Krista was getting too much screentime..

O.K i hate to nitpick but the writing does not match in the movies continuity:

1) The way Bookem Woodbines (Bad Blood leader) character saids Blade met Whistler does not match the way it's described in the movie. In the series he said Whislter dragged Blade out of a tattoo parlor. In the movies and on the Blade 2 deleted scene, Whistler met Blade on the streets, feeding on the homeless.

2)Blade ages like a human. Since he bit, and turned the Badbloods when they were young (presumably teenagers because that's how old Blade was when he met Whistler), shouldn't they still be teenagers since they stop aging, or age slower once they become vamps?

3) The lack of the boobie trap on Blade's sword...where was it?

4) Bookeem Woobines (Bad Blood leader) character escaped and ran out into direct sunlight...?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

#1: Inconsistencies always crop up when they make TV series out of movies. It's just something you've gotta learn to deal with. I guess we could discard the deleted scene (which is redundant, I know, but I mean count it as not existing, since it was, in fact, cut and not part of the material everyone would be familiar with). Do that and assume that Whistler might've been generalizing in the movies, since Woodbine's character himself said that after Blade turned the Bad Bloods, they were basically outcasts among vampires and had to scrounge around in the streets to survive. So Whistler might've been referring to Blade's running with the Bad Bloods as "living on the streets, feeding on the homeless."

For #2 I just assumed Woodbine and his band of merry men were already the ages they look when they met Blade. He said they were "just kids" when they met Blade, but some older people call anyone who's younger and less wise than they are "kids." Maybe he's come so far after being turned that he looks back on himself, adult though he may have been, as little more than a child in the ways of the real world Blade opened his eyes to.

#3 annoyed the hell out of me. People were handling the sword all over and I kept waiting for it to destroy their hands, but it never did. At least in Blade 2 we saw Reinhardt disable the trap. This time it looks like Blade is just cutting corners while mass-producing the swords (if the extras in the locker when Shen was loading up on weapons are any indication).

#4 confused me. I suppose it's possible that Blade's bite creates more Daywalkers instead of just normal vamps, but the Bad Bloods covered themselves completely and had all the windows on their truck tinted earlier in the episode. Why go to all the trouble if sunlight isn't a problem? I guess we're supposed to assume either that Woodbine's character is a Daywalker and all of the covering from earlier in the episode was just coincidental or that he somehow managed to get out of the warehouse and escape through some route that didn't expose him to sunlight.

 

[ReptileOrion]

Great episode.....it appears the streak of damn good episodes continue. The interaction between Blade and the Bad Bloods were great. It would be nice to see Bokeem Woodbine's character (Bad Blood Leader) return in a future episode. The scene between the Bad Blood Leader and Marcus was my favorite scene from the episode.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The episode was pretty good except for a few issues. I seem to be accepting Jones as Blade a lot more now. Maybe because I now know he does have a little street thug in him after all. My favorite part of the episode was Shen's, "If you say 'thank you,' I'm quitting."

 

[Lantern Venom]

#4 confused me. I suppose it's possible that Blade's bite creates more Daywalkers instead of just normal vamps, but the Bad Bloods covered themselves completely and had all the windows on their truck tinted earlier in the episode. Why go to all the trouble if sunlight isn't a problem? I guess we're supposed to assume either that Woodbine's character is a Daywalker and all of the covering from earlier in the episode was just coincidental or that he somehow managed to get out of the warehouse and escape through some route that didn't expose him to sunlight.

I was wondering the same thing. I hope we get a viable explanation for that at a later date.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Well, it looked like the Bad Blood were about to bring Blade to Van Sciver, so they probably had their day-time gear ready near their van. Since the leader went that way, I'd assume he grabbed that gear and ran like the f**king wind.

Anyway, awesome episode--loved this new idea of Blade's past, and I hope we see the leader guy again in a later episode.

 

[KenK]

Yeah, I'm assuming the bad bloods were the same age when they took Blade in, hence the nickname they gave him, "Little Man", as to imply that they acknowledged him being younger than them. Despite the inconsistencies, I liked their inclusion in Blade's origin.

Otherwise, I was shocked when the doctor blew his brains out in his office! How you gonna off yourself in front of your patients?!?! That's bad for business!

Krista's trip should be interesting. Can't wait to see whether or not she gets to her serum in time. I'm still not sure if I've warmed to the idea that it can be used on any vampire other than Blade. It seems like something that would be specifically tailored to his genetic makeup.

I was wondering when we were gonna see Fredro Starr! Them boys from Onyx stay tighter than a virgin on prom night!

 

[Golgo-13]

I like that Marcus mentioned that the houses started eradicating all the vamps that had been turned by Blade, that's why the Badbloods went into hiding.

And i still don't fully understand the Preachers plan. I remember in last weeks episode that he mentioned something about "Doing things another way". What did he hope to accomplish by turning Blade over to the Badbloods?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Otherwise, I was shocked when the doctor blew his brains out in his office! How you gonna off yourself in front of your patients?!?! That's bad for business!

Well, yeah, but what does he care?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I loved it. It was great getting some background on Blade for once. The show just gets better & better.
BTW-obviously Blade's bite does NOT create Daywalkers; look at the facts. If it did, the times he'd been captured in the movies they'd have used his saliva rather than his blood. Marcus would;ve called the bad Bloods "Daywalkers" themselves, instead of saying they were tainted by him. Blade is half-vampire due to special circumstances. But if he bites someone, he's passing on the vampirism virus, not the human traits within himself that balance it out. Everything Woodbine said made it clear that the Bad Bloods do NOT possess Blade's immunities.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What the hell would Blade's saliva have done to people who are already vampires? Marcus is free to call the Bad Bloods whatever he wants, and it's quite possible he considers the ability to survive in sunlight a "taint." Remember, the vampires in the Blade movies were obsessed with bloodlines and how "pure" a vampire's blood was; getting turned by Blade means they're not only not pureblooded vamps, they're humans who were turned by an abomination. As for the black masks and stuff they wore out in the day, it's possible that they just wanted to hide their identities, just in case they didn't capture Blade and they needed to escape. It'd take him a lot longer to find them if he didn't know who they were.

So I wouldn't say it's obvious that the Bad Bloods weren't Daywalkers. I assumed they weren't because making them Daywalkers would make Blade lose part of what makes him unique, but if a future episode showed Woodbine walking around in the sunlight, I wouldn't be able to point out anything in this episode that directly contradicts it. Suggestions, yes, but nothing that can't have an equally plausible alternative explanation.

 

[JokerNick]

Hey... quick question, so Blade turned those guys into vampires, okay, makes sense, now in Blade 1, he bit that black chick at the end to regain his strength, but they never mentioned her having to cure herself afterwards???

also, has the cure been brought up at all, of her character, I heard a rumor that she was going to reprise her role in the series?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Technically he didn't bite her; he just drank from her pre-existing wounds.
I haven't heard anything about Karen returning & given the setup of the series, I find it unlikely.

 

[Chris Wallace]

What the hell would Blade's saliva have done to people who are already vampires? Marcus is free to call the Bad Bloods whatever he wants, and it's quite possible he considers the ability to survive in sunlight a "taint." Remember, the vampires in the Blade movies were obsessed with bloodlines and how "pure" a vampire's blood was; getting turned by Blade means they're not only not pureblooded vamps, they're humans who were turned by an abomination. As for the black masks and stuff they wore out in the day, it's possible that they just wanted to hide their identities, just in case they didn't capture Blade and they needed to escape. It'd take him a lot longer to find them if he didn't know who they were.

So I wouldn't say it's obvious that the Bad Bloods weren't Daywalkers. I assumed they weren't because making them Daywalkers would make Blade lose part of what makes him unique, but if a future episode showed Woodbine walking around in the sunlight, I wouldn't be able to point out anything in this episode that directly contradicts it. Suggestions, yes, but nothing that can't have an equally plausible alternative explanation.

Why would they need to conceal their identities? And wouldn't ski masks have been just as effective?
It seemes clear to me they didn't have Blade's immunities. He is unique, which is why they refer to HIM as the Daywalker & not anyone else.

 

[JokerNick]

Technically he didn't bite her; he just drank from her pre-existing wounds.
I haven't heard anything about Karen returning & given the setup of the series, I find it unlikely.

hmmm, it's been a while since I've scene Blade

Goyer said something to the fact that her, and Hannibal were to appear in the series at some point

 

[Swordmaster]

I will only say this for now. Blade kicked ass in this episode

 

[Golgo-13]

Hey... quick question, so Blade turned those guys into vampires, okay, makes sense, now in Blade 1, he bit that black chick at the end to regain his strength, but they never mentioned her having to cure herself afterwards???

also, has the cure been brought up at all, of her character, I heard a rumor that she was going to reprise her role in the series?

Well it's assumed she did cure herself afterwards, as she mentioned to Deacon Frost that a person who was once human 'can' be cured, which brings up the question why couldn't blade cure Krista? He obviously knows there's a cure cause Dr.Karen Jensen told him about it, and he cured Whistler with it in Blade 2. Whistler had been a vamp for two years mind you.

Is he holding this info back from her (Krista) because he wants her on the inside? Or is this another plot hole?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Well it's assumed she did cure herself afterwards, as she mentioned to Deacon Frost that a person who was once human 'can' be cured, which brings up the question why couldn't blade cure Krista? He obviously knows there's a cure cause Dr.Karen Jensen told him about it, and he cured Whistler with it in Blade 2. Whistler had been a vamp for two years mind you.

Is he holding this info back from her (Krista) because he wants her on the inside? Or is this another plot hole?

I don't see it that way; he needs Krista as a spy. She can't spy on the House of Chthon if she's human.
And he may not even have the resources to manufacture it on hand, just like he has to use the inferior serum now.

 

[Chris Wallace]

hmmm, it's been a while since I've scene Blade

Goyer said something to the fact that her, and Hannibal were to appear in the series at some point

But not Abby?

 

[Chris Wallace]

And even if Karen does show up, there's no guarantee that N'Bushe would be the one to play her. I'd love it if she did, though.

 

[JokerNick]

And even if Karen does show up, there's no guarantee that N'Bushe would be the one to play her. I'd love it if she did, though.

she might as well, she doesn't have that much going on, she'd do it for a 6 pack of diet coke most likely

 

[KenK]

she might as well, she doesn't have that much going on, she'd do it for a 6 pack of diet coke most likely

Damn, that's freakin' cold, man.