Escape from New York (Remake)

[dark_b]

Escape from NY is a film that I think would be a great remake. Just because other remakes have been screwed up doesn't mean all remakes will be screwed up. Look at The Thing. That was a remake of a classic disguised as a sequel. Before you assume they're gonna screw it up let's see who they hire as the director and see how the cast fills up. I hate it when they screw up remakes like The Hitcher.

i thought that he meant that they should stop making remakes because it is not original.
you are talking about the qualitiy of the reamkes right?

 

[Advanced Dark]

Why does everything have to be a damn FRANCHISE? It was a classic movie made 25 years ago, with one failed, mostly forgotten sequel to its name. I don't call that a franchise, especially one that so desperately needs to be resurrected.

Snake is not Batman, Spider-Man or Bond. Those are characters that existed before and outside of their movies; the actors who portray them are merely custodians of the character.

Snake is Kurt. Kurt is Snake.

You know what it's more comparable to? Evil Dead. Or hell, even Jay & Silent Bob.

Ash is Bruce. Bruce is Ash.

Should someone other than Jason Mewes and Kevin Smith play Jay and Silent Bob if, for some ungodly reason, some tool decides to remake Clerks in 2067?

They are characters created by a director/actor duo that exist only in the context of that union.

Maybe some day, they'll remake ROCKY. And maybe on that day, everyone will rally behind the actor of the week to play Balboa, because he just had a hit 3 days ago (forgetting he bombed out as both the Phantom and Dracula a mere few years earlier).

Jesus Christ on a Cross, dying for our sins.

Who said "everything" has to be a franchise. In fact somewhere up there I said the exact opposite.

I didn't seen any of you people above whining and complaining about remakes above that were NOT drooling and slapping your monkey to Casino Royale. LOL Why remake a classic huh? WHy why why? LOL Also Phantom and Dracula did not bomb because of the actor. They bombed because interest was not there.

 

[nocomics]

/sigh another remake How many remakes of classics is this like 100trillion...Get some originality,theres tons of novels/comics/short stories that can be made into movies...
Agree,that Kurt brought alot to this role,would gerard be any better? Don't know,possibly. Would I like to see a remake? Not sure,but Im a sucker for action movies so I'd probably see it..
I'd rather Gerard go for 'GOD of WAR' movie than this.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Well we all have to assume this movie IS being made so why all the moaning. You can moan for the rest of your life but it is what it is.

I guarantee every single fan of the original film will be in the theaters seats the first weekend this film comes out. All of you complaining about this will buy a ticket and be there. THAT is why they're remaking it. Is that reason enough? Hell no. They have to make it good. It's going to depend on the director. Can they get a big name? Who knows maybe Zack Snyder will direct it. They're going to keep remaking classics if they feel it's worth it. If there's potential for a studio to make money off a franchise why would they ignore that? It's not like the studio can only make one film. They can still make a movie with an original script AND a remake. Some of you act like there's not enough room for both.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Do we really need a remake of "Escape From New York"? I think not. Next they're gonna want to remake "Big Trouble In Little China" and "Starman" and whatever other John Carpenter films were well liked or have been liked.

The difference is there's no need or interest out there in a remake of those films. Escape from NY has a bankable character that clearly had more stories to tell. Most films out there don't need remakes...EFNY could benefit greatly from one. I also thought War of the Worlds and King Kong deserved remakes but personally thought they were fluff and nothing more. Casino Royale deserved a remake and it worked out, Batman's origin story needed to be retold IMO...and it worked out. The Shining did NOT need a remake. That was just bad. There are still plenty of other remakes I'm looking forward to like clash of the Titans. The hardest thing is remaking a film where a particular character was so good in the role it's hard imagining someone else....get over it.

 

[Addendum]

Who said "everything" has to be a franchise. In fact somewhere up there I said the exact opposite.

I didn't seen any of you people above whining and complaining about remakes above that were NOT drooling and slapping your monkey to Casino Royale. LOL Why remake a classic huh? WHy why why?

The recent James Bond movie wasn't a remake of the film from the 60s. It was a serious movie adapation of the source material, which was the first James Bond book, done by the movie company which is responsible for every James Bond movie, except for the original Casino Royale which sucked, and Never Say Never Again which also sucked and was a remake of Thunderball.

 

[Addendum]

Well we all have to assume this movie IS being made so why all the moaning. You can moan for the rest of your life but it is what it is.

I guarantee every single fan of the original film will be in the theaters seats the first weekend this film comes out. All of you complaining about this will buy a ticket and be there.

Bull****. You're talking to a fan of the original who won't buy a ticket for this

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ LOL you're funny addendum. Of course you will...you just won't tell me about it. It's alright though. It's funny you won't buy a ticket and the only thing you know is Butler is involved. You don't know who the director is, how the story is gonna pan out, how long the film is, who the rest of the cast will be, etc...I could understand if it was gonna be directed by McG or Uwe and DJ Squalls was playing Snake Plisskin but now you're just being ridiculous.

 

[Addendum]

^ LOL you're funny addendum. Of course you will...you just won't tell me about it. It's alright though. It's funny you won't buy a ticket and the only thing you know is Butler is involved. You don't know who the director is, how the story is gonna pan out, how long the film is, who the rest of the cast will be, etc...I could understand if it was gonna be directed by McG or Uwe and DJ Squalls was playing Snake Plisskin but now you're just being ridiculous.

Again, bull****.

I don't give a damn who is directing it, who is playing Snake, and all that other stuff. When I saw the word Remake, my mind was already made up.

It's funny that one can't comprehend that someone doesn't throw money at every movie that comes out.

Last year was an off-year for me. I saw a whopping 4 movies- Silent Hill, Borat, World Trade Center, and Jackass 2.

Before that, the most I saw was 2 movies a year

 

[Advanced Dark]

The recent James Bond movie wasn't a remake of the film from the 60s. It was a serious movie adapation of the source material, which was the first James Bond book, done by the movie company which is responsible for every James Bond movie, except for the original Casino Royale which sucked, and Never Say Never Again which also sucked and was a remake of Thunderball.

And exactly how are they going to do the remake of Escape from NY? Have you seen the script yet? The fact is you dont' know anything about this remake except Butler is up for Plissken and he's going to be Escaping from NY. You dont' know why or how? Do you really think he's going to be sent in to give a casette tape of The Presidents speech and then trick us all again by switching tapes. LOL It's gonna be a updating telling based on the same premise. As far as Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again sucking...that's your opinion.

 

[Rac]

So there's not going to be the rumored third Escape from with Kurt and Carpenter? I'd rather have a medicore sequel than bad remake.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ When was there an annoucement of a "bad" remake? I missed that one. We already had a less than mediocre sequel. I think they'd like to make another sequel but right now it makes no sense. They have a great potential franchise but it's best to retell the original storyline and update it. Then spin sequels off of that film. This is nothing but good news. Alot of you are just assuming the worst and complaining. Instead I still don't get why we're all not talking about casting, premise, what scenes from the original you want to see and how they can make them better, how Butler can portray Plissken with respect. We all know Butler isn't gonna even attempt to copy Kurt Russell's character. Just like the last James Bond film where Daniel Craig in many interviews said he was gonna make James Bond his own. He wasn't going to copy the other actors. Look what happened. He surprised alot of people. I thought the public wasn't going to accept him. I didn't see it...but I still went and watched it. With James Bond it wasn't really about remaking the story but how Craig would remake Bond himself. That's the problem Butler is gonna have with Snake. Can he remake the character and turn it into his own in a good way? I dunno but I'm not gonna be a big baby and say I'm not going to see it before I know anything about it.

 

[Addendum]

And exactly how are they going to do the remake of Escape from NY? Have you seen the script yet? The fact is you dont' know anything about this remake except Butler is up for Plissken and he's going to be Escaping from NY. You dont' know why or how? Do you really think he's going to be sent in to give a casette tape of The Presidents speech and then trick us all again by switching tapes.

I = the nominative singular pronoun, used by a speaker in referring to himself or herself

don't = contraction of do not

give a damn = to care; be concerned; consider as important

 

[DorkyFresh]

So there's not going to be the rumored third Escape from with Kurt and Carpenter? I'd rather have a medicore sequel than bad remake.

i still have mixed feelings about a remake but if they're gonna make another Snake Plisken movie i'd much rather have a reboot/remake than a sequel for 3 reasons...

1 - the FIRST sequel (Escape from LA) was BARELY mediocre.
2 - the second sequel would've been entitled "Escape from Earth"...nuff said.
3 - i don't think Kurt Russel can run, jump, and fight like he used to.

if they can flesh out the movie and make it a believable futuristic world ala Minority Report and Children of Men then i'd love to see it remade.

 

[Darthphere]

I just dont think Butler should get stuck in the action hero roles. As long as he doesn't I'm fine with that.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The difference is there's no need or interest out there in a remake of those films. Escape from NY has a bankable character that clearly had more stories to tell. Most films out there don't need remakes...EFNY could benefit greatly from one. I also thought War of the Worlds and King Kong deserved remakes but personally thought they were fluff and nothing more. Casino Royale deserved a remake and it worked out, Batman's origin story needed to be retold IMO...and it worked out. The Shining did NOT need a remake. That was just bad. There are still plenty of other remakes I'm looking forward to like clash of the Titans. The hardest thing is remaking a film where a particular character was so good in the role it's hard imagining someone else....get over it.

King Kong = remake

Casino Royale and The Shining = NOT REMAKES (for that matter, I am not sure War of the Worlds is either).

Stop using these movies in your examples. You are naming a bunch of "remakes" that are not remakes. The other Shinning movie was another movie based on the book by Stephen King (script also written by Stephen King), not based on Kubrick's adaptation of King's novel. Same goes for Casino Royale. It was a movie based on Flemming's novel. Just because the story had been made into a movie once and they do it again doesn't mean it is a remake. Remakes are when the studio adapts a previous screenplay (King Kong and Down to Earth (remake of Heaven Can Wait) are examples). However, Casino Royale, The Shinning, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, etc are not remakes.

That said, I have always wanted to see Escape From New York, but never got around to it. I don't like the amount of remakes made, but I am not against the practice of making them. I just think Hollywood needs to limit this practice a bit.

I will wait and see on this project before passing judgement.

 

[Advanced Dark]

When I use the term remake I'm referring to remaking a new script from an old premise. It doesn't matter if they make it completely different it's still a reimaginging of the same premise and sometimes it can be a much better way to tell the story, or a better way to present the character. Howabout..."restart" then.

It's way to early to tell if this movie is going to be bad or good. However...we all know the storyline and the character and pretty much everything is positive about that. It's not like Eddie Murphy is going to be cast as Snake. We're in a hurry up and wait mode now.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Who said "everything" has to be a franchise. In fact somewhere up there I said the exact opposite.

I didn't seen any of you people above whining and complaining about remakes above that were NOT drooling and slapping your monkey to Casino Royale. LOL Why remake a classic huh? WHy why why? LOL Also Phantom and Dracula did not bomb because of the actor. They bombed because interest was not there.

Well Casino Royale was never considered a classic on any level and i keep hearing you say the snake character is an icon,i thought he was more a cult fav,he isn't Indy level popular to my knowledge

 

[Advanced Dark]

Well Casino Royale was never considered a classic on any level and i keep hearing you say the snake character is an icon,i thought he was more a cult fav,he isn't Indy level popular to my knowledge

Snake Plisskin is the ultimate Anti-Hero similar to Riddick which I'm sure was somewhat inspired by Plisskin. Yeah he's a cult favorite and no he's not as popular as Indy...but it's hard to imagine any movie buff or sci-fi fan who didn't like the character. Kurt Russell was awesome in that role but he's not the only thing that made the movie great. The whole premise was just cool. Why they made escape from LA which to me was more of a remake disguised as a sequel...is beyond me. They would have been better off just continuing the adventures of Snake perhaps being on the run from the law...or had him go back into NY for one reason or another. They didn't do that and now it's just too late to have Kurt Russell portray Plisskin in his prime. The character is immortal like Spider-Man, Batman, etc...No reason why the actor can't be replaced as long as he (as I've said a few times) makes the character his own. I think Gerard could do it as could a few other actors as there are very few cases of a character that just can't be replaced. Bond, Batman, Superman, Jack Ryan, and sooner or later Spider-Man and the X-Men will all be replaced by new actors. Fans will scream at first but there's no stopping it. We can only cross our fingers they do a great job.

 

[Assassin32]

I hope this doesn't happen.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Why would you a hope a movie isn't made? LOL

It's not like you have to watch it. If you don't want to watch it...don't. It doesn't effect you nor does it effect the first film. The first film will still exist.

 

[black_dust]

Who ever plays snake i hope they get his personality right

"The president has been kidnapped"

"President of what.....?"

I love that i dont really give a **** attitude

 

[Advanced Dark]

Yeah that attitude is essential. And I want more hand to hand combat and gunplay mixed in. Maybe instead of going into the boxing ring with a huge bald guy they could throw him in a cage with a Ultimate Fighting Champion turned convicted felon. They could really have fun with it by taking the best scenes from the film and upgrading them. I want to see more of the sewer dwellers this time around too and I want whatever they do to be more graphic. The World Trade center is gone so he won't be landing there. Perhaps if the studio can figure out the design of what's going there the could use that. The submarine thing from the "LA" sequel was a good idea but man did they make that corny. Could have been done much better...or just dropped him in w/a chute. I think they exit should still be on a bridge but the George Washington Bridge...or perhaps through the Holland Tunnel or something. Who the hell is gonna play Cabby if they use him or someone similar to him. Too bad Seizmore is such a freak. LOL

I can tell you right now this had better be an R rated film. PG-13 and we'll have Riddick all over again. I don't want that.

I'm gonna LMFAO when Colin Farrel signs on for a Mad Max restart. LOL Just listening to all the whining is going to be entertaining.

 

[mastermindjcg]

Now, granted, John Carpenter may have directed a cinematic steamin' turd or deux in recent years; however, as a film enthusiast dork, I have to give the man credit for the films which he did strike gold with including The Fog, Starman, and of course, The Thing, which was a remake and an awesome one at that. So, when Carpenter remakes a film, it usually works; however, when someone tries to remake a Carpenter picture, it's crap, plain and simple and do not try to justify the "Fog" remake to me. I don't care how hot Selma Blair is.
Now, on top of a remake of Halloween, one of those pictures that should have been off limits for remaking forever, there is now preparations to redo "Escape From New York". When I first about that, I almost cut all the sleeves off my shirts, ripped my eye out, slapped a patch over it, and told everyone to start calling me "Snake" as doom rained down on city streets everywhere. If I were Carpenter, I would be screaming "bloody murder" and asking for people's heads for screwing with my brilliant film resume like this. First, the powers that be decided to f*** with George Romero's films, now this.
I can only hope that JC is in the midst of writing a screenplay for a picture that involves revenge against studio executives and development twits. He can make it cheap, like the good ol' days, and just sell it online and make millions just from that venue alone. Bottom line, I don't care what you say, but remaking "Escape" is wrong. I mean, seriously, who are they possibly gonna get to replace Adrianne Barbeau and her five star rack?

-so sayeth the mastermind(Call me Snake)-

 

[black_dust]

Now, granted, John Carpenter may have directed a cinematic steamin' turd or deux in recent years; however, as a film enthusiast dork, I have to give the man credit for the films which he did strike gold with including The Fog, Starman, and of course, The Thing, which was a remake and an awesome one at that. So, when Carpenter remakes a film, it usually works; however, when someone tries to remake a Carpenter picture, it's crap, plain and simple and do not try to justify the "Fog" remake to me. I don't care how hot Selma Blair is.
Now, on top of a remake of Halloween, one of those pictures that should have been off limits for remaking forever, there is now preparations to redo "Escape From New York". When I first about that, I almost cut all the sleeves off my shirts, ripped my eye out, slapped a patch over it, and told everyone to start calling me "Snake" as doom rained down on city streets everywhere. If I were Carpenter, I would be screaming "bloody murder" and asking for people's heads for screwing with my brilliant film resume like this. First, the powers that be decided to f*** with George Romero's films, now this.
I can only hope that JC is in the midst of writing a screenplay for a picture that involves revenge against studio executives and development twits. He can make it cheap, like the good ol' days, and just sell it online and make millions just from that venue alone. Bottom line, I don't care what you say, but remaking "Escape" is wrong. I mean, seriously, who are they possibly gonna get to replace Adrianne Barbeau and her five star rack?

-so sayeth the mastermind(Call me Snake)-

Wouldnt John own the rights to the Characters in Halloween and Escape from... seeing as he hasnt done a film in awhile he is running out of money and sold the rights to his characters?