explain jean grey powers in x-men 3

[ken smith]

I know jean grey powers are telekinetics and telepathy,but how does she have the power to turn peopple into dusts. and how did she control cyclops optic blast. someone please explain thanks

 

[Xplicit Content]

She can telekinetically control everyone's molecules, I guess...in that respect, she can pull them all apart telekinetically at the molecular level.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

well bassically the ash thing is her true power along wit the telepathy and telekenisis its jus xavier blocked them off wen jean was a little girl. but i mean honestly the powers she had in x3 werent accurate. in the real phoenix saga she had the power to knock out universes wit the snap of her fingers.

yah i think xplicit content put it better then i did also the real phoenix cud have burnt off wolverines hair and not jus his skin and suit .

 

[Avalanche]

She could use telekinesis to control Cyclop's blast. Hold it in. My take, is she can telekinetically control molecules on a atomic scale, hence she can rip them apart.

 

[javon]

well bassically the ash thing is her true power along wit the telepathy and telekenisis its jus xavier blocked them off wen jean was a little girl. but i mean honestly the powers she had in x3 werent accurate. in the real phoenix saga she had the power to knock out universes wit the snap of her fingers.

yah i think xplicit content put it better then i did also the real phoenix cud have burnt off wolverines hair and not jus his skin and suit .

She kept trying to burn wolverine like everyone else but i guess she must have underestimated his healing factor.

 

[Avalanche]

^ She wasn't trying to burn it so much as trying to pull it apart.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

She kept trying to burn wolverine like everyone else but i guess she must have underestimated his healing factor.

lol yah probably another theory is the jean inside the phoenix was holding bak becuz of her affection for wolverine

 

[Celestio]

Yup, telekinesis in all its forms - including molecular.

That's why Xavier literally blows up. Reminds me of Piper from Charmed actually.

 

[PyroProductions]

The ash was not Jean Grey's power, it was the Phoenix's. The Phoenix is the symbol of fire, and that is what the ashes represented. Jean was a Class 5 mutant with incredible telekenetic powers, but she had an imbalance of good and evil, and could not control the two. I guess you could say she was bipolar.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

she doesn't hold in cyclop's blasts silly...

she just tricks his brain into thinking he has his visors on, hence no blasting...

notice scott never says anything about not having red vision anymore. scott's lack of ability to control his optic blasts is purely due to mental trauma. she merely did what the ruby quartz do and trick his brain into thinking they are firing all the time.

 

[PyroProductions]

she doesn't hold in cyclop's blasts silly...

she just tricks his brain into thinking he has his visors on, hence no blasting...

notice scott never says anything about not having red vision anymore. scott's lack of ability to control his optic blasts is purely due to mental trauma. she merely did what the ruby quartz do and trick his brain into thinking they are firing all the time.

 

[Steelsheen]

She kept trying to burn wolverine like everyone else but i guess she must have underestimated his healing factor.

hmmm, its still an inconsistency. the Phoenix was at the height of her power and there was no indication that she was letting up to Jean Grey or to Wolverine.

i noticed that Wolverine would bow low like he was avoiding flames and he wouldnt get wounded as much. that's how close he got to her. but to me it still wouldnt make any sense because with the Phoenix being that powerful is there such a thing as range to her?

 

[Avalanche]

she doesn't hold in cyclop's blasts silly...

she just tricks his brain into thinking he has his visors on, hence no blasting...

notice scott never says anything about not having red vision anymore. scott's lack of ability to control his optic blasts is purely due to mental trauma. she merely did what the ruby quartz do and trick his brain into thinking they are firing all the time.

Really?

I thought his accident caused some physical brain trauma, hence he didn't have the ability to turn his power off when normally he could have.

Surely if it was just mental Xavier could fix it. Block all memories of what caused the mental trauma?

 

[Quinza]

Really?

I thought his accident caused some physical brain trauma, hence he didn't have the ability to turn his power off when normally he could have.

Surely if it was just mental Xavier could fix it. Block all memories of what caused the mental trauma?

In Astonishing X-Men #14, during an imprompu telepathic "therapy session", Emma Frost presented Cyclops with the possibility that his lack of control over his optic blasts actually stems from a sort of mental block that the young Scott imposed upon himself after the combined traumas of the loss of his parents, separation from his brother, and shocking manifestation of his powers; this is seen as a coping mechanism, giving Scott something to focus on and try to maintain some sort of control over at a time when events completely out of his control had effectively shattered the life he had led up to that point.
Surprisingly, Scott seems to admit that this theory is the truth of the matter, further admitting that he had even blocked making this decision out of his memory, to preserve the fallacy in his own mind and prevent others from discovering his "secret" (how Emma Frost was able to root this out of his mind when more powerful telepaths who have had longer personal relationships with Scott, such as Charles Xavier and Jean Grey, were unable to, has yet to be explained). The issue ends with Scott apparently in a catatonic state, with his eyes uncovered and displaying their natural shade of brown, with no evidence of his powers manifesting

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Really?

I thought his accident caused some physical brain trauma, hence he didn't have the ability to turn his power off when normally he could have.

Surely if it was just mental Xavier could fix it. Block all memories of what caused the mental trauma?

well phoenix is more powerful than xavier in the movie so perhaps she's able to cross the ts and dot the I's xavier never managed to.

all very plausible.

we're both right.

he wears the visor to trick his brain, it's not a physical barrier stopping the blasts from coming out... (although it is shown to look that way when he's angry (hence they glow brighter))

 

[PyroProductions]

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[pdrumans]

In Astonishing X-Men #14, during an imprompu telepathic "therapy session", Emma Frost presented Cyclops with the possibility that his lack of control over his optic blasts actually stems from a sort of mental block that the young Scott imposed upon himself after the combined traumas of the loss of his parents, separation from his brother, and shocking manifestation of his powers; this is seen as a coping mechanism, giving Scott something to focus on and try to maintain some sort of control over at a time when events completely out of his control had effectively shattered the life he had led up to that point.
Surprisingly, Scott seems to admit that this theory is the truth of the matter, further admitting that he had even blocked making this decision out of his memory, to preserve the fallacy in his own mind and prevent others from discovering his "secret" (how Emma Frost was able to root this out of his mind when more powerful telepaths who have had longer personal relationships with Scott, such as Charles Xavier and Jean Grey, were unable to, has yet to be explained). The issue ends with Scott apparently in a catatonic state, with his eyes uncovered and displaying their natural shade of brown, with no evidence of his powers manifesting

Good, they need to get rid of the visor. I mean in 40 years of X-men, they gave the prof a clone body, healed a hole in Colossus' chest, gave Storm back her powers, brought Jean back how many times and they could not fix what they thought was some minor damage to his brain in all that time. They have had coutless healers and advanced alien tech at their disposal. The visor was just too much of a cross to bare. The mental thing, well I will see how that plays out, but at least they are addressing his problem.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

notice scott never says anything about not having red vision anymore. scott's lack of ability to control his optic blasts is purely due to mental trauma. she merely did what the ruby quartz do and trick his brain into thinking they are firing all the time.

How could he?
Jean's tounge was down his throat!

 

[Avalanche]

He's a mutant. It has nothing to do with brain trauma. He automatically fired the rays from his eyes. The red quartz did trick him into thinking he was firing the whole time, even when he wasn't. That was the only way to "turn his power off."

Ah, I didn't know that. I was under the impression the glasses somehow reflected the beam, or kept it contained. Never fully understood it. I'd always been under the impression Scott would have been able to activate his powers when he wanted were it not for his brain injury.

 

[ken smith]

thanks to all who answered, but do you think dark phoenix is more powerful than onslaught, superman or the hulk because these three have healing powers and she couldn't kill wolverine .what does that mean

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

How could he?
Jean's tounge was down his throat!

i don't know why point you are trying to make



explain to me what you are trying to say

 

[Sketchee]

Jean's powers of telekinesis could rip apart a person just as Magneto could rip apart a metal bridge or rip iron out of someone's blood. It's just about moving things. I could rip something apart with my hands, so why wouldn't Jean be able to do it with her mind? It was pure telekinesis in this one.

In the end when Jean was ripping apart Wolverine and he was healing ... His healing factor was working way faster than it did in the last two wasn't it? I suppose it was pretty fast in the Deathstrike scene but not this fast!

 

[pdrumans]

In the comics, it was always thought to be a physical trauma/damage to the part of his brain which was the mental mechanism that would allow him to turn his blasts on an off. Basically that part of his brain got stuck in the on position. Now I guess they may be going the route that it was a self induced mental issue. In the original X-men 132, Phoenix held back his optic blasts with ther telekinesis. She did not turn off his power. In the movie, it looks that she actually held it back and then turned it off.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

thanks to all who answered, but do you think dark phoenix is more powerful than onslaught, superman or the hulk because these three have healing powers and she couldn't kill wolverine .what does that mean

in teh movies, only supes wouldn't be able to take her down

onslaught is a tricky one since he was the manifestation of cumatively four incredibly powerful beings which could in theory take down most creatures but without x-man and franklin richards i don't know how well he would do...

movie hulk could take down movie pheonix if wolverine had such an easy time doing it..


this is just a long winded way of saying i don't know to be honest...

 

[pdrumans]

Ah, I didn't know that. I was under the impression the glasses somehow reflected the beam, or kept it contained. Never fully understood it. I'd always been under the impression Scott would have been able to activate his powers when he wanted were it not for his brain injury.

You are correct, that is the way they work