Comics Fan Backlash... Clone Saga vs. OMD?

[ragingdemon155]

We know that the Fan Backlash is coming soon. I mean what we're hearing around the internet message boards is a just the calm before the storm. So the question is.....

Will the backlash from fans be worse after "OMD" then it was during the "Clone Saga"?

 

[Infidel]

OMD is really, really, really, really terrible. To put it simply.

 

[USMC]

The only problem with Clone Saga is that it went on way too long. Storywise, it was compelling and well-written.

OMD is a big steeping pile of ****.

 

[Blader5489]

Looking at it objectively, the Clone Saga is a hundred times worse than OMD. But everyone is going to vote OMD because that's what's out right now.

Can we at least wait until part 4 and BND come out before we start burning Joe Quesada effigies?

 

[USMC]

Looking at it objectively, the Clone Saga is a hundred times worse than OMD. But everyone is going to vote OMD because that's what's out right now.

Can we at least wait until part 4 and BND come out before we start burning Joe Quesada effigies?

But we already know the ending of OMD...

And it only took 3 issues for it to suck balls. The first year of the Clone Saga was awesome, and everyone at that time (and even most today) agreed.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

OMD, the Peter & MJ marriage is such an important thing. Sure, the Clone Saga lasted too long and that is a bad thing, but OMD is dissapointing.

 

[Blader5489]

But we already know the ending of OMD...

No, we don't. Unless you have read ASM #545, then you don't truly know how it ends.

The first year of the Clone Saga was awesome, and everyone at that time (and even most today) agreed.

I don't know what you consider to be the "first year of the Clone Saga", but for me, the "Power and Responsibility" arc started that whole clone era. And looking at it from that starting point, there were only two (maybe three) good stories. Nothing "awesome" and nothing spanning a whole year.

OMD, the Peter & MJ marriage is such an important thing.

More important than Peter actually being Spider-Man? OMD may be stripping Peter of his marriage, but the Clone Saga stripped Peter of his alter-ego.

 

[Sloth7d]

Clone Saga actually had a plot that was good at one point. Unfortunately, OMD will not suffer from the backlash it did. Why? One word. Slott. Though I won't be reading it.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I've always wanted to see what Dan Slott could do on a regular Spider title. It's a shame that I haven't decided if I'll be picking it up or not yet, due to the fact that as a Spider fan I feel that Marvel has been slapping me in the face left and right recently.

 

[Sloth7d]

I know. Avengers Initiative really makes me want to buy his run on ASM, but I just can't get over what they're doing.

 

[Infinity9999x]

But we already know the ending of OMD...

And it only took 3 issues for it to suck balls. The first year of the Clone Saga was awesome, and everyone at that time (and even most today) agreed.

I quite liked the first year of the clone saga. And had Marvel not meant it as a way to replace Peter, but just a compelling story about Peter, Ben Riley, the Jackal, and Kane, I think it could have been a very good arc.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

I'd take a 100 clone sagas over one OMD... Mephisto?! C'mon! When the clone saga was supposed to be fixed, someone suggested Mephisto... That was shot down because it was too cosmic... but, Peter Potter and the Deathy Marriage can be retconned by the devil, cause Peter's now a magical being... Yay lazy writing!!!

 

[Sloth7d]

Not only that, but what's this I hear about wanting Peter's soul to cry?

 

[Fanged-Hunter]

I'll vote Clone Saga was worse because it required me to buy ever single Spider-Man title published every single month for over a year. I actually stopped reading Spider-Man about halfway through it.

Will I stop buying Spider-Man now? To be honest, I'm on the fence. I'll probably give up Friendly Neighborhood and Spectacular, but having three issues of Amazing a month is pushing it again. There's a chance I'll take a break from Spider-Man.

Remember when Peter was "revealed" to be the clone? Didn't Spider-Man drop from the top 5 sold comics for the first time in just about ever when they did that?

 

[Blader5489]

Will I stop buying Spider-Man now? To be honest, I'm on the fence. I'll probably give up Friendly Neighborhood and Spectacular, but having three issues of Amazing a month is pushing it again. There's a chance I'll take a break from Spider-Man.

You don't have a choice. They have been canceled.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

The only problem with Clone Saga is that it went on way too long. Storywise, it was compelling and well-written.

OMD is a big steeping pile of ****.

(< That's Spidey after Doc Conner's formula!)

 

[Galactus]

The clone-saga well-written? It was a big mess. "Surprising" twist after "surprising" twist. And some of those were even never resolved. I haven't read OMD yet, but for now the clone-saga remains the biggest pile of crap I've read in my life (together with Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time books, but that's another story... )

 

[Sloth7d]

The clone-saga well-written? It was a big mess. "Surprising" twist after "surprising" twist. And some of those were even never resolved. I haven't read OMD yet, but for now the clone-saga remains the biggest pile of crap I've read in my life (together with Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time books, but that's another story... )

Don't read it. I'll summarize it so far.

Aunt May gets shot. Is Dying. Mespito shows up for some reason. He wants Petes(out of all people) marriage in exchange he'll save Aunt May. The reason being so Pete's and MJ's soul will eternally cry. He and MJ have One More Day to consider the offer.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

More important than Peter actually being Spider-Man? OMD may be stripping Peter of his marriage, but the Clone Saga stripped Peter of his alter-ego.

No, but JQ just decided to split the marriage out of no where. He was probably like, "ohhhhh, I have a good idea. How about I split up the marriage? JQ, you did it again. Your so great." Unfortunatley, JQ, that was a bad idea. So that's one of the reason's why I think OMD will have a little bigger impact on fan's. Hopefully it will teach JQ a lesson.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Right about now....

I'd kill for some Clone Saga action.

 

[JayTee]

Of course The Clone Saga will piss off more people. People actually read Spider-Man back then.

 

[DACrowe]

As I've said this is making me nostolgic for the clone saga days.

And I hated the Clone Saga.

Yeah....

 

[Blader5489]

No, but JQ just decided to split the marriage out of no where. He was probably like, "ohhhhh, I have a good idea. How about I split up the marriage? JQ, you did it again. Your so great." Unfortunatley, JQ, that was a bad idea. So that's one of the reason's why I think OMD will have a little bigger impact on fan's. Hopefully it will teach JQ a lesson.

OMD is changing one aspect of the character, while the Clone Saga usurped Peter of his actual identity. How is that not worse? How is being married to MJ more important than actually being Spider-Man?

 

[Themanofbat]

No, but JQ just decided to split the marriage out of no where. He was probably like, "ohhhhh, I have a good idea. How about I split up the marriage? JQ, you did it again. Your so great." Unfortunatley, JQ, that was a bad idea. So that's one of the reason's why I think OMD will have a little bigger impact on fan's. Hopefully it will teach JQ a lesson.

See? That's just plain fan ignorance right there.

The marriage split is NOT an idea that Joey Q just sprouted out from nowhere.

Many writers have balked from writing Spider-Man over the last 20 years because... a) they either felt like they didn't want to write about a married Spidey or b) they had the creative inability to write about a married Spider-Man.

Either way, despite the fans loving the idea of a married Peter & MJ, it's been a big hinderance to Marvel's writers for 20 years, so in one form or the other, it was decided that it had to go. That doesn't mean I like the idea, but if it's done properly, I can live with it and move on.

In 1973, the powers that be at Marvel felt like they couldn't do anything more with Gwen's character, so they had her killed, probably to the shock and outrage to many Spider-Man fans. Yet people talk about that story nowadays like it's the greatest thing that ever happened to the character. And I'm not going to pretend that OMD will have the same impact to Spidey readers in 30 years from now, but as I mentioned in the previous paragraph, if it's done properly, I can live with it and move on.

I read the stories of the Amazing Spider-Man every month... not The Amazing Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson-Parker. Again.... if it's done properly, I can live with it and move on.

Anyhoo.... that's just MY two cents...

 

[Blader5489]

In 1973, the powers that be at Marvel felt like they couldn't do anything more with Gwen's character, so they had her killed, probably to the shock and outrage to many Spider-Man fans.

It's worth mentioning that the whole reason "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" was even written was because Marvel felt it was the only way to avoid a married Spider-Man. So really, Marvel has been looking for ways to keep Peter single for over 30 years. Like you said, this is hardly a Joe Q agenda.