Fan Review Thread SPOILERS INSIDE - Part 2

[TeeKay]

That scene is like the death of Jonathan. I think Cavill acts very well, but the rest of the scenes make no sense to me.

Again the Jonathan death scene was executed poorly, I get what Goyer was trying to say but I don't think Snyder handled it well and to me it meant nothing since Clark was still going out of his way to save people a while after his death even though Pa Kent was against it, sacrificing his own life to protect his son's secret. A lot of contradiction going on there. What other scenes are you talking about?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He stares at Selvig, who then becomes apologietic. Why would he be angry? It's not like Loki didn't do bad things to him and Thor has both grieved and "disowned" his brother before.

The same reason his mother was sad by her son being in jail. He loves his brother. They have had hundreds of years together. Remember "I wish I could trust you". Loki doing bad things doesn't change his love for him, just like it didn't change Frigga's.

I don't agree with that interpretation at all. It just reminds me of guys who go "that girl just smiled at me, she must like me!", when someone is just being nice.

He did that with Darcy. It was clearly something different on the train. He was quite pleased with himself.

Yeah dude youre over analyzing the scene. Supes is clearly screaming because he's just killed the last of his race not because of all the death and destruction(despite having time to make out with Lois admist the destruction) and he only reacts now? btw I didn't like that scene at all. It was executed poorly IMO.You seem to have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to MoS. And I agree with Crimson, You seem to have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to MoS.

Oh, I over analyze it, while you simply dismiss it, and then defend TDW and IM3 like I am missing vital information from them, even though I have made a vast amount of post on the subject that go into great detail. But I am the only one with theoretical rose-tinted glasses.

You are so biased towards MCU it is ridiculous. Just like King is with Thor. But I avoid it and simply try to discuss the points. But you and King can't stop, and you have to insult me, so I don't think I am going to show you the same courtesy anymore in that regard.

By the way, you don't want to talk MoS, then don't bring it up. It has nothing to do with TDW, so stop trying to use it to excuse things in TDW. It is the exact thing jmc brought up earlier. Attempting to use TDK to justify bad writing in other films.

It doesn't change the writing and execution in TDW.

 

[Tony Stark]

Yeah dude youre over analyzing the scene. Supes is clearly screaming because he's just killed the last of his race not because of all the death and destruction(despite having time to make out with Lois admist the destruction) and he only reacts now? btw I didn't like that scene at all. It was executed poorly IMO.You seem to have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to MoS. And I agree with Crimson, You seem to have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to MoS.

What was worse was that he chooses to make out with Lois in the middle of ground zero. If Goyer new how to write, Lois would probably be an emotional wreck seeing that half of Metropolis was destroyed. It was essentially Metropolis' 911 and Supes and Lois are too horny to morn the thousands killed.

I don't think it was done intentionally. No that would mean someone actually had thought when they were writing/directing Man of Steel.

Whatever the faults of TDW it is hands and feet better, simply because of the acting and writing. The direction I'll call a wash. It was a weak point of Thor, and clearly Branagh was a better director than Taylor, which is why I think a lot of critics are not liking it as much as the first. Snyder and Taylor are both mediocre directors, so I'm not going to take sides on who is better.

All you need to know about the difference between Thor and Man of Steel is that Thor was solid enough to launch 3 solo films where Man of Steel was so mixed they had to dig up Batman to saves Supes' movie career. The post Christopher Reeve world of Superman has not been kind.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What was worse was that he chooses to make out with Lois in the middle of ground zero. If Goyer new how to write, Lois would probably be an emotional wreck seeing that half of Metropolis was destroyed. It was essentially Metropolis' 911 and Supes and Lois are too horny to morn the thousands killed.

I don't think it was done intentionally. No that would mean someone actually had thought when they were writing/directing Man of Steel.

It is a gut reaction to the situation. They both just survived something they shouldn't have. He just saved her life and they just saved the world. They make out. It is completely emotional and thus in line with what is going on.

Whatever the faults of TDW it is hands and feet better, simply because of the acting and writing. The direction I'll call a wash. It was a weak point of Thor, and clearly Branagh was a better director than Taylor, which is why I think a lot of critics are not liking it as much as the first. Snyder and Taylor are both mediocre directors, so I'm not going to take sides on who is better.

I find TDW biggest weakness its writing and biggest strength, directing.

All you need to know about the difference between Thor and Man of Steel is that Thor was solid enough to launch 3 solo films where Man of Steel was so mixed they had to dig up Batman to saves Supes' movie career. The post Christopher Reeve world of Superman has not been kind.

This is so made up, it is ridiculous. Batman/Superman has been in the works for a good while now. They just couldn't talk about it. It also avoids the existence of the Avengers and its effect on the solo films being made.

 

[Tony Stark]

BS, they pulled Batman out of their ass rather than make a direct sequel to MoS. It was reactionary and interference from WB from what was seen as a disappointment not clearing 300M domestic after the opening it had. Adjusted for inflation and 3D it was about the same as Superman Returns. If you don't admit it was a disappointment then you are wearing rose colored glasses.

As far as the writing, I'm talking about writing intelligently which apparently Goyer is incapable of without Jonathan Nolan wiping his bottom. No stupid lines like "where am I supposed to pee?" or "are you out of your F-ing mind?"

 

[Mjölnir]

The same reason his mother was sad by her son being in jail. He loves his brother. They have had hundreds of years together. Remember "I wish I could trust you". Loki doing bad things doesn't change his love for him, just like it didn't change Frigga's.

He also says that he no longer holds any hope that his brother is somewhere inside him. But that doesn't matter because you only explain why Thor would be sad about Loki dying (if he didn't have love for him before, he would have gotten it back when Loki redeemed himself on Svartalfheim). It's not really an argument why Thor must become angry with Selvig.

Why couldn't Thor do what he does, which accept Selvig's attempt at apologizing? It's not like he hasn't said anything bad about Loki himself, nor should he have any trouble seeing why Selvig is really afraid of his brother, which is the reason for the first comment.

He did that with Darcy. It was clearly something different on the train. He was quite pleased with himself.

We won't get anywhere here, at least not without being able to see the scene and point to details. I don't think it makes sense to call it flirting, both from how it looked and from Thor's character.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

 

[Sub-Zero]

meowmeow. darcy was pretty hot for an annoyance in this one. my two cents

 

[Mjölnir]

Again the Jonathan death scene was executed poorly, I get what Goyer was trying to say but I don't think Snyder handled it well and to me it meant nothing since Clark was still going out of his way to save people a while after his death even though Pa Kent was against it, sacrificing his own life to protect his son's secret. A lot of contradiction going on there. What other scenes are you talking about?

This might not be the place for it but I think it's both the behavior and that they break their own physics. The other scene is the one you were discussion, Zod's death. One problem there is that Superman isn't strong enough to move Zod's head a little to the left, but somehow strong enough to actually break his neck. It doesn't get better of that breaking necks like that in movies is a pet peeve on mine (together with movie strangling).

 

[Feenix]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

I'll extend that saying people wanted so much out of this movie in general and when it didn't live up to very very specific expectations, people complained.

 

[TeeKay]

The same reason his mother was sad by her son being in jail. He loves his brother. They have had hundreds of years together. Remember "I wish I could trust you". Loki doing bad things doesn't change his love for him, just like it didn't change Frigga's.


He did that with Darcy. It was clearly something different on the train. He was quite pleased with himself.


Oh, I over analyze it, while you simply dismiss it, and then defend TDW and IM3 like I am missing vital information from them, even though I have made a vast amount of post on the subject that go into great detail. But I am the only one with theoretical rose-tinted glasses.

You are so biased towards MCU it is ridiculous. Just like King is with Thor. But I avoid it and simply try to discuss the points. But you and King can't stop, and you have to insult me, so I don't think I am going to show you the same courtesy anymore in that regard.

By the way, you don't want to talk MoS, then don't bring it up. It has nothing to do with TDW, so stop trying to use it to excuse things in TDW. It is the exact thing jmc brought up earlier. Attempting to use TDK to justify bad writing in other films.

It doesn't change the writing and execution in TDW.

I didn't bring up MOS. But nonetheless,the only time I've defended IM3 recently in this thread is when somebody brought up that Tony was cracking jokes when Pepper when he wasn't. I dont know if I have defended TDW as much as I did with IM3. And I'm sorry if I have insulted you in anyway (not sure if I did,correct me if I'm wrong). Nevertheless I'm truly sorry.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

I totally agree. The guy was pretty grieved by his death, but he was happy that he died honorably, which he tells "Odin" at the end of the film.

People also forget the "Viking mentality", you fight with honor and you go to Valhalla which is of the highest honor.

Second of all, it was also a moment of humor I the film, and everyone was busting up at my theater when Eric said it. It's much like the "he's adopted" line from Avengers which some people took offense to. It wasn't meant to say that adopted children turn out to be murderers, it was Thor trying to distance himself from Loki's actions in an akward way.

 

[TeeKay]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

 

[tay1]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

I'll extend that saying people wanted so much out of this movie in general and when it didn't live up to very very specific expectations, people complained.

 

[TeeKay]

This just came to mind, the fact that Darcy tried contacting Shield and they didn't respond, was this somehow forshadowing the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Just saw and loved it. Very good, they had the right amount of humor/action/drama in it. The only downside to the film I think would be Sif and The Warriors 3 not really having much screentime or any real memorable scenes. LOVED Friggas scene, if she had to die, that is how I would want it to be. A lot of people probably thought she was defenseless but she can hang with the best of them. Loki transforming into Capt.America was just GOLD.

Since AoS is suppose to deal with the aftermath of Thor (or is Captain America?) I wonder if they are going to deal with an alien beast roaming around the United States.

 

[Mjölnir]

Since AoS is suppose to deal with the aftermath of Thor (or is Captain America?) I wonder if they are going to deal with an alien beast roaming around the United States.

It's certainly possible since the news item said that the team would pick up the pieces after the showdown and that one of them would threaten to destroy a member of the team. Could certainly be the beast.

It took place in London though, not the US.

 

[ares834]

All you need to know about the difference between Thor and Man of Steel is that Thor was solid enough to launch 3 solo films where Man of Steel was so mixed they had to dig up Batman to saves Supes' movie career. The post Christopher Reeve world of Superman has not been kind.

This is one of the most stupid and uninformed posts I have seen in a long while.

 

[TeeKay]

It's certainly possible since the news item said that the team would pick up the pieces after the showdown and that one of them would threaten to destroy a member of the team. Could certainly be the beast.

It took place in London though, not the US.

They have a plane. Can't wait for that episode though,I was very 'meh' about the first three episodes but since then, the show has improved.

 

[Son of Coul]

I think too many people wanted Thor to act out of character. He knows his sorrow for his brother isn't shared and he is polite. Of course he won't chew out Selvig, especially given he knows what Loki did to him.

I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills in regard to Thor's "lack of sadness/depression."

Haha, forgot about the scene with Selvig's reaction. That was actually hilarious.

 

[ares834]

Yeah, that was easily my favorite scene with Selvig. It was great as the humor itself didn't feel forced but felt natural.

 

[Tony Stark]

That was good, but mine was the part were he's teaching the "classroom"!

 

[Primal Slayer]

It's certainly possible since the news item said that the team would pick up the pieces after the showdown and that one of them would threaten to destroy a member of the team. Could certainly be the beast.

It took place in London though, not the US.

Oh yeah it did. Oops.

 

[TeeKay]

That was good, but mine was the part were he's teaching the "classroom"!

Especially the Stan Lee cameo. :')

 

[Cosmic]

I saw this movie last night and loved it. Everyone in my viewing group loved it. Some of the minor nitpicks detailed earlier in the thread are valid, but the good far outweighed the bad. I strongly recommend this for any Thor fans, or general superhero fans who haven't seen it, yet. This was easily one of the more enjoyable films of the year for me, and I'll definitely return to see it again.

And I just want to say, someone singled out "comic book nerds" for trolling this thread, but it's really not. It's just a few obsessives who feel the need to keep arguing and reiterating their points all day long. I'm probably one of the more "purist" comic fans around here, and I felt like this was the kind of comic book movie that I grew up hoping to see someday, and it did a very good job of respecting the source material.