Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 36

[DarthSkywalker]

So Kinberg got a massive pay check?

Probably why there is no hard feelings.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I don't even need to wait for it's weekend. Ant-Man is most likely not hitting 65mil with that Friday number and might go under 60mil and it has the Marvel brand and better marketing (not good marketing but better) than FF. I'm now thinking 35-45mil opening weekend.

It's unfortunate that Ant-Man may not break bigger than $60 million for its opening weekend, but it was a--and pardon the pun--FANTASTIC film--and deserves all of the great reviews (it was at 80% Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes today) and word of mouth it's receiving. It deserves to do better but its legs will catch on in the weeks to come I think.

I seriously doubt this film will be anywhere near as lucky as Ant-Man for many reasons. For instance, I think critics will not be kind and the word of mouth is already so poor since this franchise is already regarded as box office poison. It looks so awkward and unremarkable in the trailers and TV spots as it is, what hope is there that the film contains better?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

BvS really should have tried to make the July 2015 date. It would have been clean sailing.

 

[Snow Queen]

BvS really should have tried to make the July 2015 date. It would have been clean sailing.

They were being nice and decided to let Ant-Man make more than $100.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

They were being nice and decided to let Ant-Man make more than $100.

Well, that was nice of them indeed. Especially considering they didn't exactly make too much more than that themselves with Man Of Steel.

 

[Kelly]

*walks into thread*

*shakes head*

*walks back out*

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

BvS really should have tried to make the July 2015 date. It would have been clean sailing.

It would really have been.

They were being nice and decided to let Ant-Man make more than $100.

 

[Spiderine]

It's unfortunate that Ant-Man may not break bigger than $60 million for its opening weekend, but it was a--and pardon the pun--FANTASTIC film--and deserves all of the great reviews (it was at 80% Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes today) and word of mouth it's receiving. It deserves to do better but its legs will catch on in the weeks to come I think.

I seriously doubt this film will be anywhere near as lucky as Ant-Man for many reasons. For instance, I think critics will not be kind and the word of mouth is already so poor since this franchise is already regarded as box office poison. It looks so awkward and unremarkable in the trailers and TV spots as it is, what hope is there that the film contains better?

Lets not forget its a reboot of a disappointing franchise to begin with. Less than 8 years ago. We all know how successful those are.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

This movie is gonna have a rock hard adventure... as it crashes and burns at the box office. Did I do that right?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

*walks into thread*

*shakes head*

*walks back out*

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This place is fun, crazy but fun.

 

[TheVileOne]

Take it for what it's worth, but Kinberg publicly defended Trank and said all those rumors were not true.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

This place is fun, crazy but fun.

We are products of our environment dear.

 

[Eddie]

Take it for what it's worth, but Kinberg publicly defended Trank and said all those rumors were not true.

Odd he couldn't bother doing that when the rumors first blew up, especially since Trank was already making an ass of himself on social media before any of this support from Kinberg.

Also worth noting that Fox probably has to defend Trank at this point. If a fraction of the rumors are true and it came out as a confirmed fact it may violate a term in the licensing agreement.

 

[TheVileOne]

How would any of the rumors violate the licensing agreement? Also if it was that dire, I doubt Disney would be OK with Kinberg working on the Star Wars franchise so heavily.

 

[Eddie]

I believe (after what happened with Corman's version) that there are some stipulations in regards to minimum levels of effort and whatnot. They can't just make a film that isn't actually going to release to hold the rights, for example. As tight as the deadline was on getting this film made (the rights were about to expire) a misstep could have been problematic. Rumors about the director not showing up, turning in a film so bad it had to undergo massive reshoots, the script being rewritten daily, those are some of the rumors flying around. None of us know the terms of the contract, but all of those things could theoretically be red flags if there's any sort of clause protecting against another Corman-esque effort.

 

[TheVileOne]

I believe (after what happened with Corman's version) that there are some stipulations in regards to minimum levels of effort and whatnot. They can't just make a film that isn't actually going to release to hold the rights, for example. As tight as the deadline was on getting this film made (the rights were about to expire) a misstep could have been problematic. Rumors about the director not showing up, turning in a film so bad it had to undergo massive reshoots, the script being rewritten daily, those are some of the rumors flying around. None of us know the terms of the contract, but all of those things could theoretically be red flags if there's any sort of clause protecting against another Corman-esque effort.

Those apparent rules in the agreement don't necessarily cause a violation due to the rumors. This was clearly still a big budget production, whether the film had a tough principal photography period or not, which plenty of films do. A lot of films have scripts or scenes re-written daily that are very successful.

Jeff Bridges said they didn't have a finished script when they filmed Iron Man.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Take it for what it's worth, but Kinberg publicly defended Trank and said all those rumors were not true.

Of course he would say that.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Kinberg is doing damage control on the negative rumor mill that paints a film he's working on in a bad light? Color me shocked! That never happens.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Take it for what it's worth, but Kinberg publicly defended Trank and said all those rumors were not true.

"Fantastic Four will be doing 3-4 days of additional photography."
- Simon Kinberg

 

[Man in the Suit]

"Fantastic Four will be doing 3-4 days of additional photography."
- Simon Kinberg

Yep. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Every week.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

"Fantastic Four will be doing 3-4 days of additional photography."
- Simon Kinberg

Exactly.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This place is fun, crazy but fun.

You know I have made it better.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

On Kinberg, he is major face saving mode. He hired Trank and then recommended him to Lucasfilms. It is one of the reasons why he has tried so hard to keep this film on track and to cover up Trank's issues. It is why he asked Vaughn to try and come it to save the situation.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You know I have made it better.

You make everything better baby.