Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 36

[Spider-Aziz]

Did anyone else see the new TV spot with Johnny flying through the warm hole dogding air plane parts? Good lord it looks terrible.

I hoped to read something hope inspiring.

 

[Eddie]

The CG planes on network television looks as good as the plane in that spot. It is not modern summer blockbuster quality.

 

[Kelly]

I have still not seen one TV spot since the soccer finals....and I'm in the 4th largest city in the US...what the heck?

 

[Eddie]

Clearly you're not watching enough late night bull**** about conspiracy theories.

(Walked by the television last night and it had been left on one of those lousy shows. Then a FF spot played.)

 

[starscream22]

I hope FF fails, both critically and financially so the rights go back to Marvel. During Ant-Man's previews (Ant-Man was awesome btw), there was this weird trailer, as another guy mentioned few comments earlier, that is a version of the teaser trailer,features less fake lighthing, Sue's awful wig and the lava is back to red. Also, after the logo appearing in the end of the trailer, there is that weird shot of the Thing falling over a tank from the sky. I've searched everywhere online and couldn't find that exact trailer.

Bad casting choices, bad CGI, stupid humor, almost non-existent marketing and one of the best comic book villains, messed up and turned into an angry blogger (or they claim he isn't now?), is just inexcusable for a studio that desperately wants to keep the FF rights. Don't have even the slightest idea how this movie wasn't cancelled until this point. I will be watching M:I Rogue Nation instead of this.

Amen to that! Between, M:I5, Vacation and me and my kids wanting to see Ant-man again. 8/7 is pretty full as far as better alternatives go.

Sorry, my mistake. The trailer I was talking about was actually the teaser trailer. Doesn't matter, I still hope the movie fails lol.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I have still not seen one TV spot since the soccer finals....and I'm in the 4th largest city in the US...what the heck?

I haven't seen one since The NBA finals.

I did just see the trailer today with Ant-Man. That brings my sum total exposure to offline media to:

Poster at theater with a big 4 - seen four times
Second Trailer - Seen once with Age of Ultron
Final Trailer - Seen once with Ant-Man
TV Commercial - Seen once on NBA Finals
Human Torch on Cherry Crush Can - Same can design seen on 20-30 different cans.

 

[Zarex]

People need to move on from the rights reverting stuff. Even if this movie fails, Fox is not going to give it back to Marvel. The relationship between the studios is so toxic. They'll sit on the rights and give it to another talented director, or they'll stick the FF into another X-Men film (New Mutants). Fox is not going to allow another property to slip through their fingers like Daredevil or Star Wars.

We need to give it up? You, my friend, need to give it up.
The FF at FOX is D-U-N, and it's painfully obvious to anyone paying attention. Despite what we've seen from FFINO, FOX execs are not blithering idiots. The studio is going to take what ever little they can negotiate from Marvel - greatly reduced from what they could have gotten if they accepted Ike's offer two years ago - and declare victory.

 

[starscream22]

I have still not seen one TV spot since the soccer finals....and I'm in the 4th largest city in the US...what the heck?

Yesterday they were airing those individual one shots on FX in between IM2 commercials. But that's about it.

 

[TeeKay]

It didn't even look like there was a person in that cluster**** of flame.

It just looks like a ball of fire lol

 

[starscream22]

Did anyone else see the new TV spot with Johnny flying through the warm hole dogding air plane parts? Good lord it looks terrible.

Great Space Coaster and Land of the lost came to mind when I saw that.

 

[sleekstereo]

Hasn't it been established that they can't put the FF in with the X-Men? Besides, why would they bother making ANOTHER FF film when after this it'll be shown that they can't bring a profit from the franchise from the little effort they want to put into it?

I don't know who said they couldn't do it, but who ever did they should probably alert Simon Kinberg and Bryan Singer because both of them mentioned the possibility of it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Just curious; no bad intentions meant with this question or questioning people's opinions on this film:

Do you think this will fail because you don't like how the film is looking (i.e. not a Fan4 film) or because you generally think it looks like a horrible POS movie?

It looks bad. Really, really bad. A cheap film, which looks criminally bland and boring.

I thought it looked great, but some people will com pain about anything. I don't understand people who hate on this movie so much still post in the forums. Like, we get it. You hate everything about this movie.

And we get that you like everything about this. I guess you don't need to post here anymore.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I have still not seen one TV spot since the soccer finals....and I'm in the 4th largest city in the US...what the heck?

I watch way too much television and plenty of channels, and I haven't seen one since the World Cup either.

 

[Eddie]

To be fair here, Kinberg also claimed Fox could make an X-Men television show. He was full of ****. Fox can apparently develop one, as they're doing, but they can't actually make it unless Marvel signs off. As to using FF characters in an X-Men film, we don't know for sure. At one time, though, Fox told Zak Penn (who wrote some of their Marvel adaptations) that they couldn't cross them over. We'll see. I have to imagine throwing FF characters into an X-Men film would bump Marvel's cut of the film to Fantastic Four numbers, though, which are bigger than X-Men. You have to ask yourself, why would Fox want to make less profit on an X-Men film just to throw in the Fantastic Four?

 

[Tony Stark]

People need to move on from the rights reverting stuff. Even if this movie fails, Fox is not going to give it back to Marvel. The relationship between the studios is so toxic. They'll sit on the rights and give it to another talented director, or they'll stick the FF into another X-Men film (New Mutants). Fox is not going to allow another property to slip through their fingers like Daredevil or Star Wars.

They never owned the rights to Star Wars, Lucasfilm did from the start, Fox was only distributors. That's why Alan Ladd Jr. was fired from the board of directors at 20th century. The deal that was cut with Lucas gave him all the controlling rights to the characters and the film. They had to renegotiate the deal to do the prequels back in '96, because the deal had expired.

And sorry they can't just sit on the project, that's why they announced sequels. There are specifics in the deal that force them to meet production dates or they vacate the rights. They wanted to pull the plug on Kinberg and Trank but they risked losing the rights by doing so , so they went ahead with the project.

 

[sleekstereo]

We need to give it up? You, my friend, need to give it up.
The FF at FOX is D-U-N, and it's painfully obvious to anyone paying attention. Despite what we've seen from FFINO, FOX execs are not blithering idiots. The studio is going to take what ever little they can negotiate from Marvel - greatly reduced from what they could have gotten if they accepted Ike's offer two years ago - and declare victory.

Here is the thing, Fox doesn't need anything from Marvel. And you can say the same vice-versa. They are not in the position that Sony was in. Hell, last July they were thisclose to buying Time Warner/WB. Fox can sit on the FF if they wanted to and hand it to another director. Fox and Disney/Marvel are two successful companies, with the neither needing anything from the other.

 

[fantasticfan]

I have still not seen one TV spot since the soccer finals....and I'm in the 4th largest city in the US...what the heck?

That is odd, because I am in the NYC area and seeing several different versions daily now. I have noticed seeing them during the Nick(pre-teen/teen type shows) and ESPN/Fox Sports. My kids are very much looking forward to seeing it in the theatre!

 

[Tony Stark]

Here is the thing, Fox doesn't need anything from Marvel. And you can say the same vice-versa. They are not in the position that Sony was in. Hell, last July they were thisclose to buying Time Warner/WB. Fox can sit on the FF if they wanted to and hand it to another director. Fox and Disney/Marvel are two successful companies, with the neither needing anything from the other.

Fox is in jeopardy of entering single digit market share. You are foolish to think their studio isn't in trouble. Universal, Disney and Warner are owning the cinema market.

 

[Eddie]

Here is the thing, Fox doesn't need anything from Marvel. And you can say the same vice-versa. They are not in the position that Sony was in. Hell, last July they were thisclose to buying Time Warner/WB. Fox can sit on the FF if they wanted to and hand it to another director. Fox and Disney/Marvel are two successful companies, with the neither needing anything from the other.

Fox is actively developing an X-Men television show. They've spent money hiring people to do it. They cannot actually make it unless Marvel signs off.

Like it or not, they do need something from Marvel.

 

[Paradox1]

That is odd, because I am in the NYC area and seeing several different versions daily now. I have noticed seeing them during the Nick(pre-teen/teen type shows) and ESPN/Fox Sports. My kids are very much looking forward to seeing it in the theatre!

I'm with you on that, I live in Miami. I watch a couple hrs of live tv a day and I see those spots everyday.

 

[sleekstereo]

Fox is in jeopardy of entering single digit market share. You are foolish to think their studio isn't in trouble. Universal, Disney and Warner are owning the cinema market.

They have a huge fall line up. Maze Runner, The Martian, The Peanuts Movie, Victor Frankenstein, The Revenant, and Joy. The last two will most likely be up for Oscars in multiple fields. They'll be fine.

 

[RAE072]

Did anyone else see the new TV spot with Johnny flying through the warm hole dogding air plane parts? Good lord it looks terrible.

Yep, looked unbelievably awful.

Like, not even still working on effects awful, just downright completely awful.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Fox is in jeopardy of entering single digit market share. You are foolish to think their studio isn't in trouble. Universal, Disney and Warner are owning the cinema market.

Eh, cinema is one thing. Fox has plenty of money. Sony's problem isn't really their film division, but all the money they are losing elsewhere.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

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[Eddie]

Eh, cinema is one thing. Fox has plenty of money. Sony's problem isn't really their film division, but all the money they are losing elsewhere.

Their film division wasn't doing so well either. Their profitability per film was substandard, their own employees were questioning their business decisions, and their biggest franchise was in shambles (per the Sony leaks).