Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - Part 40

[Tony Stark]

Ok. How does it compare to Trial of the Incredible Hulk where, like Miles Teller, Banner/Hulk inexplicably has facial hair in one scene and then suddenly not?

One thing for future directors casting Miles Teller....DON'T EVER HAVE HIM TRY TO GROW FACIAL HAIR!

his "stubble" looked like a balding Persian cat. It was disgusting to look at.

As far as what you're talking about, like the disappearing beard, the worst thing in the movie was Sue's ever changing hair color/style. As crappy as Alba's wig was in ROTSS, it was at least consistent from start to finish.

Sue went from having fluffy platinum blond in one scene to dirty blonde pulled back with faint highlights.

 

[sleekstereo]

Jon Schenpp also said that Fox fired the special effects guy without telling Trank OR the special effects guy who was originally responsible.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Ok. How does it compare to Trial of the Incredible Hulk where, like Miles Teller, Banner/Hulk inexplicably has facial hair in one scene and then suddenly not?

Let's just say I would rather watch X Men origins and Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen over this movie.

 

[Eddie]

Jon Schenpp also said that Fox fired the special effects guy without telling Trank OR the special effects guy who was originally responsible.

But I told a poster here ages ago the effects team was changed during production, and he "educated" me on why I was wrong.

Another rumor confirmed.

 

[Tony Stark]

Jon Schenpp also said that Fox fired the special effects guy without telling Trank OR the special effects guy who was originally responsible.

Anybody who worked on the FX on this film, needs to hide it from their resume if they ever want work again. I've seen better special effects on the SyFy channel.

 

[sleekstereo]

I'm starting think, what if Fox wanted this film to fail?

Honestly, so they could give it back to Marvel for X-Men TV rights?

 

[ShadowBoxer]

One stand out scene is when they first get their powers from the negative zone. It's done like horror movie in a way, with Reed looking in horror at Johhny severely burned ( almost dead looking) Ben covered in rocks and in pain screaming for help, Sue on the ground and fire everywhere.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm starting think, what if Fox wanted this film to fail?

Honestly, so they could give it back to Marvel for X-Men TV rights?

Remember The Producers?

Springtime for Hitler?

 

[Kanon]

I don't think Fox could have done such a fantastic job. This is a trainwreck for the ages. To everything we discussed during production, add to that one of the lowest RT scores for a CBM ever, and the director trashing the movie on social media, on opening day.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah that scene is fantastic, so is the following one.

 

[Tony Stark]

One stand out scene is when they first get their powers from the negative zone. It's done like horror movie in a way, with Reed looking in horror at Johhny severely burned ( almost dead looking) Ben covered in rocks and in pain screaming for help, Sue on the ground and fire everywhere.

OK, I'll give you that, but here's the problem. It's the bi-polar tone of this film. You can have the body horror scene if that's the way you want to go, but then what the heck is the science fair stuff doing in the film. It's so disjointed, that it doesn't know what kind of film it wants to be.

 

[jokesonm3]

Collider Movie Talk is up where they discuss who was responsible for what happen to the fantastic 4 poor film making

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNUrwtNH_aE[/YT]

 

[Tony Stark]

I think Jon is somewhat discounting the fact that Josh dug his own grave with his antics on set. If there's any truth to the fact that Josh was showing up on set loaded, then the studio had no choice but to step in. That certainly doesn't make Fox the good guys, who did this whole thing only for a rights grab.

 

[Perfect Cell]

I just got out of seeing this. It's so, so bad. I knew what I was getting into, going into it, but I didn't expect it be so boring. It was dull, lifeless, and nothing mattered. Nothing about this movie matters. It feels like a void where my time fell to die. It may be the worst movie I've paid to see since Pluto Nash.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

OK, I'll give you that, but here's the problem. It's the bi-polar tone of this film. You can have the body horror scene if that's the way you want to go, but then what the heck is the science fair stuff doing in the film. It's so disjointed, that it doesn't know what kind of film it wants to be.

Yea the tone is everywhere.

 

[Double B]

I think Jon is somewhat discounting the fact that Josh dug his own grave with his antics on set. If there's any truth to the fact that Josh was showing up on set loaded, then the studio had no choice but to step in. That certainly doesn't make Fox the good guys, who did this whole thing only for a rights grab.

This. If even a tiny proportion of what has been reported as happening on set is true, Fox had no choice.

 

[Link]

The tone is weird indeed. The soundtrack during the first scenes with young Reed and Ben was like something from a Narnia movie, the science and exploration stuff very Interstellar, and yet later we get blood and actually scary transformations. Johnny's burning "corpse" was creepy as hell. There were rather small children watching it with us and i wonder how creepy they must have thought the movie was heh.

The first hour would have been great if the movie was an hour longer. All that build-up for nothing. Slow beginning and super rushed ending, that's a mixture for a really bad movie.

 

[WilliamK99]

Can someone explain to me why Johnny treated Ben with respect all movie and then made a horrible sounding slam on him at end?

I understand that he does this all the time in the comics but you don't write it one way 95% of the movie and then go "Oh crap, he has to make a smart arse comment to him" at end.. It was cringe worthy and seemed out of place.

 

[Dasher10]

More information about the behind the scenes stuff from John Campea:

According to John, he has TWO sources who told him that Fox took over the film and at the end of the day, its Fox's fault, not Trank for the final product. Check it out below, they go through more details.

Also Fox removed THREE action sequences from the film.

https://youtu.be/QNUrwtNH_aE?t=1m47s

Wait, so Fox filmed additional action scenes in the reshoots, then removed them? So they brought the film over-budget just to remove the footage? That's insane.

Fox don't do this to the X-Men films, they didn't do this to Avatar and I doubt they'll do this to the AvP-verse. Despite greenlighting the film back in 2009, they clearly didn't do much if any pre-production. This is pure ineptitude.

 

[Dasher10]

Also, it looks both Tyrone Magnus and Comicbookgirl19 are both refusing to review this since they won't spend money on it. Like when prominent vlog reviews aren't watching your film because of terrible buzz, then it isn't worth seeing.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

My condolences to Fantastic Four fans. I am trying to recover from the awfulness of what I just saw.

Tell everyone what you saw--especially our friends and family members. Warn them to stay away. The only way this thing dies is if people skip it.

 

[sleekstereo]

I'm trying to figure out why I am only finding out about Constantin Films today and how they play into the FF rights. LOL

Why has this not been mentioned before!?! Haha

 

[Eddie]

Because at the end of the day Fox is all that matters. Constantin approved a short Silver Surfer fan film in the early 90s. That sort of thing stopped as soon as Fox gained control.

 

[Zantera]

So..

If we start with the positives, this movie definitely wasn't as bad as I expected. Still not great, but it could have potentially been a really good movie, but ended up being a 5 or 6 out of 10 at best. The cast was fun and good, I enjoyed a lot of the ideas.

If we talk about negatives, the movie had some problems (both big and small), but a lot of them can be traced back to the shockingly low running time. I mean.. 100 minutes? It definitely felt like 30 minutes were cut out and disappeared somewhere. I didn't mind the end battle as a set piece, but it was completely rushed and came out of nowhere, and in the final version it didn't really work.

SPOILERS

Why did they jump forward 1 year after the team got their powers? That's the stuff you really want to see the most, seeing them handle their powers and learning to use them.

Doom looks terrible and is basically given 0 personality or motivation. He's basically introduced 10 minutes before his ultimate demise.

Again, and I can't stress this enough.. the short running time really killed this movie. In 30 minutes we could have gotten more character depth, more motivation, more of everything but instead we got a hollow shell. Typically you have the heroes fight the bad guy twice, the first time they get beaten, second time they work together and win. This was one 5-10 minute fight and it was all over.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Where is the Guard? If anyone can argue for bad movies, it's him.