Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - Part 40

[Tony Stark]

As I said twice before,
The most telling thing is how none of the cast came to the support of Trank, while on the other hand they all defended Teller after the Esquire article.

I think certain users have some Trank blinders on.

Yep, you nailed that one on the head. It's especially telling in that MBJ didn't come to his defense and Trank is likely the main reason he was cast.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Guys, I've been thinking.

This may be one of the ultimate best examples of what happens when a production has bad karma. There was ridiculously copious amounts of negative energy around this production and that's why it's failing so terribly now. Consider the facts:

FOX had bad motives in making the movie in the first place--this was a cash grab. It's a documented fact that the executives hate the property but they hate Marvel Studios more. So this led to them to hiring a clearly emo unstable director to throw a film together. Under pressure, the director hired actors based on personal allegiances and favoritism instead of respecting the source material. After the meltdowns, FOX tried to get rid of the very Frankenstein they created. Frankenstein then goes to Twitter and decimates his makers.

And now the entire critics industry, general movie-going audiences and last--but most importantly of all--the fan community have united in their dismissal of the entire effort. This story just underscores how badly karma will f*** you up when you put all that bad energy out there in the universe. FOX thought they were going to hurt Marvel. All they ended up doing was hurting themselves.

Incredible.

 

[TheVileOne]

Are you guys all forgetting the fact that Chronicle writer Max Landis, the day it came out that Trank got fired from Star Wars tweeted "Karma #StarWars" or whatever?

That is the man who wrote Trank's first movie. I have no idea what their relationship or friendship is. They might not have ever really met or worked together at all. Sometimes a writer does a script and it's just handed off and the writer is never on set for filming. And that's it.

But apparently their relationship is frayed enough that he said it was karma when another man, a freaking colleague, got fired from a prime directing role.

 

[Farren]

Guys you know what? There was ridiculously copious amounts of bad karma around this production and that's why it's failing so terribly now. FOX had bad motives in making the movie in the first place.

I agree. The studio sets a lot of the tone on a production and if the studio isn't enthusiastic and is doing things on the cheap then that affects everyone involved, either directly because they take cues from the upper management or indirectly by having budgets cut or sequences slashed.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Ok, I now need an E! True Hollywood Story of this.

What happened behind the scenes has more plot and emotion than the actual film.

Joaquin Phoenix as Trank?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Are you guys all forgetting the fact that Chronicle writer Max Landis, the day it came out that Trank got fired from Star Wars tweeted "Karma #StarWars" or whatever?

That is the man who wrote Trank's first movie. I have no idea what their relationship or friendship is. They might not have ever really met or worked together at all. Sometimes a writer does a script and it's just handed off and the writer is never on set for filming. And that's it.

But apparently their relationship is frayed enough that he said it was karma when another man, a freaking colleague, got fired from a prime directing role.

He just came out and spoke about Trank, that they had a ton of freedom on Chronicle and that looking back 5 years later he realized that it was the exception and not the rule. He said that Trank expected too much and that he shouldn't blame Fox for something that was never gonna be his. Landis sounds like he has a pretty good work ethic and professionalism. Don't see why they didn't go with his pitch.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Ok, I now need an E! True Hollywood Story of this.

What happened behind the scenes has more plot and emotion than the actual film.

Joaquin Phoenix as Trank?

Josh Gad as Trank

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Miles teller for trank

 

[VictorDomashev]

NahJoaquin Phoenix as Trank?

Nah Samuel L. Jackson

 

[zlucamanz]

so does fantastic four fail to reborn? i change my mind from day one wait until wednesday for cheap ticket.

 

[TheVileOne]

He just came out and spoke about Trank, that they had a ton of freedom on Chronicle and that looking back 5 years later he realized that it was the exception and not the rule. He said that Trank expected too much and that he shouldn't blame Fox for something that was never gonna be his. Landis sounds like he has a pretty good work ethic and professionalism. Don't see why they didn't go with his pitch.

Landis seems to have a pretty well adjusted and realistic view of the business.

 

[Syncer]

So Ben's brother getting the line of "It's clobbering time"....makes me wonder if some of the creative crew were high at the time of writing this film

 

[VictorDomashev]

So what would you guys prefer ? A Documentary type thing like Superman Lives & Justice League Mortal might be getting ? Or a full on movie detailing everything ?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

So Ben's brother getting the line of "It's clobbering time"....makes me wonder if some of the creative crew were high at the time of writing this film

Maybe the scene where Reed, Johnny and Victor get drunk was based on their real life experience of writing the movie. Getting drunk and jumping into what's essentially a bad idea.

 

[VictorDomashev]

I can't wait for the How It Should Have Ended Video Of This & we see an entire group of heroes in the cafe bash the movie

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm not sure why they even deserve to go to Planet Zero anyway. Not to mention, they are not trained or prepared for it all. You would need data on the planet before just going there half-cocked. To even go outside in an environment they have no idea of. And Franklin Storm is all like, "yeah you can go." Umm no they can't. They aren't astronauts. Astronauts go through hellish training to prepare for space travel. Interdimensional travel to another planet?

 

[thorstone]

The first 60 minutes were good and then the next 30 minutes blew. It felt like a whole act of the movie was cut from the middle.

The movie is just going to make everyone who sees it think about how the next reboot should go.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So basically in a nutshell....

Ethan Hunt > The Fantastic Four.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I can't wait for the How It Should Have Ended Video Of This & we see an entire group of heroes in the cafe bash the movie

I hope they do the opposite with this. How It Should Have Been Made.

 

[TheSpectacular]

**** me, this movie was horrible

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I'm not sure why they even deserve to go to Planet Zero anyway. Not to mention, they are not trained or prepared for it all. You would need data on the planet before just going there half-cocked. To even go outside in an environment they have no idea of. And Franklin Storm is all like, "yeah you can go." Umm no they can't. They aren't astronauts. Astronauts go through hellish training to prepare for space travel. Interdimensional travel to another planet?

It's all a metaphor. The writers didn't deserve to write this. Fans were like "stahp" but Fox was like "yeah, you can do it". And so on a drunken rampage they wrote this movie. The Four represent themselves: introverted, awkward, geeky, against the government, lacking penises, all while holding up a "no girls allowed" sign (she got powers simply because of studio meddling ). And of course they had to give themselves powers because of their inferiority complex. Then like their true selves, they climax early.

 

[Zantera]

What did you think of the first X-Men movie, which was 104 minutes long?

It was a nice little film. Not as good as X2 or DoFP, but good on its own. Singer knows perfectly how to handle that franchise though, he always gives the exact right amount of screen time and character development to each character. DoFP was a good example of this.

 

[TalismanRing]

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/kate-maras-awful-fantastic-four-wig-a-tribute.html

And Now, a Tribute to Kate Mara’s Awful Wig in Fantastic Four

While this fake-hair snafu might sound like one of the film's many problems, I actually found it sort of endearing. This is an awfully quiet, airless movie, and after a few dour punch lines in the early going, there's little intentional entertainment to be had. Eventually, I began to regard Mara's Reshoots Wig as kind of a lifeline: Every time I found myself wondering why the characters never went outside or why Jamie Bell and Michael B. Jordan had virtually no lines in their big mainstream superhero movie, I could count on that Reshoots Wig to pop up somewhere and make me laugh. How blonde and shellacked is it? After the movie ended, in lieu of a post-credits tag featuring Nick Fury, I expected Megyn Kelly to show up and invite Sue to join Fox News.

 

[sleekstereo]

I want to see the original final battle.

Because I am convinced that the final battle in the final film was from the reshoot.

 

[TalismanRing]

I want to see the original final battle.

Because I am convinced that the final battle in the final film was from the reshoot.

More than 40% of the movie is re-shoots and yes the final battle was reportedly part of them.