Fantastic Four officially back Marvel?

[kaijunexus]

According to IGN UK, Marvel may have regained the rights to the Fantastic Four in return for allowing Fox to move ahead with their X-Men TV shows...

A new rumour is claiming the film rights to the Fantastic Four are back with Marvel, with the studio now planning a new film for 2020 that'll see the quartet folded into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Den of Geek claims the move was made as part of the deal that will see Fox allowed to create two X-Men TV shows - Hellfire and Legion. Reportedly, in exchange for allowing Fox the TV rights to the franchise they've long desired, Marvel wanted to get something in return. Apparently, that something was the Fantastic Four film rights.

What's interesting is the timing of the announcement - Marvel just announced it has three, untitled films set to hit screens in 2020. Supposedly, one of these is set to be a Fantastic Four film.

While the news isn't confirmed and so should definitely be taken with a pinch of salt, it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. Following the fantastic flop that occurred earlier this year, you can see why Fox may be keen to get this particular franchise off its hands, especially if it nets something it's been lusting after for years in return. As for Marvel, it's a chance to protect and expand its brand even further.

Just last month, however, writer and producer Simon Kinberg confirmed a Fantastic Four sequel is still in development. Back then, it didn't look like there were plans to collaborate with Marvel to help revive the franchise like Sony is doing with Spider-Man, as the producer denied knowledge of any such partnership.

As soon as we hear anything concrete we'll let you know. In the meantime, let us know in the comments whether this fills you with confidence about the future of the Fantastic Four, or if you're starting to get concerned about Marvel's ever-ballooning stable.

 

[Tony Stark]

There was another story already stating this was a false rumor.

However, I do believe they are still in talks, mainly over the X-men TV rights. Marvel doesn't care about the FF, they want the rights to the cosmic characters tied with the FF film rights.

As I stated on the FF forums, I do think that since Feige is not working under Perlmutter anymore that negotiations are probably proceeding, and that before the Spider-man deal was reached there were alot of false stories that probably had grains of truth to them.

However the idea that "the FF are back at Marvel" is pretty much false at this point.

 

[jokesonm3]

This better be real!

 

[NealKenneth]

Infinity War - Part 1: Silver Surfer and Galactus
Infinity War - Part 2: Doctor Doom

Get the rights sorted in time for this to happen!

 

[Napoleon]

Marvel has stated that they have contingency plans for if the they get the F4 or X-Men rights back, so they'd have no problem integrating them.

 

[ernesth100]

I got so hype when I saw this title.

 

[MbJ]

Someone jumped the gun with the title LOL.

 

[thanson]

The deal with Sony regarding Spiderman was denied too. Let's just say that things could be going on behind the scenes and just maybe, with some luck, the rights will eventually end up back at Marvel.

 

[Mike Murdock]

While I don't necessarily buy that a deal has been made, I agree that a denial proves nothing. This rumor is only going away if it's confirmed or if Fox starts production on another Fantastic Four movie.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

It's interesting since Marvel just announced three new films in 2020. I believe Guardians Of The Galaxy 3 is one of them. The other two could be anything. Black Panther 2? Doctor Strange 2?

If this does end up being true, then the MCU just got more interesting.

 

[ernesth100]

Fantastic Four Reboot
Spider-Man 2
New Hulk Solo


Thats what I want.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

count on Dr Strange 2 being one of those 2020 movies. the first one will be one of the best CBM ever produced, no way they are waiting longer than 4 years to produce a sequel

 

[Eddie]

I actually still think future Spider-Man films will be "bonus" fourth films, as they're not Disney and they likely wouldn't be the ones dating them.

I do think Strange 2 is probably penciled in for 2020, as well.

 

[spider-neil]

Marvel are mad if they green light the Fox TV shows without getting something in return. Strike while the iron is hot, attack from a position of strength, etc etc.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

if this isn't true then can a mod please lock it up

 

[CaptainWagner]

I'd say 2020 will be: Spider-man 2, Dr. Strange 2, and Fantastic Four. That would be a heck of a year for Marvel Studios, espically if the first Strange is as good as it should be.

As for the rumor and denial here's how I view it: We know Fox is "negotiating" for the rights to make live-action TV shows. A month or so later, Marvel announces three mystery dates for 2020 that should be "exciting. Just a few days later, Fox announces they are proceeding with 2 X-Men TV series. A rumor is spread claiming the F4 rights were traded. Rumor is denied in virtually the exact ways the SPidey rumor was, and articles claiming info to the contrary of the rumor are full of factual errors. For me, it all adds up to a deal being made, but kept under wraps until the Fant4stic DVD sales are out.

 

[third3ye]

Can't say that Fox gave back the FF rights to Marvel but something was more than likely exchanged in order for Fox to get Marvel's ok for those 2 shows. Fox may have the X-Men TV rights, but as far as I understand it, they still need Marvel's approval for any TV show; it's not a unilateral production right.

 

[TheVileOne]

Maybe Marvel gets a sweet co-production deal out of it, points etc. Maybe they get to control all merchandising, ancillary rights, et al. That's me just spitballing ways the deal could've been worth their while outside of a film rights trade.

Also, we know X-Men isn't going back to Disney/Marvel fore the foreseeable future. It's probably beneficial for the TV divisions to make this deal at the moment. We'll see how it pans out.

I think the reason the media got too ahead of themselves is that when they first heard that Marvel was negotiating with FOX for the X-Men TV shows, they assumed that Fantastic Four was a bargaining chip. That news came out just after FF bombed.

Right now, Marvel fans want this sort of movie/tv manifest destiny. Of all the characters returning to Marvel. Happened with Punisher and Daredevil. Then Ghost Rider. SORT OF Spider-Man. Now FF seems like the next likely candidate.

Technically, Iron Man was the first. You will all remember. An Iron Man movie was first announced like 02-03 by NEW LINE CINEMA. A lot of development work but no results. The rights reverted to Marvel and they decided to make the movies themselves. The rest as they say is history.

 

[spider-neil]

Fox are being stubborn over the Fantastic Four rights probably because of the supporting characters and villains like Silver Surfer and Doctor Doom.
Marvel aren't going to get a better chance and shouldn't give over the TV rights without something major in return. Sure, Fox could offer Marvel a big cheque but the rights for Fantastic Four and the supporting characters is far better.

 

[Mike5575]

I'd say 2020 will be: Spider-man 2, Dr. Strange 2, and Fantastic Four. That would be a heck of a year for Marvel Studios, espically if the first Strange is as good as it should be.

As for the rumor and denial here's how I view it: We know Fox is "negotiating" for the rights to make live-action TV shows. A month or so later, Marvel announces three mystery dates for 2020 that should be "exciting. Just a few days later, Fox announces they are proceeding with 2 X-Men TV series. A rumor is spread claiming the F4 rights were traded. Rumor is denied in virtually the exact ways the SPidey rumor was, and articles claiming info to the contrary of the rumor are full of factual errors. For me, it all adds up to a deal being made, but kept under wraps until the Fant4stic DVD sales are out.

So, because a rumor became true, this one must be true as well? For the 2020 films, I would replace F4 with GOTG3. If the recent phase 3 reshuffling taught us anything, it's that Marvel will always choose sequels over a new or untested product. Not to mention, the F4 movies were never good and never made any money. This may change if Marvel gets the rights back and makes a F4 movie, but I doubt the public's perception on the F4 will change that drastically. I'm afraid Fox has ruined the F4 for Marvel.

 

[spider-neil]

So, because a rumor became true, this one must be true as well? For the 2020 films, I would replace F4 with GOTG3. If the recent phase 3 reshuffling taught us anything, it's that Marvel will always choose sequels over a new or untested product. Not to mention, the F4 movies were never good and never made any money. This may change if Marvel gets the rights back and makes a F4 movie, but I doubt the public's perception on the F4 will change that drastically. I'm afraid Fox has ruined the F4 for Marvel.

I think it's more a case if the rights for FF are secured Marvel will put FF villains in Marvel movies set in space and on Earth.

Earth
Doctor Doom
Mole Man
Puppet Master
Kang the Conqueror (first appearance Rama Tut in FF)
Diablo
Red Ghost and Space Apes

Space
Annillus
Blastter
Galactus
Silver Surfer
Terrax the Tamer
Ego the Living Planet

 

[CaptainWagner]

So, because a rumor became true, this one must be true as well?

Did you even read my post?

For the 2020 films, I would replace F4 with GOTG3. If the recent phase 3 reshuffling taught us anything, it's that Marvel will always choose sequels over a new or untested product. Not to mention, the F4 movies were never good and never made any money. This may change if Marvel gets the rights back and makes a F4 movie, but I doubt the public's perception on the F4 will change that drastically. I'm afraid Fox has ruined the F4 for Marvel.

But in my proposed schedule, there are already two sequels that year. And it will have been 5 years since Fant4stic, plenty of time for people top forget a forgettable movie. The Marvel hype machine could do wonders with the return of their first family, especially if they use the 60s "lost in time and space" concept.

 

[spider-neil]

If Marvel were to get the rights for the Fantastic Four back I would introduce Doctor Doom in another Marvel movie and then when you get around to making the FF you don't bog the movie down with a Dr. Doom origin.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The only thing I have against that is Dr. Doom exists to hate on Reed Richards. Doom without Mr. Fantastic doesn't make much sense.

 

[The_Manhunter]

I'd say 2020 will be: Spider-man 2, Dr. Strange 2, and Fantastic Four. That would be a heck of a year for Marvel Studios, espically if the first Strange is as good as it should be.

As for the rumor and denial here's how I view it: We know Fox is "negotiating" for the rights to make live-action TV shows. A month or so later, Marvel announces three mystery dates for 2020 that should be "exciting. Just a few days later, Fox announces they are proceeding with 2 X-Men TV series. A rumor is spread claiming the F4 rights were traded. Rumor is denied in virtually the exact ways the SPidey rumor was, and articles claiming info to the contrary of the rumor are full of factual errors. For me, it all adds up to a deal being made, but kept under wraps until the Fant4stic DVD sales are out.

Makes sense to me. I just think 2020 will have GOTG 3 (3 years between GOTGs like between GOTG 1 and 2) and Strange 2 will be out in 2021. But that's 5 years between Strange movies. Hmmm...