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I have to agree with DACrowe in that Arkham Scarecrow is easily the best version of the character.
David Warner's version. I still have trouble picturing Ra's Al Ghul without that voice. He is one of two major characters I think was done better in the DCAU than the TDKT. The other one is Talia.
I would say that Nolan/Bale's and Dini/Timm/Conroy's visions of Batman are so different that both perfectly nail what they are going for....
With that said I do prefer the Conroy/TAS Batman. Admittedly though, I prefer the less predictably depressing epilogue to Bruce Wayne's life in TDKR than the final in continuity episode of JLU (set as an epilogue to Batman Beyond, which makes that fun series suddenly very dreary).
For characters, I think the Nolanverse did as well or better:
Scarecrow
Joker (equal and ver different)
Two-Face
Bane
Catwoman
Jim Gordon
Alfred
Lucius Fox
But I prefer TAS' take on
Batman
Ra's Al Ghul
Talia Al Ghul
Robin
For whatever it is worth.
Oh yeah, what about Batman? aren't you forgetting the DCAU version of him?
Nope. I think they were close to a push.
What do you mean?
I like Arkhamverse Catwoman a lot more than Nolanverse. The look is amazing it's what I see as Catwoman and the story is much better and I think Paul Dini did a great job on that part.
Nope. I think they were close to a push.
She was useless until the very end of the original run of BTAS, at which point they finally gave her her claws back but she doesn't do much after that. The Nolan version was better. The Burton version was better. The Arkham version was better. Even the Julie Newmar version might have been better. Which is a real shame because I really liked the performance by Adrienne Barbeau.
The Nolan version was better. The Burton version was better. The Arkham version was better. Even the Julie Newmar version might have been better. Which is a real shame because I really liked the performance by Adrienne Barbeau.
I feel that if they had given R'as his signature cape and Lazarus Pit in BB, the film's RaG could have been the definitive one. But, Nolan's penchance for secularizing the material meant there was no way in hell they were going to appear in the films. Thus, my favorite is a tie between it and the Animated series, where the design and performance were perfect, but the scale of the League was missing; it was just R'as, Talia, and Bobo (or whatever the hell the muscle's name was.)
and Bobo (or whatever the hell the muscle's name was.)
Scarecrow was always something of a joke in the DCAU. Never really cared for that character. They also had trouble keeping him consistent from one appearance to the next.
He was someone the League could keep a leash on. Scarecrow was, thematically, meant to be an anti-climax. That's why he was played up as big and menacing. He did get the jump on Bats, though.
I liked BB Ra's. The vigilante-ninja master angle was more interesting than the eco terrorist of the comics and cartoon.
That take on Ra's might work well with Poison Ivy. They should work with that angle if they decide to adapt Ra's in the upcoming Batman film series. I really love what Nolan did, but I'd hate for Ra's, and any of the characters, in the new films to be virtually identical to what's come before.
Coming back to this thread (and after rewatching a few TAS episodes) I strongly disagree. How could you forget "Over the Edge" where he gave Babs the darkest yet most epic dream sequence in the history of dream sequences?! Or "Never Fear", which now that I think about it was eerily similar to Batman Begins with the releasing fear/anti fear gas via runaway train scheme, except he was the one doing it instead of Ra's, which is even more awesome because he's not being controlled by someone else. And as for being "something of a joke", what about Nolan's scarecrow who got owned by Rachel and ran off crying like a baby?! One of Batman's greatest villains - owned by a woman with a taser?! BTAS never had a scene in which Scarecrow was owned so humiliatingly as that scene. And he was useless in TDKR
He was really good in Over the Edge. I do admit that.
However, there were also episodes like Lock-Up where he is turned into an ineffectual joke villain lumped in with the likes of Harley Quinn and The Ventriloquist and is scared to death of a prison guard.