F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - Part 12

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This seems to have slipped under the wire yesterday. So its not just trans people under fire from the Trump WH yesterday. Apparently gay people in general as well. I'm sensing a theme.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...ederal_law_doesn_t_protect_gay_employees.html

Trump Administration Argues Federal Civil Rights Law Does Not Protect Gay Employees

On Wednesday, the Department of Justice filed an amicus brief in the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals arguing that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 does not prohibit discrimination against gay and bisexual employees. The DOJ’s brief was not solicited by the court or any party to the case. Rather, in an unusual move, the Trump administration elected to weigh in with an aggressively anti-gay stance, arguing that gay Americans have no protection against workplace discrimination under federal law. Its decision is unsurprising in light of Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ vigorous opposition to LGBTQ rights.



Edit -Yeah, Huffington post just mentioned it 6 hours ago. So the trans ban, and gay civil rights argument on the same day.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5979422de4b02a4ebb72e45d/amp
 
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I believe so, yes. The military is not a social experiment. The military exists to protect this country. The mission comes first. Any obstacle that compromises or limits the military's capacity to achieving that goal should be removed. Trump has apparently talked to Mattis about this and came to that conclusion. The question is what to do about the 15,000 service members? Maybe give them a waiver?
So... What would you say about this lady?

www.businessinsider.com/kristin-beck-trump-transgender-ban-2017-7
 
How do you square "highly qualified" with the higher suicide rates associated with gender dysphoria?

Higher suicide rates compared to what? Normal military suicide rates? What does that have to do with anything?
 
So, are Transgender people in America made out of Fairy dust that makes it unable for them to shoot a gun, drive a tank, fly a jet?

Does Military equipment in America only work when you program it for a specific gender?

Are a couple of few millions of dollars a year, more of a burden than...i dont know...having to pay millions each week so a slimy asshat can walk across a golf course?
 
I heard it laid out nicely earlier. Republicans accepted Trump questioning McCain's heroism. Republicans accepted Trump insulting Rubio, and Jeb (and their spouses). Republicans accepted Trump admitting to sexual assault on tape. They accepted the Russia stuff, Trump leading birtherism, his racial, and sexist comments. Where republicans finally drew the line is him targeting a fellow republican in Sessions.

It's the same with Trump supporters. They accept his disparaging comments towards black people, mexicans, women, democrats, judges, the media, poor people. Fine, those are words.Horrible words, but just words. Now however, he's banning people of a different religion, and color from entering the country. He's targeting Mexicans, and immigrants. Now he's targeting the LBGTQ community. At what point, what demographic does he have to target, to get Trump supporters to draw the line?

You expect them to care about Muslims, Mexicans, or LGBT?
 
Last I checked, thinking you are black, doesn't make you black. You're talking about a segment of the population that is confused about their gender identity.

That is a very uninformed comparison.
 
How do you square "highly qualified" with the higher suicide rates associated with gender dysphoria?
The suicide rate is higher in male than female.
So all male should be ban from the army right ? /s :o

And also "According to the CDC, as of 2013 the suicide rates of Whites and American Indians are more than twice the rates of African Americans and Hispanics."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide#United_States

So whites and American Indians also should be ban ? /s :o

Or maybe we should juge people based on their individual skills and not based on discrimination.
 
You expect them to care about Muslims, Mexicans, or LGBT?

Not really, but it's a slippery slope. They may not care about them, but every time a minority takes a step back in Trump's America, he's moves on to the next. Trump may never go after white males specifically, but he can go after poor, or middle class people. He can indirectly go after white women by walking back some women's rights in general.

What's the saying?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.

I honestly don't think Trump has loyalty to anyone, let alone his base. They probably don't care, but if they continue to stand by watching Trump strip rights, no ones going to help them when he comes for them.
 
Can we talk about how lucky Cheetoh is to have been handed the economy and state of affairs he has? Unemployment is steady and in low single digits. No major wars, and ISIS is on the decline. There's still Syria and North Korea, which is a concern.

But the fact that he has so much time to watch cable news and tweet all morning and night says that he isn't involved in any major decision making process.

None of that fits his narrative that America is going down the drain thanks to everyone who isn't straight, white, rich and Christian.

According to Trump -

The rest of the world hates the U.S. and wants the U.S to fail.

Bands of roaming Mexicans are stealing/raping everything in sight.

Every Muslim in America or coming to America is a Islamic terrorist.

Middle Class African Americans do not exist. Trump is the only one that can save African Americans from poverty.

Women are only worth while if they are attractive and put out.

Russia is perfectly benign and isn't try to f*** Western countries contrary to what every intelligence agency and government in the western world is saying.

Says Medical insurance for everyone except he supports health care bills that will strip more of the most vulnerable of coverage
 
This seems to have slipped under the wire yesterday. So its not just trans people under fire from the Trump WH yesterday. Apparently gay people in general as well. I'm sensing a theme.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...ederal_law_doesn_t_protect_gay_employees.html





Edit -Yeah, Huffington post just mentioned it 6 hours ago. So the trans ban, and gay civil rights argument on the same day.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5979422de4b02a4ebb72e45d/amp


Sessions does have his own evil agenda.
 
I believe so, yes. The military is not a social experiment. The military exists to protect this country. The mission comes first. Any obstacle that compromises or limits the military's capacity to achieving that goal should be removed. Trump has apparently talked to Mattis about this and came to that conclusion. The question is what to do about the 15,000 service members? Maybe give them a waiver?

Great. Now explain to this former service member how being transgender does this? :confused:

FYI when we're out in the field, who you like to have sex with and which bathroom you use typically doesn't come up. I know Trump isn't aware of this because he's a giant rich ***** who deferred out of serving due to some made-up medical condition.


Sessions does have his own evil agenda.

Like re-litigating the previously so successful "War on Drugs." Sessions is basically a McCarthy-era politician who became frozen in ice Captian America style, and was just thawed out to become AG. He's literally the "Man Out of Time"
 
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Trump's dinner guests last night? Scaramucci, and Hannity. Not big news or anything. It just speaks to who Trump surrounds himself in his off time. Scaramucci makes sense as they work together. Sean Hannity though? Insults CNN, invites Hannity to dinner.
 
I believe so, yes. The military is not a social experiment. The military exists to protect this country. The mission comes first. Any obstacle that compromises or limits the military's capacity to achieving that goal should be removed. Trump has apparently talked to Mattis about this and came to that conclusion. The question is what to do about the 15,000 service members? Maybe give them a waiver?

The persistent sexual assault culture in the military is probably a more important and common sense issue to address than demonizing transgenders.
 
Sessions does have his own evil agenda.

Wasn't the idea of sexual orientation being a protected class part of the decision to allow same-sex marriage? If they toss that, then don't they have a backdoor way of saying same-sex marriage is no longer allowed under the constitution?
 
I believe so, yes. The military is not a social experiment. The military exists to protect this country. The mission comes first. Any obstacle that compromises or limits the military's capacity to achieving that goal should be removed. Trump has apparently talked to Mattis about this and came to that conclusion. The question is what to do about the 15,000 service members? Maybe give them a waiver?

The military is a segment of the American government which has some of the most strict anti-discrimination policies on the books. You know, because as the government they are supposed to be examples to those they govern. No way does this not get overturned for discrimination by SCOTUS.

How do you square "highly qualified" with the higher suicide rates associated with gender dysphoria?

Oh are we bringing up high suicide rates? Like those our veterans have an extremely high and disproportionate rate of compared to the civilian population? Weird, it's almost like being deployed in a war zone is tough on the mind or something...
 
Surely this whole thing should definitely not apply to those who have already been serving in the military for years (regardless of the rest of the debate).
 
A lot of the arguments I've heard in support of Trump's decision might've made more sense if we hadn't already allowed openly transgender troops to serve.
 
this is just another insturce where trump tried to claim he would be different than typical republican and he clearly isn't.
 
https://twitter.com/lauferlaw/status/890312455225839619

Bill Browder's prepared statement to the senate judiciary Committe. Everyone should read this. This is powerful. If nothing happens to Trump, it will be a sad day for "democracy".

Anyone who doesn't think Trump is a Russian stooge / potential spy at this point, is only kidding / deluding themselves. I hope those sanctions are put in place more then ever, and Putin's empire collapses. He is THE enemy of the world.
 
Oh are we bringing up high suicide rates? Like those our veterans have an extremely high and disproportionate rate of compared to the civilian population? Weird, it's almost like being deployed in a war zone is tough on the mind or something...
My thoughts exactly. This is why a good friend of mine, a straight white man FYI, was sent home from Afghanistan on suicide watch. Why he and his wife now sport semicolon tattoos.
 
Biology is not bigotry. Your personal attack is noted and was reported. Leftists should learn to control their emotions.
You're using pseudo-biology for bigotry, without understanding the science and social theory and research on being transgender. You should inform yourself before speaking further on the subject or else you're going to keep coming across as ignorant.
 
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Lisa Murkowski is one of the republican senators who voted against the first healthcare discussion vote. Reports said Trump was ticked, and called her to threaten less funds to her state for not towing the line. She confirms that Trump did indeed call her, but paused, and said she didn't feel threatened, but that Trump was angry. She didn't deny he threatened punishment for her state though.

Trump's approach to leadership. Do as I say, or I will punish your entire state...
 
Showtime orders new animated series centered on Trump from Stephen Colbert

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The satirical half-hour series will star two-dimensional avatars of President Donald Trump along with members of the most powerful family in the world. Set to premiere on SHOWTIME this fall, the fresh, cutting-edge comedy will present the truish adventures of Trump’s confidants and bon vivants – family, top associates, heads of government, golf pros and anyone else straying into his orbit – intrepidly exploring their histories and their psyches, revealing insights into what makes them so definitively Trumpian. It’s a workplace comedy where the office happens to be oval; it’s a character study in search of character, as seen through the eyes of an imaginary documentary crew.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sho...es-centered-on-trump-from-stephen-colbert-237


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