FF Official Rating

[Visionary]

Just what every comic book movie needs, gratuitous sex and violence to appease those who cannot handle plot or character development.

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There's plenty of great movies that have good character development and a damn good story, with an R-rating.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah cause i'm sure so many people wanna hear the thing say "It's clobbering time B!tches"

Or see the Human Torch roast someone and you see there flesh being burnt off.

That would be the nail in the coffin for comic book movies as we know it.

Or show Mr fantastic being fantastic to Sue.

 

[TheShadowCat]

I think the quality of all comic book movies would increase with an R-rating, for more intense, bloody, and brutal fight scenes. To allow cursing where it need be, not everyone in New York is a saint. To not cater so much in favor of kids, even though they love R-rated movies. Also, to say screw you to Soccer moms. I can always feel movie execs. breathing down the back of PG-13 films saying..."we can't do this and we can't do that...we have toys to sell you know and about those bastard children?"

Have you read some of the comics these movies are based on? In the case of Sin City or V for Vendetta, I can see them going R, but not for F4 or Spider-man or Superman or Batman. That would be getting too far from character and sorce material.

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[TheShadowCat]

There's plenty of great movies that have good character development and a damn good story, with an R-rating.

For comics that are already violent with swearing and nudity, that's fine. But not for the comics that are being published knowing that kids are going to be reading them too.

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[The Apatow Crew]

See now the Punisher it's Rated R for a reason. It has plenty of Blood and Violence and swearing.

 

[Visionary]

Have you read some of the comics these movies are based on? In the case of Sin City or V for Vendetta, I can see them going R, but not for F4 or Spider-man or Superman or Batman. That would be getting too far from character and sorce material.

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Not really.

I've read all of those comics, but the comics will most of the time stop short of brutal and blood fight scenes, as to not offend Soccer Moms, who's kids may get their hands on them. I mean, if Batman gets punched in the face by Bane or killer Croc, do you not think he's going to bleed like a river. How about Spider-Man getting thrown through a window, it's bloody time. Do really think New Yorkers are saints and don't curse?

I would drop a few "OH HIT" if I saw Silver Surfer and The Torch flying by me. Especially if I saw Galactus walking by...actually that would get a few F-bombs. It adds to the intensity, because you know that's what a person would say.

 

[Visionary]

For comics that are already violent with swearing and nudity, that's fine. But not for the comics that are being published knowing that kids are going to be reading them too.

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I hate kids.

And there's no nudity in The Passion of the Christ, or the first Matrix, or Predator. An R-rating doesn't mean you have to put nudity or sex in the film.

 

[TheShadowCat]

I hate kids.

Hopefully this means you don't have any and are not planning on ever having any. The world thanks you.

We're talking comic books and movies, two things that don't deal with reality very well. If you want realistic blood and guts, go watch the news.

My husband is from NY, so I've had the dubious joy of going there once every couple of years, so I'm perfectly aware that New Yorkers aren't saints, but they aren't a bunch of thugs either.

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[RedIsNotBlue]

I think the quality of all comic book movies would increase with an R-rating, for more intense, bloody, and brutal fight scenes. To allow cursing where it need be, not everyone in New York is a saint. To not cater so much in favor of kids, even though they love R-rated movies. Also, to say screw you to Soccer moms. I can always feel movie execs. breathing down the back of PG-13 films saying..."we can't do this and we can't do that...we have toys to sell you know and about those bastard children?"

Well I don't think comic book films need to have an R rating just that people need to stop being so sensitive. Kids hear or say **** on a daily basis and a movie gets an R rating if it uses it more than once.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Well I don't think comic book films need to have an R rating just that people need to stop being so sensitive. Kids hear or say **** on a daily basis and a movie gets an R rating if it uses it more than once.

Thats funny. i saw elizabethtown and they said the F word twice and its rated PG-13.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Thats funny. i saw elizabethtown and they said the F word twice and its rated PG-13.

Probably got away with it because of context or something. Or the old fashioned way pay off someone. And I doubt kids were lining up to see Elizabethtown in the first place...bwaha.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Probably got away with it because of context or something. Or the old fashioned way pay off someone. And I doubt kids were lining up to see Elizabethtown in the first place...bwaha.

Yeah your right about the last part.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Or the fact that it had so much A list power attached to it they could pretty much do anything they wanted. Wait...why the **** am I arguing ****ty movies I don't even want to watch again with you?

 

[Visionary]

Hopefully this means you don't have any and are not planning on ever having any. The world thanks you.

Damn, that's pretty cold. Not quite R-rated, but I like your style.

We're talking comic books and movies, two things that don't deal with reality very well. If you want realistic blood and guts, go watch the news.

My husband is from NY, so I've had the dubious joy of going there once every couple of years, so I'm perfectly aware that New Yorkers aren't saints, but they aren't a bunch of thugs either.

>^^<

I never said I wanted a reality based comic book movie, just an R-rating to raise the intensity level 10 notches, that sometimes seems lost because of the selling of Happy Meals.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I never said I wanted a reality based comic book movie, just an R-rating to raise the intensity level 10 notches, that sometimes seems lost because of the selling of Happy Meals.

Welcome to Hollywood mutha ****a. Money first, quality if theres time.

 

[TheShadowCat]

Damn, that's pretty cold. Not quite R-rated, but I like your style.


I never said I wanted a reality based comic book movie, just an R-rating to raise the intensity level 10 notches, that sometimes seems lost because of the selling of Happy Meals.

Did it ever occur to you that not everyone wants to see lots of blood? I saw Sin City and I don't ever want to see it again because of the blood and graphic violence even though the story line and the cinamatography were excellent.

There's also the little matter that movie studios are trying to make money, not appease the blood thirsty crowd out there, no matter how loud they howl. A PG-13 rating means more butts in the seats and more money for the studio. R means fewer warm bodies wandering in to the theater. You do the math because they sure as hell are.

>^^<

 

[Visionary]

I think they'd make more with an R-rating. And the movie doesn't have to be a slasher film, gripe sake, have you ever watched Terminator 2?

 

[TheShadowCat]

I think they'd make more with an R-rating. And the movie doesn't have to be a slasher film, gripe sake, have you ever watched Terminator 2?

I've seen plenty of R rated films, but it doesn't change the fact that putting a higher rating on a movie cuts down on the number of people who are going to see it.

Try on this scenario:

A group of high school students decide to hang out at the mall after school one day. They decide to go see a movie. Now none of them are over the age of 17 so when they pick out a movie are they going to go to A) the PG-13 rated movie with lots of action, plenty of things blowing up and almost no gore or B) the R rated movie that a movie theater can get into a boat load of trouble for letting them see. That's right, they're going to see the PG-13 because they don't have a choice. That's why movies like this are rated PG-13, because they want bored teenagers filling those seats.

>^^<

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I dont see a way it wouldnt be pg13.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I dont see a way it wouldnt be pg13.

Yeah i know. He's just looking to put stuff in a movie thts not really needed.

 

[Visionary]

I've seen plenty of R rated films, but it doesn't change the fact that putting a higher rating on a movie cuts down on the number of people who are going to see it.

Try on this scenario:

A group of high school students decide to hang out at the mall after school one day. They decide to go see a movie. Now none of them are over the age of 17 so when they pick out a movie are they going to go to A) the PG-13 rated movie with lots of action, plenty of things blowing up and almost no gore or B) the R rated movie that a movie theater can get into a boat load of trouble for letting them see. That's right, they're going to see the PG-13 because they don't have a choice. That's why movies like this are rated PG-13, because they want bored teenagers filling those seats.

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Sorry pal, but that scenario doesn't work in the real world.

If a kid want to see an R-rated movie--his big brother, friend, cousin, sister will take him/her. Why do you think T2, Gladiator, The Passion of the Christ, SAW movies, Matrix Reloaded, etc., are so successful, kids love seeing these films, and have no problem getting into theaters to do so.

 

[kamaldhamal2007]

I hate kids.

And there's no nudity in The Passion of the Christ, or the first Matrix, or Predator. An R-rating doesn't mean you have to put nudity or sex in the film.

It seems like you don't have what it takes to have kids

so u hate them

 

[TheShadowCat]

Sorry pal, but that scenario doesn't work in the real world.

If a kid want to see an R-rated movie--his big brother, friend, cousin, sister will take him/her. Why do you think T2, Gladiator, The Passion of the Christ, SAW movies, Matrix Reloaded, etc., are so successful, kids love seeing these films, and have no problem getting into theaters to do so.

You know, someday you should have that cranial-rectal inversion you have looked at. That is exactly how the real world works. Studios are counting on those kids to go watch the PG-13 movies. Yes, some of them will eventually sneak into the R rated movie, but they're going to have to wait until their friend/sibling/cousin/complete stranger has time to take them in. The older people in their lives tend to be busy with their own lives with things like jobs, school, girl/boyfriends...you getting the picture here? A PG-13 rating means more people can see the movie and means more money. Still don't believe me? Try this on for size.

V for Vendetta, rated R for strong violence and some language, made $132,511,035 worldwide.

Sin City, rated R for sustained strong stylized violence, nudity and sexual content including dialogue, made $158,733,820 worldwide.

Fantastic Four, rated PG-13 for sequences of intense action, and some suggestive content, made $330,120,875 worldwide.

X-Men, X-Men United and X-Men: The Last Stand, all rated PG-13 for sci-fi action/violence, some sexuality and brief language, made respectively $296,250,053, $407,557,613 and $458,753,312 worldwide.

So why did Fantastic Four and the X-Men movies do so much better than V for Vendetta and Sin City? Because they had the lower rating which meant people were actually taking their kids as well as the bored teenagers with money to burn. From a fanancial point of view, it makes a lot more sense to go with the lower rating.

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