Final Answer! SNAKE vs SAM FISHER!

[Fenrir]

Snake is now weak, old, tired and going to be dead after MGS4, while Fisher has never looked better.

 

[Avalanche]

^

This is Metal Gear Solid we're talking about. You can't bank on anything. For all we know he'll be back stronger than ever by the end of MGS4.

 

[Fenrir]

Snake is so dead. Kojima will kill him off simply so that he can wash his hands clean off the franchise. He had no interest in doing this one and is back only because he was coaxed into it by death threats. And because of that, I get the feeling there isn't a chance in hell MGS4 can equal the greatness of the first (and best one) in the series. What it WILL do, is simply provide an appropriate closure to the whole "Snake" saga.

 

[Fenrir]

Oh and if Snake DOES come back "stronger than ever" after looking so pitiful in MGS4, then the Metal Gear franchise is officially ******ed.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Snake is so dead. Kojima will kill him off simply so that he can wash his hands clean off the franchise. He had no interest in doing this one and is back only because he was coaxed into it by death threats. And because of that, I get the feeling there isn't a chance in hell MGS4 can equal the greatness of the first (and best one) in the series. What it WILL do, is simply provide an appropriate closure to the whole "Snake" saga.

In my opinion, Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best one. Though I have to agree with you that I too think that Snake is going to bite it in Metal Gear Solid 4 (making the player pull the trigger too). Though I think that this one will be the best one, or else people are going to demand that Kojima to make another one (an interquel perhaps)

 

[Fenrir]

Though I think that this one will be the best one, or else people are going to demand that Kojima to make another one (an interquel perhaps)

Or, perhaps MGS4 is going to so much it'll kill all interest in the franchise for good. I can almost picture Kojima laughing maniacally now "there ya go suckers, that's what you get for threatening ME!".

 

[Zenien]

The only territory where Metal Gear Solid 3 showed a decline in sales was America (1 some million versus 2 some million for MGS2) and it came out at the same time as GTA SA and Halo 2.

Snake is so dead. Kojima will kill him off simply so that he can wash his hands clean off the franchise. He had no interest in doing this one and is back only because he was coaxed into it by death threats.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Anyway, back in reality, Kojima said that every game is going to be his last Metal Gear game because he has some other ideas for games he wants to do, but he can never find a suitable replacement to helm the series so he ends up being drawn back into it each and every time and enjoying the creative process of workign on a new MG game.

He did say he has a Love/Hate relationship because he love Metal Gear, working on the games, and the franchise, but he's tied down to it. Though 4 will be the last game he is actively involved in he will stay on as producer of the series for any new games and help with the story, but that he has a lot of ideas he wants to make into games before he dies, not just making 29 entries of Metal Gear.

He never said the few and far between death threats were the reason he started working on 4, in fact he says he and his team laugh about them, at the time they were like "whoa" but the work on MGS4 had already begun with Kojima in the place he's been in all during its development.

And because of that, I get the feeling there isn't a chance in hell MGS4 can equal the greatness of the first (and best one) in the series. What it WILL do, is simply provide an appropriate closure to the whole "Snake" saga.

Still, even if no game touches the initial greatness of MGS1, MGS3 was probably one of the ebst games of last gen period, and MGS4 will be a AAA game as well, so oh well.

Metal Gear Portable Ops is still schedules for "Winter 2006" according to the new trailer, I can't wait for it... it's going to be sooooo good.

 

[XwolverineX]

I love Zenien, I love Zenien. Never leave again, Zenien.

 

[DACMAN]

i thought we already settled that snake rapes fisher.

it only makes sense mgs rapes splinter cell.

Actually, no.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244419

Snake is a *****. And needs a hair cut.

 

[Imagination_13]

I love Zenien, I love Zenien. Never leave again, Zenien.

Gangstahs plz, you were like, "You suck zenien!"

 

[DACMAN]

The only territory where Metal Gear Solid 3 showed a decline in sales was America (1 some million versus 2 some million for MGS2) and it came out at the same time as GTA SA and Halo 2.

We've established that Halo owned MGS in sales.

He never said the few and far between death threats were the reason he started working on 4,

And that's why MGS fans are morons.

 

[Zenien]

1. That has nothing to do with the conversation.

2. When you get a large enough sample of people it's Inevitable that you'll get fans within that group who are morons, take a look at yourself for instance...

 

[AgentDenton]

I kind of randomly jump between loving metal gear games and thinking they're trash, so I'll probably just avoid commenting on their quality for now, unless someone says something incredibly stupid. As far as characters go though, Sam is much better. He'd win in a fight, he doesn't have a stupid hair cut, or a laugh out loud back story that reads like a 3rd grader's fan fiction, and even though he's kind of old, he doesn't look that old, and still looks like he could get the job done. Snake meanwhile looks like he spends his afternoons in the park feeding stale bread to pigeons.

 

[DACMAN]

Aw snap.

 

[DACMAN]

1. That has nothing to do with the conversation.

2. When you get a large enough sample of people it's Inevitable that you'll get fans within that group who are morons, take a look at yourself for instance...

1. Then why did YOU bring it up?

2. Grow up. This is the only time I've heard of fans sending death threats to the creators of their favorite games.

 

[Zenien]

1. I brought up Halo 2 and GTA because they were both released durring the same time and killed sales of other franchises released during that same period. Developers nicknamed it Massacer Christmas or some such. Pointing out that GTA and Halo sell more the MGS just so you can say 'haha' is like, not cool.

 

[DACMAN]

You said it not me. I did say "hah" about it though.

 

[hey yo its sean]

So... Yeah, Snake is much better.

 

[XwolverineX]

Gangstahs plz, you were like, "You suck zenien!"

Blashemy!
















But you never know what you have 'till it's gone..

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Zenien, why are you such a jerk?

 

[Trigger]

So... Yeah, Snake is much better.

Quoted because it's the truth.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Snake really isn't. Stop being emotional.

 

[Trigger]

I'm being emotional?

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Yes. Sentiment.

 

[Trigger]

ORLY?