First-born kids really do have it tougher

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The stereotype of the responsible first-born and the reckless younger sibling seems to hold true, according to new research on parenting and birth order

There are two Jones brothers, Joshua and Justin. But when something breaks — like the time a soccer ball crashed through a garage window — it’s usually Joshua who gets the lecture: You’re the oldest, his parents remind him. You need to set an example. Your younger brother is watching.
Now, a new study has confirmed what first-borns like Joshua have always suspected: The oldest kid in the family really does bear the brunt of parental strictness, while the younger brothers and sisters generally coast on through.
“The folklore is that parents punish the older child more than the younger ones,” says Lingxin Hao, a sociology professor at Johns Hopkins University and an author of the study, published in the latest issue of the Economic Journal. “But it isn’t just folklore — this is a national pattern.”

First-borns who dropped out of school were 20 percent less likely to be getting most of their annual income from their parents than younger siblings in the same situation, Hao and her team found after reviewing annual surveys, involving more than 7,000 kids each year, conducted from 1979 to 1994 by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
In addition, the researchers found, first-born daughters who got pregnant as teenagers were 30 percent less likely to be getting most of their money from their parents than younger female siblings.

“Parents have an incentive to play tough with their kids, especially the older ones, to try to establish this signal to the other children that they’re not a pushover,” says Joseph Hotz, an economics professor at Duke University and a co-author of the study.
It’s all for the sake of setting an example, a refrain first-borns know all too well. By punishing the oldest kid more severely, Hotz says, parents are hoping to essentially scare the younger brothers and sisters straight, keeping them from making a similar mistake.
Parenting a perfectionist
“We did become stricter with Joshua after Justin was born,” says Ken Jones, father to the Jones boys — Joshua is 13, and Justin is 11. “I think I was a bit rougher on Joshua. He had to do things more perfectly.”
As the Jones family, who lives in Corona, Calif., has found, and the new research confirms, being a little tougher on the oldest kid in the family often turns out a kid like Joshua — the stereotypical rule-abiding, responsible first-born.
The study showed that older siblings were much less likely to drop out of school or, in the case of girls, get pregnant, than the youngest in the family, perhaps because they’ve had a lifetime of being held to higher standards.

That stricter parenting style often shapes the first-born kid into a play-by-the rules perfectionist, so parents tend to rely more on their oldest child than the younger kids, says Kevin Leman, a Tucson, Ariz., psychologist and author of “The Birth Order Book.”
“When a job needs to get done, it’s the habit of the parent to call on the first-born, because they’re the most reliable and conscientious,” Leman says. But it's no accident that the oldest has become a responsible wonder child; it's the parenting strategy that made them that way

That’s how Ed Newman, a first-born, describes himself as a kid. As a teenager in New Jersey in the ’60s, he would never consider breaking his 11 p.m. curfew. He even remembers ignoring a group of buddies who repeatedly rapped on his window one night, trying to get him to come out. “It just seemed … wrong,” says Newman, now 55 and living in Duluth, Minn.
Flash forward 30-odd years later, and Newman’s youngest brother, eight years his junior, hits him with this piece of information: Baby brother Robert didn’t even have a curfew growing up.
“I knew my parents had loosened up some, but I didn’t know they had loosened up completely!” says Newman.

This is the same brother, Newman adds, who once singed off his eyelashes and eyebrows after making an explosive that blew up in his face.
Younger siblings, the researchers found, really are more likely to take more risks than the oldest kid in the family. In the data Hao and her team reviewed, younger siblings were especially more likely to drop out of school — and get financial support from their parents.
When it comes to parenting the first-born, there’s always a set of younger eyes watching the parents’ every move. But with the youngest, nobody younger is watching the consequences play out, making it harder for parents to stick to all that “tough love” talk. For the youngest kids who get into trouble, “parents are more likely to go in and bail them out,” says Hotz.
'Exhaustion takes over'

By the time the second and third kids come around, many parents lighten up, and realize that they probably overreacted a little with setting rules for their first kid, Leman says. “The first-born’s a guinea pig; we practice on ‘em,” he says. “Once the other kids come in, we lighten up. Or exhaustion takes over.”

With her oldest daughter, Lisa Russell set down very specific rules about sweets and TV watching, and kept her little girl, Emily, to a strict schedule. Dinner was always at 6, bedtime always at 8.

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“When Emily was little, she was just always my perfect little robot who did everything I wanted her to do,” Russell says. “I thought, God, I must be really good at this.”
Fourteen years and four more kids later, dinner happens when it happens, and bedtime “isn’t so much of a time, it’s more like when a meltdown occurs,” says Russell, who lives in Yakima, Wash. Her five girls range in age from 5 months to 14 years.
“I don’t make an issue of things anymore,” Russell says. “You learn to choose your battles, and you learn what matters and what doesn't matter.”

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i find that so true being that i'm the oldest of 4 kids.
 
that's a big age gap. My brother is about 4 years older than me. I actually read a study that said parents spend more time, on average, with the the first born than the rest of the children. Maybe that extra time is being spent on at yelling at them. lol
 
Its weird me being the oldest (27)to having a little brother who's either 11 or 12 i think.

You don't know how old your little brother is?

Also, I'm the oldest and I'm also the favorite. :o
 
You don't know how old your little brother is?

Also, I'm the oldest and I'm also the favorite. :o
I don't live with him. and my little sister is one year older then him and i'm two years older then my other sister who's 25.
 
that's a big age gap. My brother is about 4 years older than me. I actually read a study that said parents spend more time, on average, with the the first born than the rest of the children. Maybe that extra time is being spent on at yelling at them. lol
well the first two are from my dad and years later she meant another guy and had those two other kids. Its like as i got out of school another went into school.
 
well the first two are from my dad and years later she meant another guy and had those two other kids. Its like as i got out of school another went into school.

oh, got it. yeah I kind of wish I had younger siblings to boss around, instead I was the one who was bossed around. :csad:
 
oh, got it. yeah I kind of wish I had younger siblings to boss around, instead I was the one who was bossed around. :csad:
I really didn't boss anyone around.. My older sister would never listen anyway. She's just attack me with things. One time she hit me with a Rubber Hammer.:csad:

Ouch!:cmad:
 
I find this totally true with my sister and me, I'm the oldest and much, much more responsible than my sister. However, in my extended family a few of the youngest turned out just as responsble as the oldest. I never noticed my sister getting more lax treatment than I did, especially since I made sure early on to get my parents to catch her in the act of rulebreaking after I was blamed a few times for a fight she started. Although, I always was one to not "test the waters" like she did.
 
True here, too. My brother is 21, and I am 31. He still has yet to get his driver's license, lives at home, and has only a mdiorce part-time job (which our mother has to drive him to and from.) He will be gettign his license soon, as our parents got him driver's ed classes for his 21st birthday. He is slowly improving, but his stil lightyears behind where I was at his age. Our parents just raised us different. I did not get my license until I was 18, but that was because I wasn't allowed to. My father felt I would be more mature, he was right. I purchased my first car and paid for my own insurance policy. He forced a large amount of knowledge upon me while I was growing up, but I have used every bit of it, and have a ton of respect for him and my mother for raising me the way they did. But, I would be lying if I said there wasn't at least some resentment over how they have raised my brother.
 
Well I get compared to Cyclops, so yeah, he is the responsible, older brother.
 
My parents are very lenient. Not tough. I'm the oldest and believe it or not the most responsible. But, u just have to find a way to work the system. Manipulation and giving and getting in return. Something younger siblings don't seem to learn. I'd say the only part that is more rough is the need for your parents to look up and respect you, kind of like Lex Luthor and Lionell but not as intense.
 
My little sister gets so much leeway. It's ridiculous. If my (30) brother or (19) I tried every possible drug out there, slept with 20 year olds, got several piercing and attempted to murder mom when we were 14, we would have been spanked (maybe even beaten), have everything taken away from us, grounded, then kicked out or given to out scary-religious-aunt. But all she gets is a seven day stay in a mental hospital, a new cell phone, **** loads of presents, and basically everything she asks for.
 
Im the youngest brother of 3 bros...I have a bro thats one year older than me(hes 18...i turn 17 tomorrow!)...He pretty much has it way tougher...I can honestly say he looks after me!
 
Excluding my step and half siblings (who I never lived with), I have one older brother. That's right. I'm the youngest. I'm also the one who didn't end up in prison, bought his own car, and knows how to hold down a job for more than a month. He didn't even graduate on time.
 
They do it have it a lot tougher. I'm 20, and my 15 year old sister gets away with murder :down
 
First borns are the leaders, hands down.

Now, why does it suck being first:

A. You're first. There was no one around to help you grow up. You faced an insurrmountable challenge from the start. I'm wouldn't surprised to learn that the suicide rate of first borns is not a great deal more than everyone else combined.

B. You're in a can't win situation. You'll never fit in, you'll never feel a normal part of society, and you'll never be a winner.

C. You're likely to be the victim of a hate crime. If you do one think remotely 'queer' or 'gay' you'll be scorched for it. Meanwhile, your younger sibling are breaking more sexual codes of conduct than any human should be allowed and getting away with it.

D. You have no rights and your opinion is null and void, unless you surrender to someone else and accept an early death. By surrender, I mean admitting that person is better and accepting their control over you. If you do that, you can be sure an early death.

E. If you're a firstie, basically you are screwed. You have the tougher challenge and you get the least help. You are going one-on-one with 'The Beast' and everyone else has abandoned you in fear. You can't run because 'The Beast' will kill you if you turn your back on it. The only way to save a first is to give them money and, like I said, everyone is afraid to give money to a first.

WELCOME TO MY HELL!!!
 
First borns get everything,second and after borns are either accidents or their parents wanted the opposite gender that they have. (Example,they got a boy when they wanted a girl or got a girl when they wanted a boy.)
 
First borns get everything,second and after borns are either accidents or their parents wanted the opposite gender that they have. (Example,they got a boy when they wanted a girl or got a girl when they wanted a boy.)

Actually, the first borns get everything because they want it. You have to realize that the first borns are facing the world from a very difficult perspective. They'll take whatever they can get their hands on, even their younger siblings lives. I don't think you realize the desperation a first born acts out of - they are competing against the parents who are twice their age and outnumber them 2 to 1 while the sibs compete with their own age group and pretty much sterr clear of parents and firsties. From the perspective of a firstie - the non firsties, even parents, are real gutless cowards. One great nig gang of gutless cowards is how I view mst of society.

In other words, a first born could walk in 99.9% of the non-firstborns shoes with ease. In fact, it'd be so easy that the first born would become bored and lacadaisical and drift off into something else that the person who's shoes they were filling would view as 'crazy' r 'dangerous.' A first born can solve 99.9% of most peoples problems and deal with 99.9% of most peoples lives. The problem is - 99.9% of people can't deal with first borns.
 
Im the oldest...I have 3 younger bros and 1 younger sis....geeze
 

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