Sequels For the love of god

[Excel]

1 thing people. superman made 400 million....not 200 million.

no movie studio only looks at domestic gross. the only they give a hoot bout is worldwide. ight?

 

[lujho]

The only thing they give a hoot about is the profit they make. And it's not like WB gets all of that 400 million. They get maybe half, and the cinemas get the rest. If WB made a profit from DVD and other revenue from this film, it's probably just barely.

 

[Billy Batson]

1 thing people. superman made 400 million....not 200 million.

no movie studio only looks at domestic gross. the only they give a hoot bout is worldwide. ight?

made that much despite (SR)!
The sequel will only gross half of what the first film grossed.
An all new SUPERMAN film that'll be a different story. Skies the limit with a re-do.

 

[Spiderine]

How did the DVD sales do?

 

[Motown Marvel]

The only thing they give a hoot about is the profit they make. And it's not like WB gets all of that 400 million. They get maybe half, and the cinemas get the rest. If WB made a profit from DVD and other revenue from this film, it's probably just barely.

actually, during the first 2 weeks of a film's showing, the production company gets over 70% of ticket sales. its only after those debut weeks, when tickets sales take a dramatic drop, that the theaters get a healthy percentage of ticket sales. so, WB took more than half of that 400 million.

How did the DVD sales do?

really well, if i remember correctly.

 

[memphissuperman]

A reboot???No thanks I like it how it is and where it is going thank you very much!

 

[dude stannis]

How did the DVD sales do?

I'm pretty sure it did $150 million in U.S. sales and rentals. Antonio Blueberry could give you a more accurate number than me.

 

[superbaby]

1 thing people. superman made 400 million....not 200 million.

no movie studio only looks at domestic gross. the only they give a hoot bout is worldwide. ight?

for the love of god... STOP DISCUSSING THE FIGURE ANYMORE !!!

 

[Billy Batson]

How did the DVD sales do?

$53,790,000

I'm pretty sure it did $150 million in U.S. sales and rentals. Antonio Blueberry could give you a more accurate number than me.

Not even close t:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/numbers.php

 

[blind_fury]

^^^ That's how much in made from dvd rentals, not dvd sales.

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

$53,790,000



Not even close t:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/numbers.php

Ummm...plus another $100 million in actual sales.

 

[matthooper]

1 thing people. superman made 400 million....not 200 million.

no movie studio only looks at domestic gross. the only they give a hoot bout is worldwide. ight?

What's your point? At face value, your post is a negative for the box office take. Only half goes to the studio and less than half in some overseas markets. The film cost $200 million to make plus a minimum of $50 million in advertising.

Spider-Man made $821 million worldwide. Don't boast about $400 million wordwide for a film that cost $250 to make and market. Meet the Fockers made $512 million worldwide, Signs made $408 million, Rush Hour 2 made $350 worldwide. Do you really think the studio was happy with $400 million for Superman?

Yes, it turned a profit. But why start a thread and try to boast about weak numbers?

 

[Motown Marvel]

Yes, it turned a profit. But why start a thread and try to boast about weak numbers?

because theres too many people here who are eager to say SR bombed, which is clearly not true, since it DID turn profit. it may not have performed to WB's expectations, but it didnt bomb or fail.

 

[Spiderine]

When they don't meet expectations, aren't they considered disappointments.

 

[matthooper]

because theres too many people here who are eager to say SR bombed, which is clearly not true, since it DID turn profit. it may not have performed to WB's expectations, but it didnt bomb or fail.

As far as blockbusters are concerned, it did bomb. Strictly going by box office numbers, you have $250 million in budget and marketing and a $400 million worldwide gross, in which only half goes to the studio so that's $200 million to the studio. By my numbers that's $50 million behind.

Again, yes, with DVD, toys and everything else, it did make money, but as far as box office as it relates to budget, it did bomb.

 

[fabman]

It didn't bomb. It wasn't as successful as many thought, it was a moderate hit and, to me, the numbers justify a sequel.

I think that without 'Pirates of the Caribbean' coming out two weeks later, 'Superman Returns' could've done way better.

 

[redcaped]

I believe more visual realism is needed, specially the moment when he leaves the ground.

 

[matthooper]

Yes, the word bomb is strong. Especially for a film that made $200 million domestic. However, again, only looking at box office and cost vs. reward, it bombed. You can't have a $250 plus million production/marketing that brings in $200 million in receipts which is what the studio got after the theater split. Simply put, as far as box office, they lost money, that's a fact.

If Spider-Man made $420 million more than Superman, how is Superman at least not considered a huge dissapointment? In the comic world you have two biggies, Spider-Man and Superman. It has nothing to do with whether you like the film or not. Loving the film doesn't mean you must defend it's box office. Why do the defenders feel some persoanl interest in defending the health of the box office? Are you waiting for a check or something?

 

[fabman]

Three biggies

Superman, Batman, Spider-Man... trust me, it's three

 

[WormyT]

Spiderman $821,708,551

 

[VenomsMom]

Yes, the word bomb is strong. Especially for a film that made $200 million domestic. However, again, only looking at box office and cost vs. reward, it bombed. You can't have a $250 plus million production/marketing that brings in $200 million in receipts which is what the studio got after the theater split. Simply put, as far as box office, they lost money, that's a fact.

If Spider-Man made $420 million more than Superman, how is Superman at least not considered a huge dissapointment? In the comic world you have two biggies, Spider-Man and Superman. It has nothing to do with whether you like the film or not. Loving the film doesn't mean you must defend it's box office. Why do the defenders feel some persoanl interest in defending the health of the box office? Are you waiting for a check or something?

It is a dissapointment, whether it made however much profit you want to argue or not. Warner was expecting much more than a whopping 200 million bucks domestically. They should have had a huge response domestically. I can not imagine that they were not looking at 300 million alone in domestic reciepts. People were expecting much more with Superman and did not get it. No one ever wants to compare this with the Spiderman francise but it has set a new standard. And everyone knows that the capabilities with Superman were enormous. Spiderman and Superman are both big icons and the numbers don't show that.

 

[redcaped]

Check closer.

 

[Lightning54SC]

Spiderman $821,708,551

WOW! now thats what im talking about,.... i wish the WB would just listen... then and only then would they get the picture and more money in their pockets...

 

[El Payaso]

WOW! now thats what im talking about,.... i wish the WB would just listen... then and only then would they get the picture and more money in their pockets...

Your concern about execs' pockets is laudable.

My concerns go more for the films' quality instead. Who cares for pieces of **** making good money for the suits?

 

[Motown Marvel]

also, why does everyone think WB only gets half of the box office take? where the hell did that come from? they get more than that.