Sequels For those who want a TOTAL Restart; choose your Cast and Director.

[Deadman666]

For people who want SR to mark the END of the Donner films, and for the next film to be a complete restart.....a new cast and director would be needed to diffreciate it from SR.

As much as I loved Brandon and Kate, none of the SR cast should continue IF a complete restart is ordered:

Therefore, who would you cast in the lead roles? Who would the director of this Superman restart be?

 

[Superman \S/]

I want the cast to come back, but maybe change the director as some have said. But if Singer comes back, i hope he deilvers a whole lot more.

 

[Amm-arD]

i think Singer did an amazing job, and he should deff stay for the 2nd and 3rd...

 

[Shawn_Short]

Basically, I want a story that focuses on, the first adventure of Superman. Not an origin story with an hour of Krypton/Smallville, but at the same time not an established Superman story. Think Batman 89 with better respect for the source material and actual time spent on the title character. And someone OTHER than Lex Luthor as the villian ala Batman Begins, a villian that carries the main story forward like Ra's. This could possibly be Braniac.

 

[Deadman666]

Ya I didnt ask you about your story for it; just ideal cast and director.

 

[Superman \S/]

^ I think it's ok. And as for director, i was only making a suggestion. Singer can come back for sure.

 

[Steelsheen]

a complete restart? then they're gonna go with the Smallville cast and crew. not my choice but its the most logical option.

 

[Superman \S/]

It is, if WB doesn't want the crew back. But i think there's a less chance Singer will come back. And that the cast will. But i hope Singer continues the franchise.

 

[Deadman666]

a complete restart? then they're gonna go with the Smallville cast and crew. not my choice but its the most logical option.

All Singer added was a child, and gave the film a more modern darker Marvel-esque look.

Smallville has changed....soooo friggen much, dont know where to even start. If you think the fans are nitpicking now, just imagine them reacting to a Smallville film. It would be brutal.

 

[Steelsheen]

^^ but the thing is dude, SV is such a hit because even the non-fans watch it, they couldnt care less if its not following canon. some are even using this argument as a case why SR isnt as big a hit as everyone expected it to be. so logically, if Big Studio wants to make sure that it makes good ROI this time around they're gonna give what the GP wants/ are used to, which is what they see on TV.

its a nasty reality but well... there it is.

 

[Excel]

**** restart, if you want origin theres always a chance for a prequel.

get michael bay to direct.

 

[Deadman666]

Well I'm a fan, not a financial planner... so obviously I care more about content and quality than ability to make as much money as possible.

I mean JJ Abram's 'Superman' and Tim Burton's 'Superman Lives' would have prolly done better BO than SR, but quality-wise ... cmon now. I'd be turned off from Superman forever.

 

[Frodo]

As far as the story goes it would be epic:

It would begin with the Krypton origin and feature characters such as Brainiac , and Zod . I wouldn't have Brainac responsible for the destruction of Krypton as he is in STAS. Zod and his clan would be sent to the PZ. Brainiac would appear to be destroyed in the destruction of the Planet.

The next part would be His years in Smallville . Johnathan and Martha would remain alive throughout the film .Lana and Pete would have a few scenes but nothing major. Clark would feel like an outsider and would want to be like everyone . After realizing his purpose after saving Smallville in a tornado. Before he leaves he would tell Lana the truth and she would let him go because she know's she can't share him with the world .

He would Journey across the Planet until he eventually reaches the FOS. Their he begins to bond with Jor El and Lara again through images .

Then would be his arrival in Metropolis. Clark Kent would be more like he was in the George Reeve series and L&C. He's a low key journalist who Lois dismisses. Clark comes to the Planet due to it's reputation and to get a chance to work with Lois Lane , who's work he's followed . At this point I'd have Lois in a bit of a slump in her career . She's considered something of a has been having had success early in her career but now lacking that one big story .

She underestimates Kent as a "hick" on their first meeting . But Kent gives back as good as she dishes out which kinda of surprises her. I wouldn't have their relationship be one sided like in the Reeve films. It would be more like SV and L&C. They are competitive with each other and bicker a bit . More like an old couple .

I'd have Superman save her at a LexCorp event . When Lois firsts meets Superman she's taken but at the same time she's wary of him. As a hardened Journalist , she's cynical . Surely he must have some angle ? He must be doing this for attention . I'd have her be afraid of falling for him, instead of just going head over heels. As Superman , Clark would see a vunerable side of Lois that she doesn't show to the rest of the world . This side of her appeals to him and he to begins to fear he's falling for her.

On the villian front , Lex would be the buisnessman of SV and STAS . He would be like the Donald Trump of Metropolis. He helped restore Metropolis where as before it had been a crime ridden city . He would be seen as a good man to the public but it is clear to those who do dealings with him he has a dark side . He and Lois would have had a past together . I'd leave it vague as to the extent of their relationship but it would be clear that she doesn't see him as a threat. When Superman arrives on the scene he see's him as a threat to mankind . John Corbon would be a criminal who's working for LexCorp. I'd have his origin similar to STAS.

Superman would battle Metallo throughout the the 3rd act of the film .His rampage through Metropolis would put the citizens of the city on the cross fire. He will have met his match considering the Kryptonite aspect. In the end Superman would realize that Luthor was behind it all . He would confront him much like in STAS and L&C, but without the proof there's nothing he can do.

By the end of the film Lois and Superman would be inlove but they wouldn't admit it to each other even though they both know it. But now Clark is left with the realization that she loves Superman and not Clark , and he now has an enemy bent on his destruction , and missing pieces of his heritage.

The last scene would feature Brainac traveling through space toward earth .

Phew. My fingers are tired .

 

[Deadman666]

Ya I didnt ask you about your story for it; just ideal cast and director.

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[ervann]

There are only a couple of things (albeit key functions) majorly wrong with SR - there's no need to overhaul the whole cast and crew.

1. Change the writers
2. Let go of Donner.

Singer is 50-50. I don't think he's the best person to do Superman but I don't know who is. Singer's just not an imaginative, a big action filmmaker for a character like Superman. If it's up to me it'll be James Cameron or Ridley Scott (but there's no chance of that).

 

[Frodo]

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Sorry

Well for Director i'd go with Speilberg

Jor El :Anthony Hopkins
Perry White : Rip Torn
Lex Luthor : Billy Zane
Brainac : The monk from ,Da Vinci Code . I always forget his name.

Lois and Clark I have no idea . It was hard enough to find Routh and Welling . I don't know who could play Lois .

 

[Shawn_Short]

Ya I didnt ask you about your story for it; just ideal cast and director.

Before I get started, I just wanted to tell you don't you dare mouth me like that again. Anyway, I think that some of the response in this thread is a sign that people have more off a problem with the one dimensional story than they do the cast, although I personally have issues with both. As for my ideal director and cast, Ill get back to you on that.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

supes: routh, maybe a few more bulk ups and a better suit and he's fine
lex: spacey if he can cut the hamming down. if not then maybe bruce willis? idk
lois: hard to say. has to have chemistry with routh in screentests. maybe bekinsale if she could kill the brit accent? michelle mongahan? (however you spell that)
jason: keep marsden around, but only as the new nephew in town, minus the history with lois and certainly no kid. it works to have another "good guy" love triangle
mercy graves: angelina jolie in a small roll ala sky captain
perry: ed harris or james woods
ma kent: eva saint marie is fine
jor-el: david strathairn? patrick stewart with a full head of hair?
lara:
john corben: i'm going against the grain and say pierce brosnan. him being a see it all mercenary would be awesome
dr hamilton: robert duvall
brainiac systems online: corey burton

produced by ridley scott, directed by james cameron all with a john williams score

 

[Deadman666]

Before I get started, I just wanted to tell you don't you dare mouth me like that again.

Hahahah plz

 

[Deadman666]

supes: routh, maybe a few more bulk ups and a better suit and he's fine
lex: spacey if he can cut the hamming down. if not then maybe bruce willis? idk
lois: hard to say. has to have chemistry with routh in screentests. maybe bekinsale if she could kill the brit accent? michelle mongahan? (however you spell that)
jason: keep marsden around, but only as the new nephew in town, minus the history with lois and certainly no kid. it works to have another "good guy" love triangle
mercy graves: angelina jolie in a small roll ala sky captain
perry: ed harris or james woods
ma kent: eva saint marie is fine
jor-el: david strathairn? patrick stewart with a full head of hair?
lara:
john corben: i'm going against the grain and say pierce brosnan. him being a see it all mercenary would be awesome
dr hamilton: robert duvall
brainiac systems online: corey burton

produced by ridley scott, directed by james cameron all with a john williams score

Thats the problem. If its a complete restart, you cant just pick and choose existing cast members and replacement ones. They have to be ALL NEW cast members.

It would be too confusing to audiences if Routh suddenly starred in a different interpretation of the same character. A complete restart requires a fresh cast....and that is the price to pay for a restart.

The Incredible Hulk (restart) lost Eric Bana too, which was unfortunate but neccessary for a total restart.

 

[Shawn_Short]

Hmmmm here I go..

Director: Steven Spielberg- The man has said he wants to do a comic book film as long as he has creative control. Why the WB gave an ass wipe like Bryan Singer creative control and didn't speed dial Spielberg is beyond me.

Writer: Spielberg and John Logan, with counseling by Jeph Loeb. I already stated what I wanted the story to be about. Bring in someone to help with the dialouge as well because the dialouge in Returns was atrocious.


Superman/Clark Kent: Honestly, I don't know who I would cast so I cannot sit here and choose a name from a list of actors. Should the role be unknown, yes. I would have to test people myself and find a damn good actor, unlike the cardboard cutouts known as Brandon Routh, Dean Cain, and Tom Welling.

Jor-El: ERIC BANA- first things first, don't give me any of that he was in the Hulk so he can't be Jor-El crap. Thats bullsh%t. It wasn't that role that made me want Bana for Jor-El anyway, it was his role in Troy. Watch Troy, watch the scene where Bana tells his father and the council not to attack the Greeks, his facial expressions, the way he delivers his lines, and then imagine that being Jor-El telling the Kryptonian council there world is doomed.

Lex Luthor: JASON ISAACS- yes, he can do an American accent, and quite well. Isaacs would be perfect in my opinion for the cold bastard that is corporate Lex Luthor. The guy you want to see get his neck broken in two by Superman because he such a heartless prick. Not the ham sandwhich that was Kevin Hackmans Lex Luthor.

Lois Lane: RACHEL McADAMS- All forehead jokes aside, and her forehead is huge by the way I agree, but the girl can flat out f%cking act and thats what I care about above all else. This girl could act circles around Kate Bonesworth. This choice would also please alot of folks around here from what Ive seen.

Perry White: CHRISTOPHER WALKEN - This was the only one of Brett Ratners casting choices that I agreed with, and that leads me to.....

Jimmy Olsen: ADAM BRODY- The Walken choice lead me to Brody. You see, there should be some comedical and funny moments in the film, and not at the expense of the main villian. Personally, I think it would be hilarious to watch Walken and Brody work off of each other and Perry and Jimmy.

Braniac- ERIC BANA/COREY BURTON- Ive always thought that as the Kryptonian A.I., that when in human form Braniac should take the form of the creator, in this case Jor-El. Bana can do a villian, and it would provide a nice dynamic for Superman to see his biologicals fathers face right before his eyes, Braniac could do some mind games with that. And in Robot form, there is only one guy for the job, and thats Corey Burton.

And then I come to the Kents. Honestly, I have no clue who I would choose, because the Smallville parents are perfect. Ill have to think about it and edit this post.

 

[Deadman666]

The smallville parents would be too young for the adult Superman. Your Eric Bana choice is interesting. I agree hes a good actor and could pull off almost any role.

I dont know if I like Walken but Adam Brody is perfect for Jimmy. However, I'm sure Adam was considered at some point by one of the directors of these projects....but obviously he can't do it due to the O.C. just like Hugh Laurie couldnt do Perry thanks to House.

McAdams is meh, too much like Kate. She can stick to her teeny bopper flicks. I'm sure you can think of someone better for Lois if its a complete restart, someone a total 180 to Kate.

Issacs would make a better Brainiac IMO.

Overall, interesting choices. Its nice that one or two of them were unique and not James Caviezel for everything.

 

[Deadman666]

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[Superman \S/]

Origin would have been ok, but putting the events of Superman II for SR was an ok idea as well. I just want to see alot more done in the sequel.

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[Shawn_Short]

The smallville parents would be too young for the adult Superman. Your Eric Bana choice is interesting. I agree hes a good actor and could pull off almost any role.

I dont know if I like Walken but Adam Brody is perfect for Jimmy. However, I'm sure Adam was considered at some point by one of the directors of these projects....but obviously he can't do it due to the O.C. just like Hugh Laurie couldnt do Perry thanks to House.

McAdams is meh, too much like Kate. She can stick to her teeny bopper flicks. I'm sure you can think of someone better for Lois if its a complete restart, someone a total 180 to Kate.

Issacs would make a better Brainiac IMO.

Overall, interesting choices. Its nice that one or two of them were unique and not James Caviezel for everything.

Your right, the Smallville parents are too young for an adult Superman. You could always age them with make up, but it would be easier to recast. You could also cast younger for baby Clark moments and again use age makeup. There are alot of big name actors perfect for the role of Johnathan Kent, the key would be landing them. Kevin Costner, Mel Gibson, Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford, and of them would make great Johnathan's, along with lesser knowns like Johnathan Frakes and Scott Bakula. And remember, they used make up on Glenn Ford in Donner's film, I just don't know if it was used to make him look older or younger.

IMO, Eric Bana is perfect for Jor-El, so I thank you for your comment. Again, to anyone needing proof of my belief in Bana as Jor-El, just watch Troy. Ive been sold on Bana ever since that movie. The council scene, when Hector was with his wife and baby son, all of that would be perfect for Jor-El.

I must agree with you about Jason Isaacs, he would make a better Braniac at the end of the day. But that would offset my idea of Jor-El/Braniac being played by the same actor. I believe that Isaacs would nail both Luthor and Braniac, and I want to see Isaacs in a Superman movie. I think Isaacs would bring a coldness to Lex that hasn't been seen in live action form.

Adam Brody would have time to make the movie, he would just have no time for anything else. The reason Hugh Laurie couldn't make it was because House had to shoot A.S.A.P. and Laurie had no time to get away.

I noticed you disagreed with me on McAdams and Walken. I understand why. Those were the two I had to think about, and I have other choices. From what I have read, McAdams would please alot of Superman fans, so that was my thought process behind her choice. And I selected Walken because I think he would be hilarious playing off not only Adam Brody as Jimmy, but with Lois and Clark as well. But again, I have other choices.

Alternative Choices:

Emily Blunt would make a good Lois Lane if she was a few years older. And I would consider Victor Garber for Perry White.